4.21.2025 -- NLS -- McLean Defies Flag Law, Vatican Mourns Pope

On this episode with Neal and Julie, the show opens with somber reflections on the passing of the pope and the ceremonial nine days of mourning currently underway at the Vatican. But the heart of the episode dives into fiery local controversy as Neal and Julie dissect the escalating drama over the LGBTQ flag flown at Boise City Hall. After a conservative activist removed the flag using a ladder and hefty bag—without damaging it—Mayor Lauren McLean reversed the act on Easter Sunday, prompting legal and ethical debate.

The discussion centers around the Idaho law that restricts what flags can be flown on government buildings. Neal and Julie criticize Mayor McLean for knowingly defying that law and highlight the legislature’s oversight in failing to attach penalties to it. They predict the law will soon be amended with enforceable consequences and argue the situation underscores a broader trend of elected officials disregarding laws they disagree with.

The conversation broadens to national legal topics, including President Trump’s executive order addressing birthright citizenship, and touches on recent Supreme Court decisions involving immigration and crime. Neal and Julie also reflect on media narratives, the politicization of the judiciary, and how emotional decision-making often drives progressive policy.

Amid the political back-and-forth, the hosts briefly lighten things up with nostalgic Easter memories and commentary on mainstream media portrayal of public figures. As always, Neal and Julie keep the tone sharp, reflective, and opinionated, offering a blend of local outrage and national analysis.

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Transcript

And good morning. It is 807 on Newstalk 1079. Welcome to a Monday edition of The Neil Larson Show and unexpected headline. This morning when I got into work, Pope Francis passed away overnight. He was 88 years old. And now lots of discussions, tangential discussions have, ensued around who will replace him. And of course, there's, a retrospect on his impact on his life.

He was the first Latin American, in fact, believed the first, the first pope from the Americas to serve as pope. And will that continue? I was chatting with Julie early. She says no earlier, and, she said there's a lot of sentiment within the church that they want to go back to a European pope and not a Latin American pope.

And there's always the politics of of this, which it used to be. It's one of the reasons I grew up. I was never Catholic, but my pope was Pope John Paul. And I remember, having tremendous admiration for him. He was just a he didn't seem overtly political, but he was very traditionally conservative and just seemed to love and to care about, everyone around him.

And as we have progressed as a society, we all know that politics has a way of permeating absolutely everything. Everything? Everything. And the papacy was not insulated from that. Pope Francis, of course, was on some issues far to the left. Now some people would say that was to his credit, that he was reflecting a more compassionate and Christlike worldview to others.

It was a pretty radical change for the Catholic Church to have a pope that was so vocal on a number of political issues, and now that raises the question already we've seen kind of the line up of potential next popes, and it's all these cardinals from all over. So that will be, what will happen in the in the coming weeks.

Of course, we want to extend our condolences to, Catholics today who may be, struggling or in mourning. In fact, there's an official nine days of mourning that have begun as part of the ceremonial, a portion of what happens when a pope, dies, and there's, they're live shots right now at the Vatican. And, there are people converging on Vatican City, this morning and, obviously, so now it's not going to be all about the pope today.

Of course. Like I said, we want to extend our condolences. We're not going to have harsh criticism of the Pope today. Today's not the day to do that. But as we watch the process move forward, there's obviously going to be a political angle on it. And, political component. We have new drama out of the state capitol over the flags being flown in front of Boise City Hall.

And mayor McLain took time out of her Easter Sunday to go down to City Hall and to reverse what had happened the night before and what had happened the night before is a conservative activist showed up with a very tall ladder, extend the ladder up the flagpole, climb up, climbs up the ladder and does not vandalize, shred, tear down, cut down anything that was damaging and instead took a hefty bag and stuffed the LGBTQ flag into the hefty bag and then tied it to the chain.

And this activist also raised a flag that I. I'll be honest, I wasn't that familiar with it, but it was one of the early Massachusetts state flags that can be flown in times of distress or emergency. And frankly, that flag, there's verbiage that is protecting that. Those sorts of flags in the law. So it was actually a legal flag to fly.

Now, it may be have been in violation of Boise city code, which might say only city officials can hoist flags on the city flagpole. But I don't know what the punishment would be otherwise, I really don't. So, now, the the mayor shows up. It was going viral on social media, and the mayor helps, city maintenance worker, unfurl once again the rainbow flag and take down the unauthorized flag that was placed there by the conservative activist.

I need to get the name of that flag. I apologize, I don't have that for you. Right now. But you knew these things were going to happen. The mayor was asked about, flying this flag, and it's clearly against the law. Clearly. And here's what she had to say. The state's AG, as well as the sheriff, has sent the request in letters to follow the new law.

But the message we received from your office yesterday saying that the law includes neither definitions nor enforcement mechanisms and will continue to fly the flags currently on display at City Hall. How do you square these two things, and would you respond to people confused by your position and choosing not to follow Idaho law? Sure. You know, we received those letters and we're taking them under consideration and evaluation.

And as I've said to the public, in the meantime, we will continue to fly the flags we've historically flown. And we do that because we have flown the pride flag for nearly a decade. And that flag says that we are unequivocally a city that's safe and welcoming for everyone. It's our a symbol of our commitment to that. Okay, I want to stop here because there there are multiple issues there.

Number one, the word historically she has a very low bar, for what that word means. Secondly, let's say that, okay, 8 to 10 years of flying a flag, counties historically that still doesn't give you justification to break the law that you've sworn an oath to uphold. I mean, can you imagine making that argument in a courtroom before a judge who's about to sentence you or a jury who's about to deliver a verdict on your crime?

You're like, it doesn't matter what the law is, because this is what we've always done, or at least for the last, better part of a decade. That's not even an argument. This is more evidence that the left operates out of their emotion, that what ought to be is equivalent to what is, and it explains so much about their approach to different cultural issues in life where it that none of these, none of what she said is actually a rationale for breaking the law.

She goes on, and it's a part of how we tell the story of who we are as a city. And so we'll continue to fly the flag. We are a city that will break the law if we feel like it. I mean, that's what she's not trying to say, that, but that's really what is being conveyed. Are you looking for this to be settled in court, or are you willing to take it that far?

We are waiting to hear otherwise, but until then, we are continuing to do what we've always done, which is fly a flag that says we are safe and welcoming city for everyone. No you're not. You're flying a flag that is promoting alternative sexual lifestyles. Okay. I don't I look, if there is a flag that is inclusive of everyone, we already have it.

It's called the American flag that if you are here, particularly if you are a citizen of the United States, you have basic protections and constitutional rights. And that flag in part represents those protections and rights and common ideals. So how, to me, it's such a weird argument, to make and I suppose maybe to a lesser extent, the flag of the state of Idaho, should should represent many of those same values, if anything, as long and I wouldn't be in favor of this either.

But the Lgbtiq, what is that flag anyway? Now, I mean, I know what it is, but what is it? What does that flag say? What does it mean? What? What? Well, it is like any other symbol. It means different things to different people. And I'll be very candid with you. For those who are here, for those who fly that flag, for some it it means standing up against oppression.

That that's what many of them believe. It means that you're an ally, that you are, protective of of those who are not in the mainstream, those who are LGBTQ, but for other people, when that flag is raised, especially in a in a public setting, not on private property, but on a publicly municipally held flagpole, it's an exertion of saying some people are better than other people.

