5.21.2025 -- NLS -- Jefferson Ambulance Vote, Jake Tapper's Turnaround

On this episode with Neal and Julie, the show dives into the unexpected local drama surrounding the Jefferson County ambulance district vote. Neal admits it's the first time an ambulance district has ever taken center stage on the show, and both hosts unpack the confusion about whether the measure required a simple majority or two-thirds vote to pass. Despite a 63% “yes” vote, questions remain about legal thresholds, misinformation, and what comes next—especially since the messaging during the campaign may have misled voters about what's legally required.

They also discuss the broader issue of supermajority requirements in Idaho elections, especially for things like school bonds and levies, with mixed feelings on whether 50% + 1 should always be enough when taxes and long-term funding are at stake.

Shifting to national topics, Neal and Julie dissect CNN anchor Jake Tapper’s recent media tour and his attempt to reshape his legacy as a tough journalist critical of the Biden White House. Julie is skeptical, pointing out that many media figures seemed to ignore Joe Biden's cognitive decline for years. Neal notes the irony of Tapper now profiting from that narrative with a book.

The episode wraps with thoughts on media hypocrisy, audience reactions on shows like The View, and more light-hearted commentary on everything from high school rebuilds in Shelley to why CNN’s reporting habits are raising eyebrows.

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Transcript

You want to show us? Good morning. It's 807 on Newstalk 1079. Welcome. It's Wednesday and it's good to have you along today. If you'd like to reach us via text on the Stones Automotive Group, call and text line at numbers (208) 542-1079. Well, welcome. We don't have clarity. By the way, I want to say this is one of the most puzzling, issues that we've had in in a little while.

And we, we've never, ever had an ambulance district story be, well, at least this prominent, but I'm going to tell you our timeline and and what what's happened? We we had heard rumblings about this Jefferson County. They've been paying Idaho Falls to provide them with the higher level trauma ambulance service. And when things get tight and and it's been very cooperative and it's worked out.

But as Jefferson County has grown, they felt that there's a need to expand and have their own ambulance service. Fair enough. Very defensible. And, no, no problem with it. So we brought in, a couple of the proponents for it. And in talking with them, their belief and position stated at least, was that it required a two thirds threshold to get passed.

And we didn't take any issue with that. They're the experts. They're the proponents. And I know this may come as a big surprise, but Julie and I don't spend a lot of time studying in depth the finer points of the requirements for creation of ambulance districts. I know, color me, you know, derelict in my duty here, but, we we trusted them.

But we had a caller later that day say this only requires 50%. She was against it. And we told her because we had just talked to the proponents. And I think it's two thirds. That's what they told us. And Julie reached out to Representative Rod Furness via text because he's elected. He lives in Jefferson County. He's in the know.

And indeed, he texted back and said, no, it's going to take two thirds to get this done. So flash forward to yesterday. The the vote is held and it gets a pretty healthy vote I think 63 ish percent, something like that. But it didn't meet the two thirds. It didn't get to 66 and 6666 didn't get to all of that.

And so it fell short of two thirds, but easily crossed the 50 plus one threshold. And it's now being widely reported that it passed. So we're like, well, it may be in the secretary of state software. Anything that gets above 50% turns green and therefore it gives the impression that it passed. But we have it on good authority from people in the know that it required, two thirds.

So enter ChatGPT stage left. And I just asked ChatGPT I said in Idaho to create an ambulance district. Is it is it 50% or is it two thirds? It was very clear. It's 50% according to Idaho state law. Okay. And then I'm like, okay, what do you know about the Jefferson, vote? And it gave accurate results for that.

I copied and pasted the ballot questions into ChatGPT and said, based on this ballot question and your knowledge of Idaho law, would this require 50% and a vote, or would it require two thirds? The answer 50% and a vote. So here's the problem. And you might say very simply, especially if you like, if you want the ambulance district, you're like, what's the big deal?

It's 50%. It met the threshold. The the problem that's going to happen here. And this is what we've got to find out, is if the leading proponents and voices were telling everyone, this requires a two thirds vote, but it only required a 50% vote. That is, a significant piece of misinformation may not have been deliberate or on purpose.

It might have just been an innocent, simple misunderstanding. So I'm not throwing any motive on anyone. But if the messaging for the election was filled with that big of a piece of misinformation, it changes voting turnout patterns. It changes people's calculus in in what to do, where to go, and how to vote. In other words, if that misinformation is out there and it is prompting more people to go out and vote for it, and potentially suppressing people or making complacent the people against it, then you might have, an issue.

So again, I, we take no sides here other than the truth. That's, that's the side we're on. I think it's a very defensible proposition to, have an ambulance district. And in Jefferson County, I don't believe I don't live there, and I don't have a horse in this. In this fight. But if I did live there just thinking through it, I probably would voted for it because I thought, yeah, lots of growth, lots of people we want them to have, is, as you know, reliable trauma, EMS response, all of that.

I probably would have voted for it, but I can't get on board if there was a significant piece of misinformation that was part of the effort to pass it. Now, again, I'm no attorney here, and I but if you are against it, and this had been going on, you might have a case where that could be made. And I don't know if the opponents are organized enough to even bring any kind of a case where they say, look, this messaging was out there, that it was two thirds.

You had a sitting member of the legislature saying that it was you had the proponents saying that it was two thirds. And if it in fact, it turns out only to be 50%, I think they may have a problem on their hands. So again, we're we're trying to get clarification. And, and, I'm, I'm hoping and furthermore, this is the sort of the real day to day on the ground problem is just it's more kind of this distrust.

Like what? What can you believe? And, if it turns out that it really was only 50% all along, and, and it the thought was out there that it was, was two thirds. So hopefully we'll be getting some clarity at some points in, in time. Norm died from cheers. George Wendt was, I believe, 76 and passed away.

Everybody loved Joe. In fact, we can all hear in our mind, Norm, as he walked into the cheers bar. And so, condolences to is his family. We also had a member of Congress that passed away. Speaking of obituaries, George Connolly has had cancer, represented a Democrat district in Virginia, and, he's passed away. We asked Senator Crapo about that this morning.

I don't know how much this is gonna impact the votes on the big, beautiful bill and all of that. I would imagine they're going to work pretty quickly in Virginia to get that now vacated seat, filled. So I don't know how much of a speed bump this will be politically for the Democrats or even, for for the Republicans, for that matter.

But, we'll we'll wait and see. But we do have lots of great audio. Jake Tapper, of course, is on his book tour right now and talking with pretty much every major podcast that he can. He was on with Katie Couric, he was on with Meghan Kelly and it was, it's an interesting line that he's taking because Jake Tapper there are kind of conflicting or at least dueling versions of Jake Tapper and right now he's trying to convince us that he is Jake Tapper, the truth teller.

But in order to make the version of Jake Tapper the truth teller convincing, he has to not fully tell the truth. Which is he boiled Joe Biden's cognitive challenges down to a stutter and torched Lara Trump because she was pointing out the cognitive decline. And Jake Tapper participated in the Democrat narrative that she was making fun of his stutter.

And nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, Jake Tapper apologized to Lara Trump because he owed her an apology, but he seemed to be, well, how do you how do you say how do you say, oh, I don't know. I don't know if I'd say a willing participant, but he wasn't unwilling to scrutinize her of the Biden White House.

