3.18.2025 -- NLS -- Clough, Immigration, and America’s Law Dilemma

 On this episode with Neal and Julie, they dive into the complexities of immigration policy, particularly regarding prenatal care for undocumented immigrants. They discuss Representative Carlo Clough’s stance on government-funded prenatal care and debate the broader implications of incentivizing illegal immigration. Neal and Julie also explore the role of law and order, questioning how long lawlessness can persist before lawfulness itself becomes a risk. The conversation shifts to politics, touching on the Democratic Party’s struggles with leadership turnover and the Republican Party’s appeal to younger voters. They also analyze the situation in El Salvador regarding deportation and the legal challenges surrounding it. Wrapping up, they reflect on the financial and moral dilemmas of government-funded healthcare for non-citizens, emphasizing the need for balanced policy solutions. 

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Transcript

All right. Someone tell me. Date certain when the alien enemies act expired. Anyone? Anyone? Good morning. It's Tuesday. Welcome to the Neil Larson show. Of course, March madness begins to get, well, crazy this week, of course. And I've already filled out one of my brackets. Julian, I usually organize the annual bracket challenge here at Sand Hill with our art groups, and I fill the bracket out, and I'm.

I'm not quite sure, how this one's going to turn out, although I do want to comment very briefly. We're not a sports talk station, so we're not going to spend a ton of time on this. But this story, about the University of North Carolina ad getting a bonus if USC makes it into the tournament and making a decision about who gets into the tournament.

In what worlds is that okay? How how does that crap even happen? Because now you're in. This is not like it was an unavoidable once in a while you have a situation. Well, it's kind of unavoidable. Well, no, the instant part of your contract is, hey, you get $104,000 bonus if your college or university gets in that disqualifies you from sitting on the selection committee.

Is am I wrong? Am I not seeing something here? I you go to this guy named Bubba, but could you get a more good Ole boy name than Bubba anyway? So Bubba is the guy's name Bubba Cunningham. And that's exactly the situation. He gets 104 grand if unk makes the NCAA tournament, that's a that's a month's salary for him.

And there's another $225,000 in bonuses in play based on what happens in the tournament. Well, you know what? We ought to just give him a referee uniform, let him ref some of those games that unk is in. But I like I'm like, why put this cloud of air over it? I and I think part of my frustration is for years that we had people making decisions about who was the big time college national champion in football and all of us over here who were big fans of ISU and the big Sky were like, yeah, we have a tournament.

Tournaments are, you know, you can't rig that. You just and the other, and finally, big time college football relented and said, okay, we'll have a hybrid. And they went ahead and did a tournament which I think brought legitimacy to them in a so but having said that, we're still having a tournament, not all of that goes away.

But when they start throwing shade on the ethics of of how these teams are selected, then it just it kind of sours in Indiana. A lot of people are saying, no, Indiana ought to be the playing team, and they should be the ones where North Carolina is right now. And you have to wonder, does that $104,000 bonus, play into it?

So we had that controversy. I'll I'll sit that dish on the table and, we have another dish that we want to set on the table here where. And it's called illegal immigration. This may be the main dish today. We'll see. But Caroline Leavitt is basically telling illegals across America, and she's the mouthpiece of the president of the United States to self-deport just just self-deport that's probably your best option right now.

Biden administration abused to facilitate the mass illegal entry of illegal immigrants into our country. It was like a Fastpass at Disneyland. That's not happening under this administration. We are encouraging illegal immigrants to actively self-deport, to maybe save themselves from being in one of these fun videos. I'm sure John. Okay, so the videos have that song closing time, that song and one of the lines from Closing Time is, you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.

We just need you to leave the country. And, you know, leading up to the election and certainly leading up to the inauguration, I said a handful of times that after you have allowed lawlessness long enough, lawfulness starts to fear will not starts. It will feel like authoritarianism for a while, because you're not used to it. It feels like oppression.

It feels like a heavy hand. It feels like totalitarianism. And we. This is, by the way, the tentacles of this issue are reaching all the way into Idaho. A bill that was put forward and passed in the House by Redmond. Jordan Redmond removes welfare for illegals. Basically, if you're here illegally, you don't get to feed at the tax payer money trough, no medical benefits, no snap.

And apparently it even goes as far as you can't even eat at a soup kitchen that gets government funding. Now that might feel like whoa. And by the way, this is not a burden on illegals. This is a burden on the soup kitchen, essentially saying you cannot feed people who are here illegally if you're taking taxpayer funding. It's the so-called strings attached, dynamic going on.

And you have lawmakers, even squishy Republicans that are like, oh, I don't know how I feel about that. One of them, Representative Carlo Clough, Clover Clough, he thinks that we should continue to fund prenatal care for illegals here in the United States. Let me play that clip. Really quickly for you. Here's Clough, then. On one hand, my wife is delivering food through a food kitchen, and they may get food that she's not even aware of.