Some people are not even better, more important than some people deserve, recognition more than others do. That's a that's a bad road to go down. I would never, ever try to restrict, private business or an individual from raising whatever flag they want to. This is different, and this is very different. So. Well, and I think that's one of the reasons why the legislature passed this law.

Now the legislature is getting some, some criticism. The, the Ada County sheriff among those leveling criticism against the Idaho legislature for not including some kind of an enforcement provision. And the attorney general, in his letter to mayor McClain, also mentioned, I don't really have any way to prosecute you, but you are breaking the law and, you know what?

She's appealing to her base. She's she's setting aside the law and the oath that she made to get something of political value to her. And in Boise, it'll probably, work out okay for her. She is putting she's elevating. I believe her political fortunes above an oath that she made to uphold the laws of the state of Idaho.

And to me, that's that's really sad. What's going to happen here? I don't think anything is. I think she's going to keep flying the flag. I think the legislature, come January, right out of the gate, we'll pass something that will give the law some teeth. And, I would say this is what I would do if you could legally make it happen, make whatever penalty retroactive to the passage of the law in 2025.

That may not be constitutional, but it maybe we'll take a break. It's 820 on Newstalk 179. Back up to this.

All right. 825 on Newstalk 107, I, Neil Larson, along with Julie Mason and, I was just asking Julie if the annual Easter egg roll at the white House is an Easter egg roll and East Coast thing, because I don't ever remember, either giving my kids, like, a little stick thing to push the eggs, and I don't ever remember seeing it happen around here.

Like, usually it's an Easter egg free for all where they put a thousand eggs on a big grassy park and then let the kids run and, anyway, but I don't I where did the Easter egg roll emerge and where does it still happen? I have no idea. Never, never participated in one. Never seen one in real life.

And my family did hunts. Not. Yeah. Free for alls. Yeah. And that's what we did yesterday. We had a little Easter egg hunt in our backyard with our grandkids, and it was a lot of fun. They they had a good time. Good to, to avoid the older grandkids from getting all of the, Easter eggs from the younger grandkids each each grandkid had a color, so they had to go out and find their color of eggs, like like, ten, ten eggs.

It worked out really well. That would work. My husband's grandparents did a big Easter egg hunt. Yeah, for years. So my kids got to participate in that before they passed. And the way that they solved the problem you're talking about is every child had a bag that was filled with appropriate things for them. Little bit of money, candy, toys, whatever.

And it was hidden on the property. As you got older, your bag was much harder to find. Oh, gotcha. If you were if you were little, you know, if you're three and you're walking around with Mom or dad, your bags are pretty easy to spot. Yeah, right. If you're 16, you're going to be searching for an hour and a half or so.

So have you ever had. This is totally happened. In our backyard where you're you're mowing the lawn, like, in August or September, and you're maybe raking leaves or something, and you come across an old Easter egg. Yeah. No, because I've never seen you didn't do it in your backyard, you know? Yeah. But here's the danger of that.

What if you use real eggs? We. When we were kids, we used real eggs. Okay. Yeah. We colored those eggs and hid the real eggs. Yeah. If you don't find one of those and it's in your house or. Oh, yeah. That's a good reason to not use real eggs in your house. Yeah, yeah, that that would be nasty.

The chocolate gets a little rancid, so I've heard. Not really. I didn't eat the. I was FaceTiming my grandson. He was getting ready for church yesterday morning, and he just keeps asking for his candy over and over, and. Yeah, he's saying things like, you have a mom, the Kenny's in the drawer. She's like, hey, buddy, I know it's in the drawer.

You can't have any like he's like trying to corner. And I said, you guys should have body one of those gross, waxy chocolate bunnies. And my son's like, he would have still eaten that. Oh, yeah. You're a little kid. You don't. You don't care. You're like. Although something tells me you would have. I wouldn't have eaten the waxy chocolate bunny.

Not in a not even year. Not even whenever I remember those, old school advent calendars that you could get at, like, Kings or Kmart and and you got a little chocolate in each. I didn't eat those. Okay? You're the weird ones. No offense, but you're the weird one. It was good. Notice they keep selling them. Do you know why they keep selling them?

Because people eat them. You can. You see, it was good chocolate, comparatively speaking. Probably. No. Wasn't tasty like so. I didn't need it. Yeah, but what was your standard it three like I just knew it tasted like whack so I didn't eat it. Okay. Julie, Julie's food snobbery began at a very young age.

I'm like, in a pinch, I'll still eat that crap like, I. I and it's.

22 minutes since I consume sugar and it's a holiday. Like, where's that in culinary? That's not what I mean by in a pinch. I mean, you know, if there's not anything else in in the absence of fine Swiss chocolates. Okay, I might, you know, unroll the foil that was pulled out of the bulk bin at the grocery store.

Okay.

And it's fine. It's fine. All right. It's 831 on Newstalk 10792085421079. If you'd like to join us on the on the break. You've always been this way, have you? I'm sorry. It's okay. It's I think people love that about it. How did they really easy for my mother. She didn't like. I wasn't going to ransack the pantry for anything.

True. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the kids got strawberry. And you got Toblerone, right? Is that how that worked out? Actually, they didn't even ask for chocolate. Oh, yeah, you're right, you're not a Chuck because none of it meets your standard. That's why you didn't ask for chocolate. I'm figuring all this stuff out. I've always wondered, why does Julie not like chocolate?

Give me a good Starburst. Will be on better terms. Yeah. Okay. What chocolate does meet your. I don't love chocolate, but I don't, I don't know I it's not like I search out really expensive chocolate. I just don't think chocolate tastes that great in shapes of bunnies or whatever. Okay. But is the have to because they are not going to use good chocolate to you to make those.

That's that's probably true. Yeah. Because usually it goes to little kids who don't give a crap. Right? They're just like, oh yeah, like that. Yeah. So I found, I don't know, I've known this for a little while. The magic show, you know, the stuff you put on ice cream? Yeah. Do you like that stuff? I've only had it a couple of times in my life, but I'd be fine with that.

Do you know how to make it now? Chocolate chips and coconut oil. And then it will harden back up when you put them out in the cold? Yes. Okay. Yeah, I totally makes sense because that's what I do when I, I make cookies and I drizzle them with chocolate. Yeah. It's yeah it's some chocolate chips and some like coconut oil or some crystal melted in the microwave.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Totally makes sense anyway. All right. It's oddly become a cooking show. Now, here. Well, fully back. It's 833 on Newstalk 1079. All right. It's 838 on Newstalk. 107I, Neil Larsen and Julie Mason, Chris Van Hollen making the rounds on the Sunday talk shows over the weekend, defending meeting with Ms13 gang member Kilmer Abrego. Garcia, can you say with absolute certainty that he is not, nor has he ever been a member of the Ms13 gang?

And did you ask him point blank? Well, Dana, what Donald Trump is trying to do here is change the subject. The subject, it he changes the subject by talking about Donald Trump changing the subject. Where to go. It's such a basic question to be asking, too, about this whole situation. I am. Okay, kudos to Dana Bash for asking the question, revoking the kudos for not cutting him off and saying, that's not what I asked you, Senator.