And is there much difference between a willing participant and an unwilling scrutinizing of the of the white House? Because I'm going to tell you. And keep in mind, I live here in little old East Idaho, and I just watch the news like everyone else, and I take in as much as I can. Because even with skewed lenses, if you take in more, more information and as much as possible, I think you get closer to an approximation of the truth.

And I'm going to tell you, I had concerns on day one, and I began to have deep concerns a few months into his presidency, Joe Biden, I saw it, you saw it, we all saw it. But Jake Tapper was willing to be an unpaid, willing scrutinizing of the white House. He sort of let the let the narrative go largely unchecked.

And at times he seemed to support the narrative. And because of Orange Man bad because of that, he he joined in the two minutes of hate and rage against Lara Trump when she was pointing out the cognitive decline. Now you go through all the times, and I hate to bring this up. You're all going to get twitchy when I when I say what I'm about to say, because we all lived that day to day lie.

That saga, that whole four years of just being lied to day in and day out of move along. There's nothing to see here. And do you remember from the Iraq war? Do you remember Baghdad, Bob? Baghdad, Bob and I think maybe Baghdad Bob was nicknamed that by none other than Rush Limbaugh, or at least made more popular by Rush and Baghdad.

Bob was the guy that would go out and essentially lie for Saddam Hussein. And he he would just tell the biggest whoppers you can imagine, because Saddam Hussein had told him what to say. And I feel like Karine, Jean-Pierre. And for a little while it was peppermint Patty. And and she was the paid liar for the Biden White House.

But now I feel like Karine Jean-Pierre was the Baghdad bob of the Biden White House, that she would tell whoppers straight to your face just to uphold the narrative that Joe's fine. This these are cheap fakes, these videos that you're watching. But they never defined what a cheap fake one. Did anybody ever define what a cheap fake was?

It was just this vague term that was supposed to leave an impression that this video isn't real, what you're watching. But there was no contradictory video, even though there was abundant video. He's the president of the United States. Cameras are everywhere when the president goes out in public. So if you wanted to refute it, you could have refuted it, but you didn't.

You just said the videos that were making, going viral were cheap fakes, whatever, whatever that was. That was a very Baghdad Bobby. And move on the part of them. So now Jake Tapper is out there saying, look, I got a few years left in my career and I want to leave a legacy that I'm a great journalist.

I already kind of have it. And you have people who are saying that I'm a great journalist, and I don't want that to to be, you know, I don't I'm not going to go down with the Biden's okay narrative. Titanic. And so he is this is his life raft, this book that he's writing, this this exposé, which no doubt would be interesting, but I will not spend money on this because.

Jake Tapper so I will tell you some somebody out there who is going to spend money on this, maybe lend me the book. I just don't want Jake Tapper to get money because for years he was a participant in this, and now he's trying to cash in, in the narrative that he is suddenly a scrutinizing of the Biden White House.

It's and I look it's well play this book is getting a lot of attention. And even though Megan Kelly brought him on and blasted him, I've got the audio here momentarily. She is going to end up selling books for Jake. I mean, there's just no way around it, but I think you do have to bring him on if you have that opportunity.

And here's how that went over here in my ecosphere. We were covering all of these. It wasn't just falling down, it was getting lost. It was some of the stuff you report in your book. We knew and we were reporting on, like the multiple jump cuts in the, videos of him, or it was obvious he couldn't get through a one minute take.

It was clear to us that he was using teleprompter and and there was some reporting on that at the time. All of which the white House was denying. Now, the current white House, I have some connections with the Joe Biden White House. I had none, but you did. There was an attempted cover up. It could only ever work if you allowed it, if the press allowed it.

Some of us tried not to, and some of us were complicit. The Biden White House did not like me. Okay. This is I do not have great connections with the Biden White House. Well, clearly, as you know, the sources say you talked to over 200 sources for this book. This is after the one I could have called and worked.

Yeah, that's the point, is that they were not being honest. That's the point. This will get it in June of 2024. And Jake Tapper and CNN couldn't find sources for this story. Then before he dropped out, Annie Lynskey and Siobhan Hughes did an amazing job in their reporting and and they should be heralded. And I heralded them. I had them on my show right after the debate to talk about their great reporting, but any links can be made.

But you did not put them on when they published that story, which was before the debate, correct? I don't know what the booking situation was, but it wasn't because I didn't want them. I'm sure I said, well, okay, let's book. I'm sure I said, let's book that. Did they? Yeah. You. Yeah. You put on a Democrat and you allowed the Democrat to move forward as a Rupert Murdoch, sponsored hit piece.

No, no, no, it's just that if we're going to if we're going to do this, let's just stick to the facts here, okay? When there is a damaging report. That's what I've been doing all along. I'm talking about what you just said is the biggest story of the century when it comes to presidential politics. And one of us did boom mic drop right at the end, one on one.

Megan Kelly, Jake Tapper saying, one of us missed the biggest. One of us didn't miss the biggest story in American politics, and one of us did. And she is exactly right. And I don't know how if you're in Washington and you're truly a journalist and you want to find out the truth, how you get mad at Lara Trump for pointing out the truth and the obvious.

And you might disagree with the take, but she's it's very defensible. What Lara Trump was pointing out. And then you had Jake Tapper. Reducing that to a the fact that Joe Biden had a stutter and that's all this is that she was making fun of his stutter, and it's clear she wasn't. That's the that's the part that is so interesting to me.

What what is the truth? What what is the truth? That's what you try to find out, even if it's uncomfortable, even if it's going to bring you all sorts of social media hate and backlash. Your job, Jake, if you're going to be where you're at, is to find the truth, no matter how uncomfortable it may be. And now I find it fascinating that Jake wants to sell books so he will go through discomfort.

It is possible for him to go through discomfort, but only if it's going to end up selling him a book. Why wasn't he willing to face that discomfort three and four years ago? Good question. We'll be back. It's 826 on Newstalk 179. Lots of levees throughout the region yesterday. Most of them passed, and we're still seeking to get to the bottom of the ambush district.

Truth here. Try to figure that out. It's all coming up on Newstalk 179. All right. 831 on Newstalk 107 and Neil Larsen along with Julie Mason. And you, if you'd like to reach us the number to call two. 085421079. And the place to go if you want your lawn to be super lush and green, is town and country gardens, grab the four step lawn program while you're there.

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I have a question. Speaking of tomatoes, because I was I was cleaning my office last night and on my computer it said Frost warning. So I clicked on it and it said that you could reach the low 30s. So again, and I've, I've done this like four times in the last week and a half. I've gone out, got a couple of old sheets that I just throw over the top of my, tomatoes.

And then on my drive in to work this morning, it's 41 degrees. So the forecasting in some ways is getting very, very good. And I hope Michael Coach is listening because I can say, what is the weather going to be on Oak Street in Rigby in three and a half weeks at 2 p.m. and they'll say, well, you're going to get a quarter inch of rain and the barometric pressure.

He's just rolled his eyes at you. Okay, I might not be quite that, but they've gotten really good at that. But, I guess my question is frost warnings, but it's 41 degrees when I drive to work at at, 4:45 a.m., don't you think? They just probably on the side of caution when it comes to frost, but that might be that there's going to be frost anywhere within a certain radius.