That came from a tax provided system, and she could be breaking the law. And then the other thought that I have is most of the people in this room believe, and it's pro-life and. Right. Life begins at conception. Yeah. We are going to deny prenatal care to someone that conceived while they were in the United States. Okay, I have to stop right there.

I didn't make this connection earlier. I just, I apparently I have to hear three things three times in order to make a connection. Being pro-life does. How does that translate? Sometimes liberals drive me batty. How does that translate into, well, if I'm pro-life, then the government ought to pay for all pregnancy related care. Who makes that leap? Who?

Only people that think that the government needs to be part of everybody's life equation. And I don't mean we need roads in defense. I'm not talking about that. I mean, if you're pro-life, then the government needs to pay for your baby. Or if you're pro-life, the government needs to pay for everyone else's babies. And the care and the pregnant that who made that and as though the only alternative to not getting government provided prenatal care is to abort the baby.

Okay, I I'll be honest with you. I have a lot of respect for people who serve in the legislature and do so with civility because I feel like I, I don't know how long I, I could, I could probably manage for a week or two without losing it. But at some point if I took to the House floor, I would respond with, that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

And then I would get gavel down because Gaveled down by Speaker Moyle because he would say there does not fit the decorum of this great body, and we'd ask for you to not speak like that, you know that. And I just I probably wouldn't, survive very well. But this is a non sequitur. This is a point that might be in the neighborhood of a pro-life issue, but the complete lack of logic here, they said, well, I thought I thought our friends were pro-life here.

And, you know, the there are people who are undocumented and they're getting prenatal care, and we should continue to pay for the print. No, no, I mean, the reason why, I don't know, I can't speak for all of it, but let's look at it from 30,000ft. Part of the reason that we have had a problem with illegal immigration is a border issue, and it's creating an environment that is a very soft place to land in America.

That is the prop that is feeding the bears at Yellowstone. That is the thing. No, they're not animals. So stop it. Don't. I'm not I'm not making that. I'm not making, comparison of identical ality here. But I am saying that that rewards system, that incentivizing system creates a very unhealthy relationship. So you might think that it's draconian to say, soup kitchens.

You can't you can't feed illegals with, with your food. I think it's probably more no, you can't get federal funding if you're feeding illegal immigrant populations, not federal, excuse me, taxpayer funds if you are, feeding illegal, immigrant populations. Also, it creates an incentive when we start saying, you know, what, if you want to have a baby, come to America will pay for it.

I mean, that's essentially what Chloe's saying, that, you know, he's not saying it that blatantly or that bluntly, but that's the situation that that, is created by this at some point, if we want to truly address the issue, America cannot be a soft place for lawbreakers. It just can't be. And I know you might think, well, that's mean and that's mean.

It's really not it. It's what must be. It's sort of like, imagine if you are a a high school or college basketball coach and you told your players, you know what, we want you to come here. And I know running the running laps, going through your drill, that's hard. I don't want you to go through that. So we're just going to sit on the bleachers and we're gonna eat Snickers bars, and we're going to talk about basketball, and hopefully we're going to win the championship this year.

You can't do it like that. And it's the same way with, illegal immigration if you just are soft all the time, people never rise and and raise their level of self expectation if you just make everything easy for them. So I do think that it makes sense to remove these incentives. Now, I do not want any kid going hungry.

And I don't believe that, you know, I think especially in emergency or, or complicated pregnancy situations then. Yeah, there we probably had to find a way to get care. I, I'm not walking away from the humanity part of this, but there are a lot of charitable organizations that can step up and help feed hungry children, regardless of their their status is sort of irrelevant.

But this constant, constant siphoning from taxpayer resources to do this is something that you at some point you do have to put a stop to it. So I'm, in in favor of this, and I hope it happens. And I hope that it works. We also have one more. I want to I want to, Tom Homans, national treasure.

I want you to listen to this. You have the, the this law that goes back to the earlier part of our country that was passed in order for to give the president the authority to deal with, well, aggressive alien. What is it called? Alien invader? No, that sounds like the Independence Day movie. No. This is a way for the president to deal with people who create a hostile incursion into the country.

And I don't know how you could better put on display a hostile incursion into the country, then to have violent Venezuelan gangs come in, that this is a very clear use. And if it's complicated or if you think you're not reading the law and you're interpreting it your own way, but here's home. And here's what he had to say when some reporter parroted the Democrat talking point about, well, this law is really old, you say to those who claim you're using a 200 year old law to circumvent and no law not as old as Constitution.

We still pay attention that, don't we? But some would say this is blah blah blah blah blah blah. But some would say but some would know. I'm saying this because I want to make the point, but I want to still function as a reporter. So I'm going to say some people say no, the law never got, it didn't have an expiration date on it.