Yeah, do a follow up at this point. Press him on. She would not have been so deferential to any Republican had they evaded answering the question the way that he did that whole meeting is weird, too. You and I were talking about this off air this morning. It's weird. I don't understand the clothes that he's wearing. They look brand new.

The jeans look brand new. The break. Garcia. Yes, the the clothes look pressed and and completely put together. They're having this, like, little intimate meeting over a table. And Van Hollen is sitting up close to him with his hands near a break. Those hands? Yeah. What's the last time you had lunch with a man and you did that?

Thursday. Yeah. No, I never have, I never would, I love it was so just awesome. For what was supposed to be our perception of what a break Garcia was going through. We had been fed this narrative by the mainstream media that this guy is in this white diaper looking thing in a prison, probably getting assaulted, but nope, he's actually in brand new clothes, carrying a water bottle.

Brand new. Had been the senator having an intimate meal together. Looks like they made a stop at JCPenney before they did the photo op cafeteria interview. I'll just weird. It is really weird. It is really, really weird. So am I supposed to feel bad for him? That's my question about whomever brought him looking like that. I don't feel bad for him.

No, that's right, it would have been better. The optics would have been better if he was in a prison jumpsuit. Like, yeah, I, I don't know what was happening there. And you find out that they days ago transferred him to this other facility. He's not even in a jail cell. He's in a room that has a bed and a lamp and a nightstand.

And like, he he has nice digs that he's staying in right now. This is so ludicrous that we're supposed to act like this man who has clearly broken the law by being an illegal immigrant. Yeah. Shelf the ms13. I have no doubt he's part of that mess. 13 but shelf that. Yeah. He broke the law right. He I know he did.

He's he's got a drug issue. He's got a violence issue I don't understand that. Were supposed to turn this man into a hero. That's what they do though. And there's a pattern, right? Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. That, there's one other topic I was going to bring up before we get to the Scotus decision. We probably need to talk about that.

Yeah. So on Saturday, the Supreme Court decided that, well, it was broadened quite a bit by the mainstream media. They ran with this narrative, like all deportations had been shut down by the Supreme Court at this point. That is not the decision. The decision was made that a certain group of trendy arugula, alleged members, have to be, analyzed in a court of law before they're sent out of America.

They're in Texas right now. Yes. Yeah. So that was the decision. Conservatives were very upset about it, very upset. And Justice Alito was pretty scathing in his rebuke of his fellow justices directly against his colleagues on the court. Yes. Yeah. So if you're hearing, you know, scuttlebutt about the Scotus decision this morning, don't get swept up in what the Democrats are making this sound like, because that's not what it is.

Yeah. No, that that's true. That's true. They I think there's, not a danger isn't the right word, but I, I think it's foolish for them to inflate this Supreme Court decision into something bigger than it is. Because Trump can still fully deport people who are here illegally. Yes. It was just a small slice of people that the Supreme Court put the stay on.

But the deportations are still happening big time. Yes. So what the Supreme Court is asking for these people in Texas, these alleged members of trend arugula, is that you show proof that they're members of that. Before you use that for a reason, to move them out of America. And so I don't know why it's specific to just these people.

And this is this is ridiculous. On a on a one basic front, every president deports people. Yeah. Every single one. Yeah. So do Democrats really expect the courts to step in for every deportation at this point? I think Democrats expect the courts to do everything they can to stop everything Trump tries to do. Yeah, I that's I mean, you have Gavin Newsom trying to file a lawsuit to stop the tariffs because he thinks it's going to hurt California.

Whatever. So, yeah, I think they're your answer. I know you asked rhetorically, but I actually think there is a real answer to that question. They're just going to throw up every possible roadblock they can, because I think there's part of it that they know these things are very successful with the American people. The optics are pretty darn good that Trump is deporting gang members.

That's just a policy that most Americans are going to get on board with. And because there's a follow up to that, why are they here in the first place? Why were they allowed to come here in the first place? And so they don't want that policy to carry forward. But I think, again, I think it backfires on them because then they get to have the optics, they get saddled with the optics of trying to keep gang members in the United States of America.

That's terrible for their brand. And not understandable. I why would you want these violent criminals walking among your family members? Yeah, I don't know. I, I if you just go down to the basic humanity of it, there's not a single senator or representative who would allow these people to put up a tent in their backyard or to stay in their home, reducing them down to a descriptor like violent criminals misses the nuance.

Sure, you hold on to real conversation. You you hold on to them. Go right ahead. If that's the nuance you need, you provide them a, room to rent in your home. Yeah. Agreed. You agreed? Yeah. I think they should, And maybe Chris Van Hollen. Well, look a break. Yo, Garcia's not coming back. He may come back only very temporarily.

They file the paperwork, and then he's just going back to El Salvador. Yeah, yeah. So maybe the courts are doing the stay, because when it comes to do due process is very important if somebody is going to be incarcerated. If they're simply going back to their home country then that's, that's just a different conversation altogether. Yes.

And so if they're not claiming asylum, if there's, you know, legitimately claiming asylum, then they're going back to a place where they're relatively free. But if you're going to incarcerate someone, I, I can see how the courts are making the argument. You have to do some due process here and prove that they're actually gang members. So yeah, I not that I agree with it.

I'm just saying I understand the argument. Oh, I totally get that too. The issue is, is that you have, not legitimate judges. You have Democrat appointed judges in various areas who are going to say, no, you can't send them even when there's overwhelming proof that this person is a member of trend arugula and has broken the law.

Yes. Yeah. Some someone said Scotus is corrupt. You just can't say it on the air. Well, I can say you said it on the.

All right, we got a break. It's 847 on Newstalk 1079. It's a Monday morning. If you'd like to reach us, we'd love to have you on the Stones Automotive group. Colin. Text line that's (208) 542-1079. If you want to comment on the Pope's passing, you're free to do that. Also, flag gate in Boise, interesting developments from over the weekend and Chris Van Halen's media tour.

It's all coming up.

852 on Newstalk 179 Juli, minutes ago we got this text from a listener. The Idaho Legislature is an abject failure. They pass the law with no consequences for breaking them. I would like someone from the legislature to explain what they did. Okay, well, we had that. Yeah, we actually did. We talked about that last week, sent out a couple of text to lawmakers who typically listen to the show, and I knew would answer quickly.

Yeah. And we had a lawmaker who, before answering us, reached out to Heather Scott, who, authored the bill. Yeah. And Heather's response was that when the bill was written, the assumption was, is that if you were an elected official, you would obey the law. Yeah. So they didn't feel like they needed to put a penalty into the law, which, is that naive thinking now in retrospect, because we do have mayors like mayor McLain that doesn't really give a crap about the law, potentially.

Yeah. I you know, you can appreciate the, if if all of that is accurate, you can appreciate the the purity of being a lawmaker that you would think if you write a law, people are going to obey the law, but you also have to look at it and go, well, we could have done that with the library porn bill, and that bill would have gone through in the first year had there not been a penalty to it.

Yeah, that's true, you're right. But we fought for a penalty because we knew that people weren't going to obey it. And even with the very small minor penalty that finally was attached to it, you had librarians across the state who did stupid things with it, including in Idaho Falls. Yeah. So yes, it does feel a little bit like you got duped because obviously you understand you have to put penalties into these things because some people aren't going to obey.