They just tell everybody there's a frost warning. And I think that the temperature variability can be dramatic with elevation change. So if you have foothills that are 1000ft higher, it may be it did freeze it in that. So I'm one of the peasants in the valley. So I don't you know I'm, I'm different. Then I'll take my less windy peasant in the valley home.

Yes I yes I will. And, and not freezing in late May. Yes. Too. So, but but no, I'm not. Again, people think I throw shade at Michael Coats and I don't. It's just it's just fun. But I actually it's a way of learning more about how weather works. That's how I look at it. It good.

So, anyway, Julia, someone texted in. We can't read the entire text. We have a little tech issue with a couple of numbers. We can't see the whole text. We're not sure why. It seems like they were taking issue with my comments on the ambulance district. That if the narrative put forward by proponents was, you need two thirds when you only need 50%, are they saying it's not a big deal, that that's okay, that it's okay to have that that piece of information out there?

That's not true. I mean, what what is the argument here? Hey, maybe I when we were talking about this earlier, I kind of had like this thought dancing in the back of my head, which was October surprises. And obviously this is an October it's me or whatever. Yeah, but think about the concept. Lots of times, informational drops somewhere near October before a presidential race that will potentially alter the race.

It doesn't mean it needs to be true or accurate. Sometimes the the information was known for months, but kept secret and then dropped in October. That's the nature of an October surprise. It's meant to change the election. Yeah, maybe that's the way this person views this. Like we deal with October surprises. Who cares if the information was wrong?

You either voted for, you didn't vote for an end of story. Well, true I look I that's not my position but that might be you're. Yes I'm just saying what they might be thinking like eight. Well yeah I get what you're saying. And I think if you have external proponents that aren't directly involved in the promotion or opposition and they're, you know, because you're right, we do see October surprises, but usually not about a technical requirement involved with the election.

It's definitely not apples. Oranges. Yeah. I mean if it or it is apples oranges. Yeah. Yeah. So I but again we, we aren't able to read the entire text and, and I'll say this, even if it's, even if it is a 50% requirement. And they were saying it's two thirds. I think a judge is very unlikely to overturn the outcome of a, of an election based on that, I don't I would agree and that I a case might be able to be brought it's possible though.

I mean the Secretary of State when elections get certified, I don't know under what circumstances the Secretary of state can say, I'm not going to certify this election. And I don't know if this could be a reason where he would say, I'm not going to certify the election. So I don't know what the pathway looks like from here.

I just know when the people vote and something passes or fails, it has to be a very, very high threshold for that to be overturned. Right. But I will say from a process standpoint, moving forward, we shouldn't still be wondering the day after the election's over, did it pass or not, based on the information we got from the the different sides in this?

That's my I guess that's my point here, is that we did have proponents. You had broad fairness saying, oh no, it's two thirds, but now it's being widely reported. It passed and it didn't meet the two thirds threshold. It's we've had people texting and say, I heard it passed like so. This is not something we're we're creating. No, we're, we're we're as confused as everyone else.

We're in the same boat. We've we've gone to various Facebook accounts trying to see if somebody is celebrating the passage of it or mourning the failure of it can't. There's nothing out there on any of those that we went to. I have sent texts. I haven't got responses, so I'm a little unclear about where this all stand. I, I am to be cut and I will tell you this because it was our media outlet in interviewing the proponents of this that was letting people believe that it was two thirds.

I, I'm deeply invested in, in correcting the record here because, I mean, I'm sure if they were saying it here, they were saying it in their meetings, in their town halls and everything else. So, yeah, I don't I we just want clarity. That's all we want. We're we don't have a dog in this fight. Julie, I think I can't speak for what your hypothetical vote is.

Your hypothetical vote is belongs to you, and it's sacred. I'll say I would have voted for it. Yeah. And as as I would have to, probably. I would have probably been among that 63% because it is growing. And I if I had an accident or my family or my friends, I want to have trauma EMS there as soon as possible.

And I think that's a reasonable expectation of the community, and I'd be willing to pay a little bit more to have that in my community. So I, I would have voted for it. But I understand the opponents to they're like, well, we don't like how this is going to employ new commissioners. And I get the opposition to this.

Our interest is not pushing it one way or the other. Our interest has always been the the truth. And that's we just want people to have good information when they go to the polls. Yes, yes, that's that's the hope. And that's one of the reasons we held the interview is because it's kind of been a hotly contested. Yeah, you know, race up until Tuesday.

So it was worth looking into even though it only affected one county in our listening area. Okay. Somebody just texted in said officer Mike Miller, who's an officer, also works for the Central Fire District in Jefferson County. Is celebrating that it passed. So, okay. We we need an explanation. That's all I'm saying. We're not going to try to alter the outcome of this, but I do.

I don't think the outcome can be altered. Yeah, I don't either. Yeah. So that's not the point. It's just to clear everything up. Yeah, that's not the point, Paul. Okay. Thanks.

Laura. Is that. Yeah. Let me say it a little more. That's not the point, Paul. And you have to like tap to table when you do that. That's not the point. You reach the handout and condescendingly tap the table right in front of the person. That's not the point, Paul. We've got to create. That's not the point. Paul.

Merch like Felicia shirts and hats and coffee mugs. We really should. That's not the point. Do we spray? I saw that audio somewhere. Don't we? Probably do. Yeah. Okay. What do you make of the Jake Tapper stuff? I think he. I think he sold his soul for a dollar in more ways than one. Not just with the book.

I think he has before. I think you should absolutely apologize to, Laura Trump. I think that, he should actually apologize to his viewers. He has the ability to hold a monologue. I don't know what he does on a regular basis. If he does do a monologue each time he's on air, I have no idea. Yeah, maybe he does.

But, he has that ability. He can set aside a four minute segment and say, I appreciate you being willing to buy my book. I know I've been hawking it like crazy on here. Hey, hey, he got made fun of by, Stewart. What's his first name? Comedian. Yeah. Yeah, we know who you're talking about.

Yes. John. John. Jon Stewart. Yeah. Because he Jon Stewart repeatedly played all the different times he was hawking his book before it came out. So he can say, look, I appreciate that you've allowed me to try to sell my book on here, but I think I owe you an apology, and I owe you an apology because I should have been better.

And. Yeah, okay, would go a long way. It okay. Yeah. He didn't actually say that it was. No, no, no, I think it would go a long way if he did it. If he did. Yeah. Yeah. He hasn't done that. Yeah. It's been these kind of veiled. Well I, I was trying I know you weren't trying. Well I think the one clip you may have heard a different clip.

The one clip I heard, he said I think the criticisms have some validity. Yeah. See how vague that is. Yeah, but but what? You're talking about them. Talk about yourself, Jake. Don't don't say I think their criticisms have some validity. Have some courage and say I was wrong. I should have been more scrutinizing. I should have asked more questions.

I shouldn't have just fallen in and trusted carte blanche what the white House was telling us. Well, in his excuse to Megan Kelly that he didn't have a good relationship with the Biden White House, whatever you're you, your tagline is we are CNN, right? Yeah, sure you are. Are you not? Do you really have that power? Because if you do, you could have figured this out.

Well, I the issue is Lara Trump. Lara Trump had no connections inside the white House and she could see Joe Biden's dementia. She was part of the enemy circle. You you didn't need to have good, good tentacles inside the Biden White House to see that Joe Biden's cognitive abilities were failing. Yeah. So that that's sort of a that's an artificial threshold that they're kind of creating.