It's not like a gallon of milk. The law is the law. Now, I would hope that even though the First Amendment was written in seven 1880, it may have been written before it was ratified in 1786. I think I may be historically wrong right in there somewhere, in the 1780s. And, even though the Second Amendment.

I mean, what's the argument here? And I'm, I'm going to press this issue. What is the argument? What? And is that actually a legal argument to make that argument here, a law that was brought into play a long time ago, when did it expire? When was it repealed? When did it become no longer effective? And if you're going to make the case that it's no longer effective because it's old, then you need to tell me what was that demarcation point of it being a law to it being not a law?

It's not enough. It's not good enough for you to make it. Just simply say, well, it's old, it has dust on it, I don't care, has dust on it. Let me put a hammer on the shelf. For 50 years it had dust on it. You can test it off and it works just fine as, as far as I know, the law is still the law, no matter how old it is.

And just because it hasn't been invoked or used or, whatever the case may be, it doesn't really. That's not really even a relevant point. Yeah. I mean, I hate to break it to you. Laws don't expire themselves just because they're old. We'll be back after this on Newstalk 179. We'd love to hear from you. By the way, the Stones Automotive group calling text line is (208) 542-1079.

All right. It's 829 on Newstalk 107. I, Neil Larson along with Julie Mason on this Tuesday. And you look like one of those clapping monkeys. Clapping monkey. Yeah. Anyway, welcome back. (208) 542-1079 that is the Stones Automotive Group call and text line. And, someone was it in the text? It was in the text here. I'll read it.

Okay. It says the North Carolina ad. Bubba. Bubba recused himself from all discussion involving the team. He answered that question during the selection show. Okay. I'm not surprised that he recused himself with the discussion. That's that's not what's under review here. He knows these people. He knows them well. He shares texts and emails with this selection committee. There could have been a designed, hey, you do this, vote for me this way.

I give you this far before the committee meeting even happened. Yeah, he shouldn't be involved in it in any way. Like recusal from discussion. That's okay. That doesn't mean there weren't text exchanges prior to the actual selection committee meeting. Did he vote? I don't know the answer that I'm going to guess. No, I'm going to guess he didn't get a vote in it.

But even with that, if you can get other people to vote NC and for you, just your presence is something to like. Yeah, it's just that's a lot of complication that I don't think the selection committee should bring upon themselves. No, I, I would agree with you. I would agree with you. Do better. It says I have a compromise to abortion.

This is on that legislative issue we're talking about. And, Clough thinks and it is cloud run, right? Yeah. Somebody somebody said it rhymes with cow. Yeah. So Clough is saying that we ought to pay for the prenatal care for illegals. Okay. And he wants to continue doing that. And someone said I have a compromise to abortion, which is I'd be willing to for the government to pay for contraception for any woman who wants it.

If I understand Idaho's laws, it's pretty darn easy to get contraception at this point. Very, very easy. Yeah. And, I agree, I think that this is a good compromise. However, one of the reasons that women come here and conceive a baby is that baby gets to have a different status if born in America. Yeah. There's actually this concept of trying to get pregnant just prior to coming over the border.

So that your baby can be born on American soil and belong to all of the social welfare programs, because by degrees you are a beneficiary of those social welfare programs. Yeah. Also. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. So the baby gets a different status and gets to belong to the social welfare programs, especially in states like California.

And just as a, you know, as the mother that first removed from the baby, you also get to be involved in social welfare programs. Yeah. Yeah. No that's a yeah I for me I, it's easy to say well this is a tough issue. It's really not like if you, if you go back and if you argue. Yeah. Are standing policy should be we will pay for your baby if you come here illegally which is what I was arguing for.

That's that's not a good policy. No. Well it's it's another layer of incentive. It's like the cell phone. Yeah. And like I said this is already happening. This isn't an introduction of oh if we do it this way this is going to be incentives for women to have babies. Inside U.S borders. This has been going on for years.

Yeah. Well, okay. Let me let me say it like this. Because the way he presented the discussion, if you present the pregnant woman first, then you feel like, oh, we need to pay for it. Right. Yes. If, if you're, if it's in your mind pregnant woman. Likely poor. We need to help pay for that for that baby.

But if you look at it from just a sheer broader policy standpoint, how is that distinguishable from, you know what come here illegally and we'll pay for your pregnancy. There's no distinction there. But when I say it like that, the second time people would be like, yeah, that's absurd. That's an absurd policy to offer free health care. If you come here illegally, that will pay for your baby.

So he he's using the emotional route, which is let's get the pregnant woman in people's minds first. And therefore they come to this with their their hearts are bleeding. And I'm looking at it from a standpoint of what is a sustainable situation in America for the years to come. Yes. And and I think I think if you want to manage this, this situation, whatever you call it, you have to look at it from that broader perspective moving forward.