You know, it was years ago, speaking of the library, but a totally separate issue. They did away with late fees. Oh yeah. Guess who stopped taking books back to the library? I mean, there was just not that much urgency, right? Like, I try to be a good citizen, and I do, but, like, if I knew I was going to get dinged $0.50 a day or however much I'd be like, okay, I'll make that stop.

But when you have a busy life and you have places to go and things to do, it's like there's no or else. So you have to put and or else into the law or else, or else you're going to have an issue. Well what if you knew that every time you got pulled over for speeding it was just going to be a warning.

Right. That'd be great. Do you know how much time I'd say let's go to the phones. I think we have Representative Barbie heart. Barb, we have about three minutes. How are you today? Hey, guys, I'm Jeff to invent haptic. And as you can well imagine, I'm listening to this conversation and and just thought I'd chime in. I ironically, I spoke with Heather Scott representing Scott last night.

One of the things I told her, I think that's crazy, at least from the responses to this, just as you had shared that somehow we had failed, you know, shame on all of you. We go there. We worked really hard trying to correct what the left, puts in and this is my thoughts. This actually has been a huge blessing in disguise.

Well, you guys probably don't understand is there had been a huge push, especially starting a couple of years ago, but a huge push to do away with, private causes of actions or essentially penalties. Now, the private causes of actions would be more, you know, related to maybe schooling your child. Yeah, yeah. But this, more than anything, is a shining example.

And give us, in my opinion, leverage moving forward to say, absolutely we have to put a penalty in there. And I and I now after what's happened, I think it's going to be really, really hard to argue with that. The Senate, particularly led by former Senator Abby Lee and even the I don't city club that brought in a group who is out of Texas, I can't remember PRC or something like that saying that these private causes of actions, these penalties were only going to create tort claims, which is completely wrong.

It's this just goes to prove we need them. And so I think it gives us huge, I wouldn't even say cover, but the ability to really do this moving forward. So as I told Heather, just the other day, I said, gosh, what a blessing in disguise. So that's the way I look at it. Everybody needs to calm down.

That flag's going to fly for another, what, nine months? And there's going to be a penalty, right? Penalty. The way I'm looking at it, because the city of Boise has actually dissipated quite a number of things. My penalty is in the form of I mean, what do they do us? If we park in one place, they give us a ticket.

What about a $1,000 ticket from state funds, state sales tax funds for every day you fly that flag? Something like that. I see it being resolved quite easily. Barb, I know there may be constitutional questions with this, but if you pass that and I would, I would assume it'll get passed early in the session this next year.

Could you make those penalties retroactive because she knows she's breaking the law. Yeah. True. And she's basically stood up there and taunted it, which to me I wouldn't do. But she's considers like if there's no penalty okay mayor, that can easily be solved. But no, I don't think that you can. But I promise we're looking into it okay.

Currently. All right. We go okay. But anyway, that's my two bits guys. Thank you so much. All right. Thank you for the call. And thanks for all your all your work. So yeah. And that is one way to really look at it because they've already committed they're going to address this. And it probably will be one of the first things that happens I will I can share the person who texted in their frustration that there was no penalty attached to the bill.

I will I wouldn't go to fisticuffs, but I will challenge them. On saying the legislature is an abject failure. They are not. They had a fantastic session this year and got a lot of a lot of great stuff passed. So all right, that's our one. We will break away for the news here really quick. President Trump has ordered flags to be raised at half staff in the wake of Pope Francis's death.

We'll be back. 907 On Newstalk 179. Welcome to our two. If you'd like to reach us, they, number to call (208) 542-1079. That is the Stones Automotive Group call and text line. And our condolences to our Catholic friends today as Pope Francis passed away at the age of 88 last night. These that follows up, I would say months of, failing health.

We went into the the Easter holiday, though he was making public appearances. He did a popemobile tour on Sunday around Vatican City, and thousands and thousands of people were there. And he waved to them and greeted them. He also met with Vice President J.D. Vance, so he had somewhat of a schedule. I don't know how full it was, but, his, health just failed him overnight.

And, he's passed away at the age of 88. And already, Julie, I'm seeing the lineup of all the different Cardinals that could be under consideration to replace the Pope. Yeah, it'll be an interesting next couple of weeks. There was mentioned that by Wednesday, he will be, laying in state our version, you know. Yes. Like, he'll be in a coffin and people will be able to walk past, the morning lasts for nine days.

They'll begin their meetings, much very quickly, right following the funeral. Everyone's going to be there anyway. So that kind of makes sense. Yeah. They'll begin their meetings, and then there is no time frame of when they'll have the conclave. But it should happen pretty quickly. Yeah. Yeah, I do think they try to move pretty quickly on this.

And also I, I think where the death is not that sudden. I mean we didn't know is going to be last night, but it's been on a lot of the Cardinals minds. I would imagine that gives them somewhat of a jump start to be thinking about a replacement as well. So a lot of their thoughts and, and where their heart is on this, as probably already been developed somewhat as they begin the discussion.

I was watching, report on this this morning, and they were talking with someone who had covered the Catholic Church for three decades, so very aware, have gone through other conclaves, understands what's going on. And they ask the question, are there cardinals that have been lobbying for this position? Yeah. And they answered, you know, that's an uncomfortable thing for Catholics to think about.

But the answer is truly yes. There's been plenty of cardinals who have been saying, I'll take it. I'll take it, I'll take it. So there probably is a short list that has already been developed. Do you have to be one of those that I don't know, I don't know how the well, they're going to tell you. The spirit decides anyway.

Well sure. Like this is God's choice, right? Yes, yes. So theoretically. Theoretically. Yeah. But I, I would say from a process standpoint, I would want to choose the reluctant, not the eager. Yeah. I don't know if I, I don't know how they work it, I don't know. So, you know, okay. I just bit my tongue successfully, Julie.

Like, get my filter. Like, I just the majority happens even at age 52. Yeah. It might be maturity. It's just the extra caffeine. I don't know, (208) 542-1079 President Trump has paid tribute to Pope Francis and ordered the flags to be raised to half mast. Perhaps I don't know for how long, but, might coincide with the nine days of mourning.

We'll see. So, we have that. We also have, Senator John Kennedy, and we have the immigration stuff happening. We have that we have, Julie, wait a minute. We have to talk about something. And there's no critique of any local media outlets at all. It's more a critique of Associated Press. They put out this piece about Easter falling on for 20 this year, the marijuana holiday.

For all those who don't know, that was my next yeah, transition was on 420, which means a lot of people who love marijuana were celebrating that instead of celebrating Christ victory over the grave and sin and I feel like that's such a that's a lousy look. What a way to detract from this sacred religious holiday to peddle your garbage about about smoking dope on the same day.

It just just a bad look. I thought it was a bad look by the AP. If I was to talk about that story running in local publications, I'm just a little surprised that you chose to run it because we don't have legalized marijuana here. So it's actually not that relative to Idaho. It isn't relative. And so that was that just was confusing to me.

We don't run. We don't run stories about laws in other states that reflect that state, that don't reflect our state. Yeah. Why are you running a story about it's not a national holiday. It's not it's not recognized. It's it's the unofficial holiday of marijuana smoking issue. It's just kind of weird. Yeah. It it is a weird the and the the instant that I saw this yesterday, I thought, why is that story running today especially.