Everyone saw it. I, I don't think I know a single person who was inside the Biden White House. I saw his cognitive decline. It was obvious. Well, it it's not even that you needed to look at Biden himself. You just need to look at behavior patterns. If he stopped holding meetings, there's a reason he's not holding meetings. Well, yeah, we interviewed Senator Crapo today, and he said after year one, I couldn't get a meeting with him for anything.

Senator Crapo chairs I had at some points has chaired one of the most powerful committees in the federal government. Yeah. And he couldn't get an he couldn't get a meeting with the president of the United States. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I don't yes. This was not a case of telephone. We talked to Senator Crapo this morning right from his mouth.

And and he had one meeting, got a deal at least verbally agreed upon deal from Joe Biden. And then a few days later, staff reached out to crypto and said no, the president misunderstood. We don't have a deal. And then he didn't get another meeting with Biden after that. It was it was very, very insular and hands off.

Explain that. So you don't even have to go off of the stutter. Right. That would that's what Jake Tapper was trying to use to cover for what was going on. Okay, don't even play the idea of Biden if he's not giving people meetings. There's a reason. Yeah, right. If he's not holding cabinet meetings, there's a reason. Yeah. If they're calling a lid at 9:00, multiple times a week, there's a reason.

None of those have to do with a stutter. Yeah, yeah. You're. Yeah, it is a I lost. Well, I have a ton of respect for Jake Tapper, but what I did have was lost in that moment. Like you, there's so much more than a stutter going on, Jake, and you know it. You're smart enough. You know this. Yeah.

So don't don't reduce it to that. Right. So but I, I, I'm not buying the book, but I probably would read the book if somebody I think I would probably read the book too. But I'm not going to give him the no. The, the like the glory of another purchase. Maybe in a year or two I'll check it out.

It'll be at the die. That's true. That's someone. I'll drop it off there. Lots of copies at the at the D. So, someone else said I believe they covered up his cancer. Also in February 2024, they said he was fit for duty after his medical exam. There's no way that type of cancer was just discovered, especially since he has the best medical exams in the world.

We asked Senator Crapo about that too, and Senator Crapo has had and this is not revealing anything. He's been very public about his bouts with prostate cancer and has even I don't know if it's passed laws or resolutions, but he's worked hard to raise prostate cancer awareness and so he knows a lot about it. After going through it himself.

And he said there's no way they didn't know that. This is not the stage that Joe Biden's in right now. Doesn't happen suddenly. This has been in the works for probably years. And and when you're right, in February of 2024, just over a year ago, they said, oh, he's he's physically fit for duty. Maybe they deliberately didn't do the PSA test so they could say that just to avoid it, which would not be protocol.

Yeah, I promise I am not a physician and that is just basic common knowledge. A man of his age at the power level that he's had would have had a PSA test, PSA test, no questions asked. Yeah, yeah. No, I bet you in fact, I'll log in to my medical dashboard thing because my blood results are there. I bet I've had a PSA test.

I'm sure you have. I'm sure you have. And I'm 52.

Yeah. So people are saying they, believe I was told the ambulance district formation margin changed in 2021 to a simple majority. I was under the impression the motion passed. We've gotten a few texts like that, so it seems like people think it passed. Okay. I don't mean, but again, the conflict, conflicting information continues. Let's go back to the phones.

Hi, caller. How are you today? Is this me? Yes. It's you. Go ahead. I was just calling, about the Biden story. I don't know if you know, but they have clips out there. Were Biden made it in his speech that he had cancer back in 2022. Yes, I have it. And, I'll play. I think they have, I think they purposely did that.

They don't want to lose your power. And I don't even think Biden was getting treated. That's why it metastasized so fast. Yeah, but that's all I wanted to say. Thanks, man. All right. Thank you for the call. This is Joe Biden back in 2022. So three years ago, it was a four lane highway that was accessible. My mother drove us and rather than us be able to walk and guess what?

The first frost, you know what was happening. You had to put on your windshield wipers to get literally the oil slick off the window. That's why I had so damn many other people. I grew up, I have cancer and why can't? For the longest time, Delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation. Okay, I remember this clip.

It it made a little blip in the news but it was in the midst it was one drop in an ocean of gaffs that we were having with Joe Biden. So it never really got any traction. But I remember that. And just tossing it away like, like like he, you know, sometimes he was rubbing corn pops, leg hair on an Amtrak train ride to Scranton, you know, like he would take these fragments of things and he'd cobble them together in these memories that weren't real.

So I think it was easy for easy to dismiss this saying he just heard about somebody having cancer and now he's saying he has cancer. I think maybe he was telling the truth and saying the quiet part out loud back then. He absolutely could have been or could have been the other way. Both of them should have been warning signs, red flags that he needed to be investigated of whether or not he should have been president.

Yeah. Either way, there's not a good answer to this. No there's not. Yeah, there's not a good oh, that's what he meant there because we had multiple gaffes where he couldn't remember how Beau died. He turned his kitchen fire into something bigger than it was, like people were almost dying in it. That's not what the kitchen fire was.

He talked about how he drove a big rig. He's never driven a big rig. He talked about all these miles that he spent on a train. They proved that that didn't happen like we were. When you say it was a C, it was a literal C. Yes. And so we just threw it in there. But that cumulative C of gaffes should have made us, should have made people like Jake Jake Tapper start looking.

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. They should have. Somebody did properly point out Diet Biden didn't even stutter in that clip. So yeah. Well we we'll be back. We may disagree on a Jefferson County Ambulance district or a marsh Valley school levy, or Joe Biden's dementia or Donald Trump's effectiveness. But one thing we can all agree on, Julie, is that steaks from Grand Peak's prime means are dealing cious high quality beef.

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And we got another hour coming up. We hope you'll join us for that. We'll be back after the news.

We're back at 907 on Newstalk 107. Hi, Neil Larson and Julie Mason on a Wednesday. And if you'd like to reach us, the numbers (208) 542-1079. Talking about a lot and I know there's well 63% Julie voted against the bond they needed. They were 30 points shy. Julie. They needed 67%. They only got 37% voting for the Shelley High School.

So that is clearly back to the drawing board. We had a text earlier. I want to ask you this question. Okay. Somebody said there should be no Supermajorities required that in Idaho it ought to be 50% and a vote for every single election. Everywhere. About every single issue. Do you agree with that? I don't think I agree with that, but we've given a lot of conversation to the school bonds and levies and the fact that they have to get a separate supermajority and how hard it is.

I support lowering it, but I also don't know if you lower it clear to 50%. I, I feel like there are certain things that need to reach that threshold and certain things that don't. And I don't know if an all across the board 50 plus one is valuable to Idaho. You got to think of the ramifications of what that could mean.

Yeah. Let's say let's say you did 50 plus one on ranked choice voting. Yeah. There would have been ramifications there. Like, you got to think about all of the 50 plus one possibilities that could exist. That one was 50 plus. That one was 50 plus one. Yeah. The only ones that require a supermajority vote are when you bond for like 30 years, like when you're building infrastructure, you're going to build a school, you're going to do something like that because you are in setting future society for your singular decision in that moment.

And so if you're going to do that, you better have a lot of people in on it. That's funny because we in debt our future society for abs, our congressmen do. You're you're right all the time. Yeah. I don't I do I don't know, 50 plus one is really low. It is low for me I, I am I'm fine with the super majority.