Okay. So then there's a double layer ain't it's running in a state that doesn't recognize marijuana as legally possible to sell. It's also running regionally in a very religious area. It just didn't match. Yeah. Yeah. It it was. Yeah it was weird. It was, it was a weird weird weird timing. Strange strange placement I thought at that South.

But that's AP you know they, they have more time now that they can't go to the white House and they write stories on marijuana. Are they still banned from the white House? I don't think so. I think they had to come back. Yeah I think at judge, one of the injunctions that is happening, I think a judge said they had to do they still get their their cushy seat or do they just have to stand in the back?

Well, you know, what's happening is that I, Caroline Levitt is just very in control of that room. And when she isn't going to call on you, she isn't going to call on you. And they don't hide it. They just look at you and say, no, no. And I, I mean, this is happening to Caitlin Collins. I sent you a video from a different angle.

It was from another reporter's angle of that brouhaha that happened when the El Salvador president was there, and Kaitlan Collins and the El Salvadoran president had that back and forth. The, the looks that Caitlin Collins is getting from the people in that room are pretty abrupt. Like, you just don't know what when to say. When do you write?

I remember I think the feeling was the same back in Trump's first term with Jim Acosta. When he would not shut up, he just kept asking questions to no great benefit of anyone. And I think people who hated Trump were cheering him on because it was just creating chaos with a thought for for Donald Trump. No, they they were just making CNN look like a jerk.

Yeah, basically. Well, and I think that's what's being accomplished with Kaitlan Collins. She thought she was doing gotcha moments in that exchange from about a week ago. It wasn't. Gotcha. No. You were defending criminals. That's what it looked like to everybody else. Yeah, it it is weird. And, you know, I don't know how many truly courageous journalists we have.

That's not me saying there aren't any. It's just repeatedly asking these questions over and over and over again. That's not courageous. Journalism. That's just pestering. There's a time for it in certain contexts. But in in the context we're talking about, no, you're just being a, you're being a pest. Well, the the irony here is, is if it had been Peter Doocy and Biden and a foreign leader, they would have skewered Peter Doocy.

They would have said he was out of line. And that was disrespectful. And there was a foreign dignitary there. And why are you acting that way? That her own, her own left leaning piers didn't call her out on this at all? Yeah. Yeah. It's true. Yeah. Frustrating. All right. (208) 542-1079. If you'd like to join us for the program this morning, let's talk about your lawn for just a moment.

The four step lawn program in full swing on Neil and Julie's lawns. Right now. We have the roommates down. And in another month or so, step two will go down. That's the first lawn food slash fertilizer step that will help keep the, lawns green and lush all summer long. The hue mates are totally working. How green is your yard?

Oh, yeah. They're great. Looks so good. And you? You're not past the window. Go get it. Go down to town and country. Get the four step lawn program. And we should make you aware that this Saturday, they're having a special event at Town and Country Gardens, where they're unveiling their glow in the dark petunias. It's an evening event.

You can get all of the details at my garden wkyc.com, but they do have a bioengineered petunia that glows in the dark. And you can visit town and country gardens on Saturday and get your very own version of that. South of Idaho Falls, across from the malt plant in Idaho Falls, on the Yellowstone Highway. All right. We'll be back.

It's 917. Hello, Facebook. How are you? Hey, Facebook, how's Easter? So there's a new story out. Apparently, Letitia James may also be guilty of insurance fraud. Oh, geez. This girl's cheating everywhere. Yeah. Letitia repeatedly told banks and the government that her apartment building only had four apartments. In fact, it had five. She had qualified for a low interest residential rate with only four units.

Five apartment units are assigned higher commercial rates. In addition, James obtained a government Hamp loan. Hamp, whatever that is that was not even available to borrowers with more than four units. So she added another layer of the fraud, allegedly. Oh my goodness. Separate from the Brooklyn building, Sam Antar is documented to on his website, white collar fraud, that Letitia James claimed that a home she purchased in Norfolk, Virginia would be her primary residence, a designation that also garners more favorable, favorable loan terms from banks.

Bill Pulte, director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, sent a criminal referral to the US Justice Department, citing these problems in Letitia James mortgage history. Firstly, this regards James claim of residents for a home mortgage in Norfolk, Virginia. Whether a home is owner occupied or not plays a significant role in how insurance companies determine rates for homeowner's insurance.

She may be in big trouble. She's a little dirty, that girl. Yeah, which I will say there is a there's a spirit of revenge in me with this. Like, I look at it and, all the heartburn that she tried to cause. Trump. Oh, yeah, this is karma.

Mike Lee is saying the Trump's birthright citizenship Scotus case could go either way. Let me see if there's be one. What do you think the court is going to be looking at first when they do it? I believe on May 15th. Okay. Let's should we play that? Sure. Okay. Oh, Madison High School closed because of a gas. Ghastly.

We could also talk, Julie, about the Chinese robots in the marathon or the half marathon. Did you see that story? I did not see this story. Yeah, they didn't beat the humans, but they lost by a 921 on Newstalk 107, I, Neil Larson, along with Julie Mason and Madison School District 321. According to, announcements made due to a gas leak at the high school, and out of an abundance of caution, classes at the high school will not be held today.

If there are students involved in extracurricular activities, they can reach out to their coaches for further information. And they do say that classes will resume tomorrow. And if you have a student that's already boarded the bus, the bus driver is going to take them back home after dropping off their their other students if they have them. So, Madison High School closed for the day because, precautionary, measure because of the gas leak.

So that noise you hear is a collective cheer from all the seniors who are so over being at high school. I know they're they're ready to have it done, aren't they? So. Okay, Julie, we have to talk about the, Chinese robots running against humans in a half marathon. Have you heard about this story? I have not heard this story.

So they have these robots that that look human. But they lost by, like, a mile, and, let me pull up this story. The idea of robots taking on humans in a road race conjures dystopian images of android athletic supremacy. Then fear not. For now, at least, more than 22 legged robots competed in the world's first humanoid half marathon in China on Saturday, and though technologically impressive, they were far from outrunning their human masters over the long distance teams from several companies and universities took part in the race, which still boasts them.

The more sophisticated models. And the chief of the winning team said their robot, though bested by the humans in this particular race, was a match for similar models from the West at a time when the race to perfect humanoid technology is heating up. And, they said, hotting up, coming in a variety of shapes and sizes, the robots jog through Beijing's southeastern Yi Shuang district, home to many of the capital's tech firms.

Over the past few months, videos of China's humanoid robots performing bike rides, roundhouse kicks and side flips have blown up the internet, often amplified by state media as a key potential driver of economic growth. So creepy a little, but I've seen some pretty creepy videos of robots and it is. It just feels unnatural to have them acting so human like they look like robots, but they do everything that humans can do.

Yeah, and I think that that would be the weird part of this is that they're running. My question would be why weren't they faster? Because I think if you were to ask 100 people at a big box store, did the robots, when I think most of them would have said yes. Yeah, that's true because of Hollywood. Yeah. So why didn't they?

When is it because they had to be so bulky for, for charging purposes, like to keep them maybe with power. Yeah. And and maybe they've got them only at a, they can only, only run at a certain pace the way they're geared or engineered maybe any faster. They have balance issues. Hey I don't yeah I don't know either.

Although I will say this, it's still very early on. I would bet you if you give it 5 or 10 years, those robots will beat every human. I'm sure they will. Just give it time. Yeah, I'm sure they will. All right. Is that a is that a future you fear like I? Because I will say this. And you know who who knows with quantum computing, mass production, economies of scale, all of that.

How far away are we from just having a robot at our home, doing our cleaning, mowing our lawns? Doing a Rosie? Yeah, right. Exactly. Like I, I, I look forward to that day. I'll, I think we'll definitely get there where robots will be mowing your lawn. And I think that, that absolutely can happen. It does make me a little nervous and there would be people who love technology who would say that's stupid because there were people that were scared of inventions that we have now that are just regular.

So get on board with it, and I get that it's going to happen whether or not I'm nervous or not. So, is there an added creep factor? Because anatomically they're built like humans. They have legs with hinges where our joints are and arms with hinges where joints are. They even have something that looks like a hat. Like is is the fact that they look kind of look like us and they're movements mimic human movement?

Is that for me that adds the creep factor when you if you were to compare it to like art, R2d2 doesn't creep me out. C3po kind of creeps me out, right? Yeah, I was back to Rosie the made from Jetsons. Yeah, she looked like a giant vacuum cleaner. Yeah, right. So she wasn't that creepy. And that was probably friendly to kids in the cartoon.

But I think if there was something that could potentially even be bigger than me walking around my house, would you want that robot to accidentally feel like they were commanded to do something in? They're standing by your bed in the middle of the night, and you wake up in that robot standing there, right? Strangling you or. Terrifying. Yeah, trying to make your bed while you're in it.

Yeah, maybe I think when you're a small woman that that probably lingers in your mind a little more than it does a little terrifying, but, yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It's, there's good and bad in the what's coming. In, in our, in our future. Yeah. But I remember she's it was probably what a year and a half ago we were having extensive conversations about ChatGPT and about jobs that were going to go away.

And we were saying it's here, so figure it out and use it to your benefit and blah, blah, blah. You and I use ChatGPT almost every day. Oh yeah, all the time. All the time. It's become one of my best friends. He gets advice from ChatGPT. Yeah. He asks what he should have for dinner. Yeah, yeah. No, it's it's a it's definitely a changing world.

Yeah. That are better to embrace it I guess, than to just let's hear wish it used to be the way it used to be. Zoom there a 927 news talk 107 nine Neil Larson along with Julie Mason. If you'd like to join us, Senator Mike Lee is weighing in on President Trump's birthright citizenship case before the Supreme Court.

Here's what he told Jason Chaffetz on Fox News. Yeah, look, Jason, this is a fascinating case. It's a closed case. It can be one. No one knows the outcome for sure. But one thing that's important for everyone to keep in mind, this case is not about whether birthright citizenship exists, nor does it undermine the 14th Amendment's, birthright citizenship promise.

This is rather about what the contours of birthright citizenship look like. Whether or not you can be someone who is born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, it's that second phrase in the 14th amendment, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, that we're looking at here. What President Trump has done is issued an executive order directing agencies prospectively not to recognize the birthright citizenship of people born after the moment of this, orders issuance, saying that they won't be recognized as birthright citizens unless at the time of their birth, they had at least one parent who was either a citizen or a lawful permanent resident.

And so this is a close question. Is it a debatable, case? And I think it could go either way. I look forward to hearing the arguments, and I hope that the Supreme Court will sustain what President Trump's trying to do to clean up this invasion that President Biden invited into our country. That's the most important point of all.

This is another mess that, the Biden's making that Trump is having to clean up. I think this is, a, a politically intelligent move on on my part. If he's going to be asked this question, then he needs to make sure his answer isn't that he's a Supreme Court, quote unquote denier, because that's definitely going on right now.

There are people saying the entire Supreme Court is compromised, that we only have two solid judges, even though Republicans or conservatives have a majority on the court, there's plenty of people saying it's compromised and I can get why. When presented with this question, Mike Lee is taking a more measured approach. Yeah. And saying it could go either way.

That's probably not comforting to conservatives. They feel like they've taken a few losses with the Supreme Court lately. Yeah, I think so too. Is there also, while you were talking and this is the direction I thought you might go, but Mike Lee could be sitting on that court. Absolutely. So there might be a good reason why he's not going to give a definitive here's how this has to go.

And instead he's sort of giving a very neutral that could go either way. And he might be preserving his neutrality for any future consideration for the court. I think that's very possible, which would be a smart move on his part. Like yeah, you make the media hit and you don't want to be boastful and say, well, I might be sitting on that court, so I'm going to, you know, I, I think he's just smart saying, oh, this could go either way.

Yeah, I think so too. And like I said, I don't think that that's probably very satisfying for people who are at this point frustrated with the Supreme Court if you're a conservative. But it is what it is. And, here's what I would say to the people who are really frustrated with Supreme Court is if you're going to applaud and celebrate the unusual ways or the non-typical ways that Trump has decided to run this presidency, which both you and I have done.

We appreciate the speed, we love the decision making. We love that we're we're tired of messing around. We're going to get this done. Yeah. You're going to ruffle some feathers of people who like it to go slow and like it, to have thoughtful conversation. Yeah. And and like it to be the speed of Washington. And that includes some people on the court.

So if you're going to celebrate Donald Trump, understand that there's going to be reaction by other people who have lived this their whole adult lives in this bubble in DC, and that terrifies them to have it moving at that speed. For you and me, we're happy, but we don't live there. Yes. We don't. We do other jobs. We don't play by those rules.

Yeah, that's true. The people who are listening to us work in the private sector, and they have to make decisions within minutes sometimes. Yeah, it takes DC six months to decide what to do with a a simple budget line. Item eight. Oh I know, so just understand the, the atmosphere that they're working under. It's like a married couple trying to figure out what to have for dinner.

It's worse than that. Yeah. All right. 932 (208) 542-1079. We'll be back after this. Okay. Oh goodness. Yeah. I wrote in the description for today's Facebook that it was the post-holiday hangover. And I feel like both you and I are doing that. We've got a little bit of a hangover going on. Yeah. The find that, Oh. You know what?

I think it's actually in a thread of an ex that you sent. Oh, I didn't read the piece on, Jordan Redman. Did you read it? I didn't, I actually sent that this was it this morning. Our way late last night. I just saw it. Yeah. My take from the headline on Redman. Yeah, was if the Idaho Statesman is already doing a piece on him, they're scared.

I would agree with that. That's true. Yeah, I that same I mean, he's fairly new. The guy never tires. No, strong family man. He's everything they don't like. Yeah. Oh, okay. So this is the, the law title 18 crimes and Punishments. Oh, about. Yeah, yeah. You know which one you're referencing? Nature and extent of punishment in general.

Omission of public duty. Every willful omission to perform any duty enjoined by law upon any public officer or person holding any public trust or employment where no special provisions shall have been made for the punishment of such to leak, delinquency is punishable as a misdemeanor. It is that section of the law still active, because sometimes they pass laws that can then be yeah, null and void based upon a new law.