I do think there's a discussion to be had of maybe shifting it from 67 down to to 60. I that's that that might be a discussion worth having, but, I, I don't think that this is, What what is it, the, the the two wolves and a sheep voting to, to see what they want to have for dinner.

Right. In in a sense, when you are taxing your neighbors for decades into the future, I don't know if I like a 50 plus one threshold. So I but it's not a hostile push back to the person. I, we just have it sort of baked into our DNA majority rules. And I think it's easy to take that singular idea, which can be very viral and apply it everywhere.

I think people have this idea when we talk about the and we could talk about the anomalies where that rule doesn't apply, it doesn't apply in school bonds. It also doesn't apply in presidential elections. You have a different set of standards because the stakes are different or the relationship with the the outcome is different. And we don't always apply 50 plus one is though.

That's the gospel. Yeah. And and so I, I'm okay with it being higher and. Yeah. I think it, I think it's a valuable argument to have. I don't know if you drop it as low as 50 plus one. Yeah, yeah, but it could be moved. Let's go to the phones. Caller. How are you today? Good. How you doing?

Good, good. I disagree with the texture on wanting to reduce the supermajority. I mean, you look at the amount of taxation on $100,000. If you live and Shelley at that bank let it pass. Some people would be facing a $2,000 a year tax increase. Yeah. Yeah. You're you're not you're not wrong. Yeah I think that the they just need to leave it alone.

And maybe it would be an interesting topic for a flash poll to see how people feel. Yeah. Well I will tell you, I know how that would turn out because I think much of our, our audience, they're more skeptical of bond elections and they would not want to reduce that, that amount. Yeah. So well, I think district 91 is another example of how people are just.

And then those taxation. Yeah you do. You have a great day and thank you for your program. Well thank you for the call I appreciate it. I want to make another point too, with all of this, all elections involving people, especially two people, it's a little different, but it's 50 plus one. You get to change that every two years.

If it's the legislature in Idaho, if it's the governor, it's every four years. If you, if you pass, a levy, for instance, levies are 50 plus one because you get to go back in two years and decide, do we continue the levy, do we increase it? Do we decrease it? You get to have a say in two years, but when you pass a bond, there is no revisiting that once it's passed, it sets a 30 year ball in motion, a ball of debt in motion, and you don't get to go back and rescind that, change it, tweak it, whatever.

And so I, I that's another argument for why we do have a higher threshold for long term bonding issues. There's also a part of school bonds that me like me as a voter. Yeah, I didn't get to decide the plans that were going to be used for the new high school. I didn't get to. I did get to sign off on the sometimes very glorified classrooms and gymnasium and everything.

Yeah, but you want the money, right? Yeah. And and so I think that that is one of the hard parts for these voters. I'm guessing that was one of the big deal with all of this. And Shelly is they were looking at that price tag and going, it doesn't need to be that high. Yeah. Right. Well I don't when did they build the school in Shelly in the high school.

Because I remember this. Because I used to go and hang with my cousins in Shelly for a couple weeks every summer. So I got to know Shelly really well. And, the high school, of course, used to be in town, kind of on the east side of it, on the other side of the highway and and back in the neighborhoods there.

Great, great. Low, high school. But they upgraded that to what some now call a potato seller because it's a bad seller. It's a very, you know, pretty basic but functional design. But it's it's there is you drive into town like it's, you know, it greets you as you're driving into into Shelly. But I don't feel like that was more than about 15 or 20 years ago that they built that.

I think that that's always existed since my kids were in school. And yeah, I mean, we're talking 2012 is when my son graduated. So I would say, that'd be 13 years ago. Yeah, 13 years ago. And at least during his high school. So I would say 15 to 20 years ago. Yeah, that's that's sort of my memory of the of the time.

I'm sure someone will be texting it in soon, but I feel like the lifespan of a high school ought to be longer than 15 or 20 years. Somebody texted in 1991. That's the year we graduated. That school was built in 1991. Is that true? It's been 34 years. What is that thing that mentor you, in effect? Is that what we're having?

Yeah. Well, the main the Mandela effect. Yeah. Is that the or maybe it is Manchurian effect.

No. But, is it really 1991? That's the year we graduated, I don't remember, yeah. Somebody else said I think it was 1992, and then they added on to it later. Okay, Julie, we're so old. Julie and I were struggling to remember something from last week. So maybe you can't trust us to remember when Shelley High School was built.

Was it really 1991? Yes, I really just said. And that's true. Oh, wow. Okay, maybe it is time to have that discussion. All right. That's. Wow. Okay, I don't like. Yes. We're old. Let's move on to something else here. Somebody else said they think one of the biggest issues with the Shelley Bond was that the population amount in that area is lower.

So the the spread out tax burden was more heavy. Oh, okay. You didn't have as many people to spread the burden out over. Oh. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. All right. Well yeah. Somebody just said Google says 91. So yes. The year we graduate. Well we are daddy wash that with Julie wash I'm having a bit of an identity crisis because it's like 34 years ago.

You don't want it though. And I don't know if you do this. I, I'm afraid even say this because I am I'm being vulnerable right now and opening myself to ridicule. But I sort of feel like anything that happened after I became an adult is still new. Okay. Do you do that? No, I do different. I feel like I lost a decade of my life.

I was so sick birthing kids. Yeah, that that ten years. It was nine years, actually, of of bringing three children into this world. I feel like I lost the whole thing. So it it morphs my time frame. Yeah, well, you did bring three children in the world. That's something. And I was really, really sick doing it. So I just feel like there's some sort of protection built in the brain that blocks all of that out.

Maybe. Yeah. And maybe it's more accurately described as anything that happened after I was a kid is new is a new like that was the OG, you know, like everything that happened there, everything else is just a, you know, a fake and a sequel and yeah, you know, a follow up. But and I know that's not true, but like I.

Yeah. Anyway, somebody said and Shelly was built the same years Hillcrest High School was, to my recollection, in 1990. That is exactly right. I was the last and only Bonneville class at Bonneville High School. And then the next year they split halfway into Hillcrest House, state of Bonneville. Okay. So yes, if that's if that was built the same time as Hillcrest.

That's correct. All right. Well, okay. So this is this is going to have to be addressed because the 34 year old high school is it probably time to look at are they building a brand new high school or are they adding on like what is the plan. And we don't know these. We don't know these sounds. Or someone just said a Shelley.

The Shelley School board did not explore enough options. They could have accomplished the same goals for a lot less money. Okay, I don't know which I I'm not there so I don't know. Do you remember the run up two Thunder Ridge High School a few years back, and there was a lot of back and forth with that. The first couple tries, it didn't come close.

I don't know if it's this far away from it, but, they were like, we you got gotta you got to get more specific. You got to work harder to cut costs. And so at that time, the board worked hard. The superintendent worked hard, and they came back with a proposal that was more palatable to the to the community.

And they voted it in. So, to explain this, when they said they are building with this band, they would have built a new high school and then used the current one for junior high, which is what Rigby did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. All right. Well, there you have it. There we go. (208) 542-1078 okay, so Julie, I did find again, we're growing more confident that the the ambulance district past.

We're thinking yes we're thinking it did. And but this was Carl Anderson calling last week. On Friday we, we had a, listener who was opposed to it. She called in she had a very prepared, present tation about why she was opposed to it. And he called in explaining why the threshold was two thirds. Yes. Neil, this is Carl.