Yeah. Yes. And so I don't know, it, it sounds like it would apply in this case. But I don't know that it will. Does that to say 2019. Where that letter. So are you in the one that I sent you where it says it's calling out Raleigh Obrador. And then there's a letter from Lawrence and. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Does that say 2019? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. It's a good question. I mean, it's worth asking. And I actually don't think this would be a question that Raul Labrador would find offensive. No, he likes that long. Yeah. I, I think there's lawyers who actually don't enjoy being lawyers. And don't enjoy the law. I, Raul Labrador likes the law.

He likes the the meat of it like. Yeah, yeah he does he he gets into that which I think most attorneys general probably do. Because they're, they're, they're probably they could probably make a lot more money in the private sector but they. Okay. Here we go. 937 on Newstalk 1079 on this Monday morning. And this is getting shared quite widely on social media.

Julie is part of Idaho's code title 18 Crimes and Punishments, chapter three Nature and Extent of Punishment in general. And I should say this, this is in the context of Boise Mayor Lauren McClain breaking the law by flying the rainbow flag. Omission of public duty, every willful omission to perform any duty enjoined by law upon any public officer or person holding any public trust or employment, where no special provisions shall have been made for the punishment of such delinquency is punishable as a misdemeanor.

We don't know if this provision is still active or not. However, if, a very straightforward, plain reading of this law looks like it would apply in this particular case that basically this is the catchall. If you have any laws that don't contain, punishment to them, they default to being a misdemeanor, which I it would be interesting to have Attorney General, Labrador with us in the room to, to maybe explain if this is, if this is a provision of the law that could be used in this situation, it would also be interesting to know if this has been enacted in other locations in Idaho, like what's precedents.

Yeah. With using this. So the follow up to this is and and I frequently ask ChatGPT these questions. So maybe we can do that on the commercial break is if it's punishable as a misdemeanor what's the fine. Yeah. And and if that is that fine a one time fine. Is it a fine by day. Is it of like what's the fine.

Yeah. For because different misdemeanors can have different fines and sentences. So if it's a simple $50 charge or whatever then she doesn't care. She'll take it. She'll open up her own wallet and pay that as a. Yeah, that's a token of a virtue. Right. Yeah. That's that that's a good point. And can you be jailed for it.

Yeah. She could face jail time which would probably end up helping her more than hurting her. So yeah I think it goes back and I appreciate that. Representative Ehrhardt called the show last hour to give some clarification that the silver lining in all of this is now the legislature. You know, there is a lot of whining and moaning over this, this right of action.

And like, you can sue the library if they peddle porn to your kid that it that the law like, proactively states that you're able to do that. I think there there's a pushback against that from Democrats and some squishy Republicans. And I think this is a good example of why you've got to include some kind of punitive action if you're going to pass a law for anyone in Idaho saying you need to do it.

The early part that we've been talking about, yeah, again, she's right. I did appreciate her phone call to that. Now, this actually kind of gives them the legitimate legitimacy to put that in. I know they don't want it said that way. Yeah, but it's part of an ongoing argument. And before her phone call, I had said the the pawn in library bill, it would have been passed the first year if there had been no punishment attached to it.

Yeah. The big heartburn for everybody was that initially it was far too aggressive, the punishment was far too aggressive, and people were like, chill. The librarians are like the yeah, the freak out that was, that was had by the left. So yeah, the reasons are being laid out by the mayor of Boise for why we need to have some sort of punishment there.

True. In in a sense, she's giving us an argument. Yeah. To to put that in there. So thank you, mayor McClain. Yeah. And I mean, basically, Representative Hart said it's not going to be enjoyable to have that flag flying for the next nine months, but we'll survive. Yeah, that's true. We'll survive. And and then there will be a penalty put in and she will have to take it out.

Well you're invited I this is what I don't understand. And I don't know if it's an infantile reaction on McLean's part. I there are so many ways that you can virtue signal that are not in violation of this law that was just passed and that is fresh on everyone's minds. Like you, there are other things that you can do to say, we care about everyone in Boise, including LGBTQ, people like you.

You don't have to choose the one illegal route to convey that message to people in Boise. Well, she already does those other things, right? She shows up at every rally. She's at Pride Days like she has those people surrounding her all of the time. She's already represent those people pretty heavily. Yeah, in comparison to her other constituents. So really, she's just thumbing your nose at the Idaho Legislature?

Yeah, that's what it is. It's a it's a double middle finger at them, which I don't think ultimately it may feel good right now. And it's easy to, you know, stand on that pedestal. I don't think it turns out well for her at all. Yeah. Look at Marlene Trump. She, she finally left because she tried to do the same thing at Boise State and realized this is not an ecosystem that's friendly to people like like what I'm trying to say.

Not super enjoyable. Yeah. To far leftists and so. Well we'll see. And and apparently this whole bumper sticker ethic of coexisting, we're not able to do that. Apparently. Well, the bumper sticker theme sounds good on the bumper sticker. They don't believe it. Yeah. They don't they don't want to coexist. They want you, me, anybody else who doesn't belong to their group to change to them?

Yeah. That's not coexisting. Yeah. Basically the coexist bumper sticker is actually a lie. It's a fraudulent tagline. Yeah. It's a fraudulent tagline for a movement that actually doesn't have a place for me to be a straight white woman, and for you to be a straight white male. Yeah, I'm also Christian that make it out that to add that, to add that to the list part of a nuclear family.

Add that to it. Yeah that's true. Then the carbon footprint that I mean, I brought five kids into this world. How dare you I know, can you believe it? I know it's crazy. I'm the Sasquatch of carbon footprint. Oh. There's so many. Do I know right?

All right, 944 I knew 1079. Let's take a break. We'll come back after this.

So, do you think now, another thing this does is it ensures that the legislature, when they pass these laws in the future, they do add a penalty. I think that will happen. I think they need I, I feel like I'm this is not really harsh criticism because I don't think there is some option is unreasonable that if you are a public official, you're elected especially and you've taken an oath to uphold the law that you're actually going to do it.

Like I, I feel like if that's what Heather Scott was assuming, that's not unreasonable for her to to do that, that if you're going to be grown up enough to be the mayor of Idaho's largest city, you're also going to be grown up enough to say sometimes things don't go the way that I'd like them, but I love the law anyway, and I'll uphold it.

She's not there. Yeah. She's not. She is not mature enough to be that way. That's the word I was just going to use. I think if you put listed attributes of people who belong to the LGBTQ movement, maturity wouldn't be among them. Yeah, right. Well, especially for the, for the straight liberal. So so-called advocates. They just they have to have everything their way, the way that they want it.

And it's, it's infantile. It feels like a bunch of little kids stomping their feet. Right. Yeah. And I would, I would mourn I don't, I don't know what the word is but remind Republicans don't fall into that. Don't be those people. Yeah. Because we can be on conservative sites too. So. So don't be those people. Yeah. Because I think you you automatically lower your IQ points even if you are a very intelligent person.

Yeah. The perceived IQ goes down and you don't want that. You've worked really hard to become a smart adult. Yeah. And then the perceived maturity goes down. And you don't want that either. Yeah. Yeah you're right you don't. But like attracts like. And so I think if it's the infantile people that think it's okay to just ignore laws you don't like, they support her in that because she's like that too.