Oh, hi, Carl. Are you good? Good. Hey, what kind of questions are coming up about this, ambulance district? So just just for verification. Everything we're doing, we are using Idaho statutes on this. Okay, so so we are we are following Idaho statutes. When we filed for this, ambulance district and the whole nine yards. Okay, so, Carl, maybe sort this out for us, then.

I'm sure you were, or else it couldn't be on the ballot. What? Why is it two thirds? But she cited a portion of Idaho code that says 50%. As you as you read the statutes. 3130 905 as you as you go through and read the statutes, there's different chapters. So part of the statutes are older statutes that said, this is what, had occurred previously.

They rewrote those statutes in 2020. So you have to go down, oh, ways to find what it actually says about an ambulance. Yes. Oh, okay. So that was an obsolete provision of the code then it's been updated. That is possible. I didn't listen to what she had to say there. Okay. A person just got to get in and read the statutes and they got to read the whole statute.

Okay? Okay. Well, Carl, thank you. I appreciate your, clarification. And, let's take one, one quick call, but we do have to take a break. Okay? So. Okay. It's that. Guess what? We're still confused. We are still confused. We're very confused here. So, I hope somebody can sort it out because you have the text from Rod Furnace saying it is two thirds.

Yeah. And it could be as simple as there was a very muddled misunderstanding by the group that wanted this thinking it was two thirds like it. Again, we make no accusations of anything nefarious here. Like it? You might just not. Election law is complicated, especially when you're taxing people and you're talking about levies and infrastructure and bonding and everything else.

When you look at the sample ballot, you're getting two pieces that probably should have been two questions. Absolutely. I would agree with that. We pulled up on the sample ballot. It feels like two separate questions like there should have been question one. And then you answered yes or no. And then question two and answered yes or no.

And I will say this for for the proponents who are saying it was two thirds if they were erroneous in that. Yeah. When the 18 pages for the, ranked choice voting law was put forth that the proposition was put forth. You and I read through that dozens of times. How many times did we read through those 18 pages?

Because there was so much confusion wrapped up in all of it. Yeah. Neal's twitching. Yeah, right now. So this stuff can be very confusing with the way that it's written. Yeah, it can be. And and, I think sometimes it's not saying in this case with the ambulance thing because that the nature of that is just complicated a lot of, a lot of moving parts to that.

But I think the back on the, the prop one thing that's there, there simple proposal that they were telling the public was we just want everybody to be able to vote in the primary. Remember that that very it was in the same exact tone that Jim Comey said. We were just walking on the beach, okay? We just want everyone to be able to vote in the primary.

You don't need 18 pages of small print to say, we just want everybody to vote in the primary there. We knew there was more there, and their cover story was not telling the whole truth. And when you dove into it and believe me, I have all the scuba diving certifications for diving into that issue. You've got scars. I do have scars.

I have all the shark bites. I got everything. And, you realize, okay, this is a massive overhaul of our entire election system. This is not just a little tweak allowing everyone to vote in the in the primary. Yeah. So dishonest. Why did you bring that up, Julie? No. Revisiting the the the anger over that and these liars that kept coming.

Liars. I only brought it up just to explain to people that there's probably somebody listening and probably multiple people listening that are like, it shouldn't be this hard. We actually agree with you. But guess what? It is this hard. Yeah, the language in this stuff is this muddled. Yeah. Yeah. It really so, a question again, I'm going to ask the ether here because neither you nor I or the Secretary of State, at least last time I checked.

Did you become the Secretary of state overnight? I didn't, but okay. He did offer an invitation to me. And I said, I'm kind of busy right now. Right? Track. Keep me in the loop in a few years. Maybe make you an honorary secretary of state. But I know one of the requirements of any proposition statewide is a single subject requirement.

Does that apply to local ballot issues? I thought the same thing, and I have no idea that the creation of an ambulance district is one thing. The funding of an ambulance district is one thing. You could vote on those separately. They might because, you know, it's very easy mentally to break that down into two ideas. You could say, I do like the idea of an ambulance district.

I'm not fond of the way it's funded or what what they're calling too much being asked for it or so easily could have been a yes or no. Couldn't have been a no and a yes because you can't fund something that doesn't exist, but a yes, yes and a yes no is a very realistic outcome on this. So I don't I don't know if that's an I guess I would ask the question, why didn't they break it up into two questions and say, if you agree with the funding of the ambulance district, you know how the creation of it, how do you fund it?

I can't even answer the question, who would have worded it? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know who would have worded it. And again, we're not we're not trying to take a side here. Right. This just opens up the whole idea of lots of questions. Election. I mean, look at all of the back and forth that they had over the wording of proposition one.

I mean, there were lawsuits over how that was going to be worded. Yeah. Or at least court action. Right. It's technically a lawsuit, but it was it was a court action. They didn't like the way that Raul Labrador had worded it. So they went to court to change it. So I don't know. Very confusing morning. Yeah. It is all right.

927 on Newstalk 179 (208) 542-1079. If you'd like to join us on the program. Oh boy. Do you also think it's weird that people who whose job it is to do new stories locally? Yeah. Don't have a story on this. That's true. There's no reporting. They they talked about Marsh Valley. They talked about Shelley. Yeah. So that leads me to think everybody else is as confused as we are.

Maybe they are. Maybe they heard that, you know, and it just feels really well. And this was something that was getting a fair amount of attention in the days leading up like this is, Yeah. Well, I think I made the joke last week, like, I've never really been interested in the outcome of an ambulance district until now, but now I am, and now I am even more so.

I don't know, weird. All of it's weird. Yeah, it is weird. I also think it's weird. I'm not getting text back. I think, yeah, right. Maybe you just need to text Todd Stoll to sort this out for us, because you told us it was two thirds. I'd love to. I don't have his number because I wasn't the one who.

Okay, I'll have Heather give us his number and we'll we'll track it down. Well, it also the phone call, from Carl Anderson. I feel like two thirds was implied, but never stated. Like he called to contradict the previous caller. And in my follow up question about why is it two thirds, he said, well, there's been an update in 2020, but he never said it's two thirds because, does that make sense?

That does make sense. I mean, there is no confusion, no vagaries about my texting to Representative Furness. Oh, no. No. Very clear. The text back is two thirds. Yeah. Did we text him. I haven't heard from him. Still. No. Maybe he's confused too. Yeah. Is okay. Let's there's lots of options here. Is there a chance somebody in Phil migraines office misinterpreted the statute and told them the wrong thing.

I mean it could even be that maybe I did not. I will be very very honest here. I did not feel like the two men that we had in, in studio were being nefarious with us. No, I did not get that at all. And I'm pretty good at reading people in person. I prefer to interview people in person versus like over zoom or whatever, but sometimes we just don't even have the option.

We have to do zoom because they live somewhere else or whatever. Yeah, I like them in studio because I like the sense that I get from them. Yeah, I, I've told the story repeatedly. When we interviewed Chris Tapp after he got let out of prison, I didn't get a bad feeling from that guy. Yeah, yeah, I didn't either.

931 on Newstalk 179 (208) 542-1079. We have texts out to Representative Furness to the Secretary of State's office, trying to bring clarity to this. What what the threshold is. We know what ChatGPT said, what Secretary GPT said this morning that not an elected official, however, and. Yes, true. But we had it look at Idaho code and we had it look at the ballot.

And ChatGPT said it's definitely 50% and a vote. There's no two thirds here at all. So but you know, we're operating under the assumption there is a new funded ambulance district in Jefferson County. Yes. Yeah, we are all right. Should we go to something national? Julie. Sure. I why do you keep playing view clips. Clips from The View?

I don't know, but these girls really made themselves look stupid yesterday, right? Yeah. They they really did. Here's, should you want sunny or do you want loopy? Goofy? I think people actually value up a little bit more than sunny. Okay, here's whoopee. The trust issue has always been a mash trust. The trust issue because politicians, media, nobody does what they're supposed to do.

Now, I say for me, why does that get applause? Because somebody click the light that said applause. And the people act like monkeys. Do what they're told. Don't understand why that's applause. Yeah, because you can't think freely when you're part of the View studio audience. I don't know why that got a lot of applause. Mean in the audience.

They like what she said. I heard her voice. Yes. Well, you can't trust anybody. Yeah, you can't ask anybody. Like, what is that? I don't know, it's a special, kind, special kind that goes to see The View taping. I it's so weird. Is it. He's 83 so he's a little stumbling. He's a little rumbly. I can't point to anything that he's done as press that he did know that was running for you.

But but I'm saying I want it, not you, but I want somebody to tell me. Well, when did you know it was bad? If you knew, why did you wait? Yeah. So I just heard that he said that it was after he moderated the debate. Yes, but that's not. I'm sorry, baby, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about if you if you're telling me that hundreds of people knew that he was not able to do his job, then where the hell was everybody at his job?

Oh, okay. So this Julie, I can't I can't you didn't need to be in the white House seeing Joe Biden every single day to know that he was in cognitive decline. You didn't. I'm going to go back to the. You don't even need to forgive his gaffes. You don't even need to do that. The behavior of his day to day leadership was the reason to remove him or to start questioning.

He wasn't holding meetings. He didn't have a cabinet meeting for a full year. They're calling lids on a regular basis. He can't make it through a press conference without a teleprompter. He can't go to a town hall. He can't go to a meeting in front of 20 people in an elementary school gym without a teleprompter. None of those things are gaffes.

No. And they were all context clues to go something seriously wrong. And and we were seeing that. I mean, I say day one, I'll just say very early on in in his I had concerns about his capabilities during the Covid delay. You know, remember running the campaign from the base, from his basement? He didn't always seem like he was all there.

And maybe at that time, because I am not a Democrat and I'm probably more skeptical of Democrats than I would be Republicans. I had I had concerns even before he was president of the United States. Like how how can this guy win? I mean, he's he needs to be in a rest home somewhere, eat an ice cream on a Florida beach or, you know, whatever.

And here he wants to be the president of the United States. It turned out as disastrous as we could have imagined. Ironically, he ate ice cream. Ice cream on a Delaware beach. Yeah, I know that's how he spent his time. It is. And and meanwhile, you have Otto Pens signing really important documents. And I think the question is very, very important.

The decisions that were made during the Biden presidency that fall only in the purview of the powers of the presidency, constitutionally granted, were they made by Joe Biden. And I don't think the answer to that is yes in every instance. And I think Trump's point is, is very on point. The last couple of days that he's put on Truth Social, he said Joe Biden isn't for open borders.

He's in fact, he's kind of defending Joe Biden in a way. But he is turning his attention now to who was in charge inside that white House, who was initiating the auto pen, who was making the decisions about what what executive orders were going to be signed. And because we know Joe was not cogent, we he there were moments when maybe he he was lucid here and there, but for the most part, he was out of it for a, for a lot of the time.

So there were a lot of pardons signed over multiple days. But they have proven that some of the biggest pardons, the biggest names that were pardoned, those were done when Biden wasn't even in the white House. They have his travel schedule. He wasn't present in DC when those pardons were signed. Okay. Can he sign them elsewhere? I don't know, but man, you've got to.

Well, first off, he was only in D.C. half the time. He took more vacation days in his presidency than any other president in the in the history. Yeah, than any other president. I again, context clues. Shouldn't that make you wonder if he's doing a good job? Yeah, it really, really ought to make you wonder. Sunny Hostin, listen.

What? That's the point. Okay? This is this is the thing. Now, Jake is my former colleague. I know him well. He's a friend. He's a terrific journalist. He said that 99% of what is reported in the book was discovered after the election. So I think we can put that part to bed about journalists holding on information until, so that they could make money off their book.

But I do think, that we should be very, very concerned about are the people that were in the Trump administration that did hold on to information about how Trump was conducting the presidency so that they could make money off of their books? We're talking about former national security adviser John Bolton, who came on this show hawking his book, and I told him why didn't you say something before former Attorney General Bill Barr, he wrote a book, didn't say anything while he was in the way.

Former Defense Secretary asked for an that white House press. Okay, first of all, I need to point out you don't have the luxury of speaking against the president while you're on the president's payroll. Okay? That's if you're if you're going to take that job and accept that job while you're there, you can't go out and publicly undermine the president's policies, quit your job and then go criticize the president, which is exactly what some of these people did.

So Sonny's creating this scenario that isn't even based in any kind of reality. Okay. So as long as you're showing up to work and taking a paycheck, it is not your prerogative to go out and undermine your boss's agenda or message. Right? She's also built a, foundation with her first comment about Jake Tapper, which is, well, I worked with him and he's a good dude, so package that up, put it over here.

Jake doesn't have any faults, but let's talk about all the Trump people that have faults. Yeah, so Sonny gets to be the judge and jury for everyone. If she decides a journalist is a good journalist, whether or not they made a bad choice or not, we can't scrutinize that journalist. Is there also a twist in the burden of proof?

You start out with the, the assumption that Joe Biden was fine and you have to prove that wrong. But with Trump, you start out with the assumption he's horrible and now you need to prove otherwise. Yes. Yeah, that's absolutely what she's doing in all of this. Yeah. If they don't even see their own bias in this.

Yeah. But the studio audience is clapping yet is that I've, I've realized though after listening to sadly probably we're into hours of the view clips. If I go back and and and collectively added up the duration of the clips to the view that we have, it's probably numbered in the hours now. But what it does give you truly is the viewpoint that the intellectual threshold for applause on the view is lower than Death Valley.

All right. Should we take a break? Sure. It's 940 on Newstalk 107. We'll be back after this. Okay. Hey, guys.

The view, where are they at? Are they in New York or are they in LA? Joy Bay ha talks all the time about her New York apartment. I believe they're in New York. I think you're right. Unless something's changed in the times that I've heard her talk I think it is New York. So if you're in New York and you're walking past and there's someone outside, there's an open door.

And they said, hey, we have a few open seats in The View. You want to attend a taping for the next 90 minutes? What did you do? Well, I was it's funny that you just asked me that question, because I was about to say before you started talking, I'd be pretty interested in the workings of a of a Hollywood taping.

So I would go to a taping just to see just a background of everything that's going on, because that piqued my interest with the things that we do. When you and I went to the Trump rallies, remember how much time I spent watching the other journalists and not really Trump? Because I wanted to see how the CNN do a hit, how do how are they making this work?

And and what kind of notes is that? Is that reporter holding? And, you know, that kind of stuff. So I would love to see the inner workings of a taping. I don't know if I mentally could sit through, of you taping. I don't know if I could do it. I would say, Will you give me some earplugs?