So can Embraco Garcia, can his wife go be with him in El Salvador and kids? Is that something El Salvador would allow? You know, I don't know. That's a good question. Do you think she'd want to? Well, if she loves her husband. Yeah. I mean, she's scared to death right now. I think she probably is, too. I, I was thinking about her the other day.

I don't know what a good decision is for her. Yeah, I don't either. Do you stand up and support him? Do you let your side? I don't know. Can you hide? Yeah. From Ms. 13. I don't know. And do you want your kids around that. Yeah.

949 on Newstalk 1078. So I was in a, criminal computer gang slash cults growing up called mS-DOS.

Like you had you had no choice. Like there wasn't anything else. I actually think you were like the board of directors or something. You were on there. You you were saying, yes, I do. You know, and not not really. But, anyway, welcome back to 085421079. You know, there's dad jokes and then there's just geek stupid jokes.

So, someone texted this. Julie, if the tables were turned in, something I was in favor of was suddenly illegal, I would probably be way more inclined to do that thing just to be obnoxious. Like the truck not staying. What does that mean? The truck not staying? Like the truck not staying. I'm seriously tempted to get some now.

Like the truck. Send a text clarifying what you meant by that. But I understood the first part that if you if you like something and then the legislature says you can't do that thing you like, and especially when there's no punishment attached to it, are you more likely to keep doing that thing like your it's your push back because there's no punishment attached.

Okay. So I'm going to I'm going to admit to breaking the law of a law I don't like, which is remember when they said the cell phones couldn't be in your hands at all? That was the new law. Yes, I do, and at that time my mother was alive. Yeah. And the only way I could hear my mother in my car is to have my phone to my ear.

Okay. Yeah. She's suffering from cancer. Yeah, I at any given moment, I was going to get a phone call that she was passing, which actually happened while we were on air, like, yeah, I was working that morning. Yeah. So I did I break that law. Yeah. But I broke that law understanding that if I get pulled over, I get pulled over.

And that's just how it's going to be. Yeah. And so that's the part of this that I don't like is that she knows she's breaking the law. She's doing interviews with TV stations saying, you're darn right I'm going to break the law. Yeah. She's standing out there on Easter Sunday taking down the hefty bags covering her flag. And yet she, like she isn't looking at it from a place like I was.

Well, okay, I guess something will have to happen to me if I break the law. If I do, I do. She's looking at it like I dare you. Yeah, I absolutely dare you. Okay, so yeah, I and I think that is exactly what they're doing. Someone texted in and said they ain't meant the truck nuts. Do you remember you to be gone?

No, no, no, I remember you were here. Okay. So there is a bit of a difference here. Okay? The truck, the dangles. All right. The danglers, I think I call them danglers on the air. Those were not explicitly banned. That was, I think, the Idaho capital, San, stretching it to a ridiculous point. Cops are now out looking to nab people that have the danglers on their jacked up four by fours.

Yes. Yeah, they were saying though, if you if you want to interpret this law literally, you could use this law to go after the danglers res. Okay. This law specifically says you can only fly these flags. That's it. You can't fly any others. So there's the law is more explicit in mayor McClain's case than it is in a media generated outrage.

Look, the cops are not going to be like, I got to pull that guy over because he's got the, you know, danglers going that it's a, it's a it's apples and oranges. Yeah. There's a very maybe I shouldn't use spherical objects to say, but yes. Gotcha. What were you going to say. Sorry. Again for the second time this hour, there's so many jokes that I cannot say that I know.

I know, what was I going to say? Because now the jokes are running through my mind. Oh, I was going to say that the boundaries of this law are very clear. And by the way, she's not even trying to she knows she's outside of the boundaries. She's not trying to increase the boundaries, going, oh, I have a right to do this.

No, no no no, she that's true. She's fully admitting I'm breaking the law. Yeah. You're right, you're right. She is. Yeah. There is no, no ambiguity here. She. Yeah. And she knows she's breaking the law. Yeah. You know, I go back to that interview with CBS news that she did. Maybe I'll play it here in a second.

Again, it's kind of infuriating how that is the elephant in the room. Legislature passed a law. You're in clear violation of it. And she goes to these bromides of, we want everyone to feel welcome here in Boise. Okay? Lots of ways to make people feel welcome in Boise. And, you're acting like you have to have this one way to make people feel welcome in Boise.

If that's true, number one, you are about the least imaginative person ever. And, just state what you're doing. Say, I don't give a crap what the legislature thinks. I'm a far woke leftist and I'm going to keep doing this. Right. Well, and I think she she's her body language, her words and everything. They're actually portraying that because when you say it's always been this way, it's her version of that's not the point, Paul.

Yeah. This is it's her going. It's always been this way. So just shut up now. It hasn't always been this way. No, you haven't always had this flag flying. So don't say it's always been this way. Yeah. And you're right. She just she's she's fronting that well. Good people would do this when we know when was Boise incorporated.

And I have a clue. Hold on please hold up. Okay. Where are you now. And I need your copilot. Come on man. And let's see. Date of incorporation. Now I'm just getting Secretary of state website. It doesn't matter. Let's say Boise's been around for a hundred years. Okay? Okay. They've been flying the rainbow flag for less than 10% of that.

Yes. Amount of time. Yeah, but she's going to she's going to go on an interview and and make you talk down to you, be condescending to you and just go. It's always been this way. Yeah, I know it. It makes no sense. So, 1863, it's been around for, 160 years. Julie. Wow. It's not always been this way.

Yeah. It's true. All right, let's talk really quick about, the glow in the dark petunias. They're coming. April 26th. That's a Saturday night, 6 to 10 p.m.. You'll want to be at Town and Country Gardens. They're they're going to have music. They're going to have food trucks. It's going to be a big event. And most importantly your chance to buy the Firefly Petunia, which is a glow in the dark petunia.

Super cool. You can learn all about it at my Garden geek.com. That's the official website for Town and Country Garden. So super easy website to navigate. And when you go there right now, that Petunia event is right. You can't. It's front page. You don't even have to go searching for it. So all the details are there. There's also a chance to get a VIP ticket if you sign up for the newsletter.

So that's another reason to go to my garden wkyc.com and sign up for their newsletter. And as a side note, I get the newsletter. I'm sure you get the newsletter. It's super informative. Yeah, so it's just a nice thing to have lots of cool stuff. And of course, get your four step lawn program and all your lawn and garden needs at the At Town and Country Garden south of Idaho Falls on the Yellowstone Highway, across from the malt plant.

And, Julie, we have a. Oh, they just hung up. I was going to shoot. I was going to give them the line. You're going to get the last word on the show. And you hung up. Right. Well, there's always tomorrow, but we'll we'll be talking about Danglers tomorrow. Probably not talking about danglers tomorrow. Probably will, will not be so.

All right. 958 on Newstalk 179. That's going to do it for the program today. Be sure and join us. We'll have the latest on what's happened with Pope Francis, who, of course, passed away overnight at the age of 88. It seems like we're having every day or every other day a development in this Boise Flag fiasco.

We'll talk about that. And, all the other news ahead. Anything else? Final words of wisdom to impart. To have any wisdom. Beloved audience, ration out your candy. Don't eat it all in one sitting. Half our audience just went too late. It's already gone. See you all tomorrow.