And then I'd probably do it. And another question that I would ask is how required am I to applause when that applause light comes on? Because I'm not going to applaud if I don't feel like it. Right? Right. I know you're going to get filthy looks. And is the producer going to come over and talk to you? Because we do shots of the audience, and if you're not clapping, it doesn't look good.

Yeah, right. Yeah. More anti-Israel protest. Somebody said a text that said the view proves that women shouldn't have the right to vote.

I guess what, I can line up a whole bunch of dumb men that could sit on a panel, just like The View led by Adam Schiff. Adam Kinzinger could be their dummy Republican. Swalwell could be on their, Bruce Springsteen could be on there. I didn't do Timberlake. Oh, sorry, guys, I'm looking. I think I need to do one more of the Clayton.

Or did I do three this week? You did two on one day. I did okay then. Yeah. That's right. Oh, boy. Oh, Megan. Kelly. Look, Jake went on Megan Kelly's. He probably knew he was going to get blasted, but he's like she reaches millions. I've got to do this to sell books. So is he going to do Rogan?

Do you think Rogan will torch it? Rogan is too intimidating for people because it's too long. Yeah. I don't know how long Megan Kelly went with him. It was several minutes, but it wasn't three hours because Rogan usually just has one guest for like 2 or 3 hours. Right? It's 947 on Newstalk. 1079 Neil Larson, Julie Mason. All right.

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Now she's facing charges, and they don't want to talk about the actual physical altercation. This is this is James Comey. All he was doing was walking on the beach. Well, let's and let's not talk about the fact that 8647 is a reference to assassination. The left also doesn't want to talk about the fact that she engaged physically with Ice agents while she made that visit.

So she's on doing a media hit. Would you have done anything differently? No, I would not have. Once again, we showed up there to do a job. Okay. We were there for an oversight visit. We have done this before. You know, me, Congresswoman Bonnie Watson Coleman and Congressman Bob Menendez was just at a facility just a couple of weeks ago, not too far from this location where we had an oversight visit and we were a little bit delayed, but not, you know, confronted, or it was in the middle of the chaos to do so.

I think the number one, we have an obligation to do so we have to show up and do our jobs. And at the end of the day, the reason why we were there is because we wanted to make sure this facility was up to par, that it was okay. Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla.

She never gets around to addressing the elephant in the room. Which is it? You got in a scuffle with Ice agents with with law enforcement? You can't do that. You don't have physical scuffles with law enforcement. Also, she doesn't clarify if she said she went before. By the way, she uses the English language wrong in the middle of that and that was annoying.

But she said she went before. Did you have a scheduled visit before? Because they told them as they got out, you can view this, but you have to schedule a visit. You just can't come in. Yeah, we're not prepared right now. And that's when the scuffle broke out. So did you do it correctly the other times and just decided to be a big old nuisance this time?

Answer that question. How was the procedure done before? They've also been told you're welcome back as long as you schedule. Yeah, right. Because it takes resources to accommodate people coming in. You have to keep them safe. Yeah, yeah, they have to have a certain amount of people on on shift that day. It has to be done during certain windows because you can't come during like eating times and you know it.

That is not ridiculous to expect them to schedule their visit. So bang bang boyfriend went to the microphone and he's now kind of threatening Ice agents. Listen, we all have Monica's back here. And we're with her. If they can go after someone like Congresswoman McIvor, somebody who serves in an official office, who's doing her official duties, they are coming for you.

Okay, listen, Bang Bang's boyfriend, you. They're not bang thing. Thing thing. Commander Swalwell. He. No, the problem is, it's not showing up wanting oversight of a federal facility. That's not the problem. You do it properly. Do it all day. Nobody cares. The problem is you're showing up and like a bull in a China shop, and you're trying to force your way in and you're getting physical with law enforcement officers.

That's the problem. Bang, bang. Now, Fang fang. Now, now address that issue. Don't leapfrog over it. Don't pretend it's not there. Don't go around it. The issue is the physical altercation. Talk about that okay. This is very simple to look at from a different angle, which is you're a mother, you have a child who's committed a crime and they're in your local jail.

You don't get to just show up and go whenever you want to go. These detainees are in an Ice facility, which is like a jail. You have to you're not the king, Swalwell. You don't get to just decide whatever you want to do. Yeah. It is it is very procedural in these facilities. Gels, prison, detained a detaining officers like you have to follow procedure because their safety protocol.

Yeah. So okay. The, the some Democrats can be really calculating Julie. So here's, here's my, theory and we do have take a break here shortly. Did they know that they showed up. They'd be resisted. So then they could spin a narrative that they're hiding something and. Oh, absolutely. I believe this was totally calculated. And they I that there's no evidence to suggest they're hiding things.

It's just a very, very secure facility. And every consideration has to be brought into purview. If you're going to allow visitors to go into the place for all the reasons you just cited, they knew they couldn't just walk in there. So they're spinning the resistance as they're hiding. They're hiding things. Absolutely. And after creating that melee that they did, they were granted access.

It was either the next day or the day after that. And they went in and reported everybody. It was all fine. Yeah, it turned out just fine anyway. Yeah, yeah. Unreal. 953 we'll be back. We'll wrap up the hour after this on Newstalk 179. I don't think I could ever think through something like that. Where okay, how can we frame them to be in a bad light?

We'll show up unannounced, force our way in when they resist, then we're going to say they're hiding things on the inside. I that's not my brain either. So then you can throw all sorts of insinuations in there, like inmates are being roughed up and tortured and whatever. I also don't try to protect criminals. So there's that. That's why you and I can't do that.

That's true. We just don't have the right mentality. Yeah. CNN is running a Kyron right now that said that there's a white House official that's saying the last time that Biden got a PSA test was 2014, 2014, 11 years ago. How old is he now? 81, 82. So he would have been 71, 70, 71, something like that.

No. You get PSA test through your 70s. Yeah. This is this is bad. You know what it is. It's just more dodge, more coverup, more distraction, more. Jesse emailed me the file. Oh he did. It's the wrong day, I'm sure. Okay. Because we were originally working on Thursday. Thursday? Yeah. Yeah. Right. I'll track it down to figure it out.

When does the Secretary of State certify results? Does he have a have to date by I don't know probably like 30 but I don't know. Do you hear my knuckles cracking I did. So now Bill Belichick and Jordan Hudson. Yeah. They're engaged. They're engaged in, what a man will do.

Oh, what a woman will do. Oh, yeah. For different reasons. Yes. Right. For very different reasons. What a woman will do for a dollar bill and what a man will do for to give up a dollar bill.

Yeah. What if they were just brutally honest about it? I don't really love him, but he's got a lot of money, and hopefully it'll open doors for me. So I'm marrying him, and I think she's a dim witted fool, but I'm, You know what I'm getting? Yeah, I don't know, maybe they really love each other.

Who were? Who are we to judge?

Oh, I'm sure you're right. Deliberately naive. Yeah, I am sure you're right. There we go. Nine 958 on Newstalk 1079. Swing by town and Country Garden gets your four step lawn program. Your vegetables, your flowers. Memorial day is coming up. Get all the other things that you need for your lawn. Like mulch, like soil, like bark. You know, all the fill in stuff, shrubs, trees they have it all, Julie.

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