And also reviewing it from the broader perspective. Because not even included in this argument is what I'm about to say. But it does cloud all of the immigration argument and quite honestly, clouds the abortion argument and other arguments, which is you need to learn to take care of yourself. It is not an abortion clinics job to make a decision for you.

That should have been made prior. Yeah. And don't come at me with the rape and incest and the murder. It is a very it's at a fraction of a percentage of the, abortions the Planned Parenthood conducts. Yes. Okay. Yeah. And there are exceptions for those. So don't the what I'm saying is, is that what cloud to these arguments is people need to learn to make healthy decisions for themselves.

Yes. Yeah. Taking the risk of having a baby as an illegal immigrant immigrant is not a healthy decision. Yeah. You're looking for someone else to take care of you having unprotected sex, knowing that, hey, Planned Parenthood will cover me if I get pregnant is not a healthy decision. Yeah, we need to be more independent. Well, we we do.

And and I think there's a false choice fallacy here, too, that it's somewhere between either aborting the baby or the government has to pay for all of it. Why is cloud putting that forward that the only alternative to abortion which the pro-life crowd finds repulsive. Yeah. Is the government pays for everything. Yes. Okay. No I, the government would pay and I think everyone would be on board that if a pregnant woman is about to give birth, then we need to make sure that that baby comes into the world safely and that we're, you know, the mother's life is preserved and emergent care.

But is arguing that it should be a full slate of prenatal, care from conception to birth. And that's the that is the I think that's the problem and that's that middle ground where it's not this two, two choices between two extremes. Look I don't like the government bailing anybody out ever. Like have I ever from this microphone supported the fact that the government bails out the airline industry and the auto industry on a regular basis.

No they shouldn't have to take those risks all on their own. Private business owners take those risks all of the time. Yeah. I don't think that we should be bailing out people who take the risk of being an illegal immigrant. Yeah, and that sounds heartless and cruel. I'm asking you to remove your emotions and understand the situations that we're placed in due to these people's bad decisions.

Yes. So, question. And this may be one of those middle ground questions, because a lot of these women came here, let's say they came here under the Biden administration thinking, oh, yeah, they'll take going to be, well, everything's going to pay for it. Do we need to finish the obligations they felt they had when they came here?

Like, was that an implied promise to them? But moving forward, if you came here after date, certain you don't get it? Yes. I've always been very accurate with this too. You cannot put the toothpaste back in the tube. We have to suffer the repercussions of four years of a bad choice. Yeah. All right, we're going to break away.

It's 837 on Newstalk 179.

It's 843 on Newstalk 107. I, Neil Larson and Julie Mason. And if you'd like to reach us on the Stones Automotive Group, Collin Text line that numbers (208) 542-1079 well, Julie, good news. Egg prices are coming down. Yeah, yeah. Listen to this. Finally there is some good news. These are staples in all of our fridges. A lot of people love eggs.

Many of us have them. And finally, I have some good news for you. The USDA says wholesale egg prices dropped for the third straight week, and it's a pretty big drop. The average wholesale price nationwide fell to 415 per dozen. So let's put that in perspective. That is down about $2.70 in just one week. Prices were over $8 at the end of last month.

So part of the reason for the steep drop is people were put off by those high prices. So demand is lower. The other reasons, experts say, are because bird flu outbreaks have decreased. And get this, Easter is really late this year, so demand isn't that high right now. However, USDA also says declines haven't been reflected at store shelves yet, so you still may see those higher prices.

But experts say consumers should start to see those prices drop by the time Easter finally rolls around just in time to die, those Easter egg. Well, I, I just bought eggs at the grocery store because I made somebody a pecan pie. And there it was still much higher than this. It was like seven bucks for a 597.

Excuse me, six bucks. So 597 for a dozen. But I thought, okay, they they can probably see the pipeline and they in the future, the wholesale price for the eggs, which is going to be less than what you're going to pay for a dozen of them at the grocery store. It really is coming down quickly. And I don't you just love the left.

The instant that Donald Trump was inaugurated, they started throwing the egg prices. Why aren't egg prices down? How are those egg prices? You know, they I do. They think that it's just a switch that somebody can come along and flip. Oh I think they do believe that. And they're going to search for any talking point. I mean we talked about this extensively yesterday.

They're drowning. You're drowning in their own bad policies. Yeah. And so that's what they were going to reach for. Eggs. Eggs. That's what they were talking about. And it hasn't gone down immediately. Let's talk about it. We knew it was going to come down. Just like tariffs. They didn't have you heard anything about tariffs in the last four days.

No no no. Yeah. Because Trump's in the middle of negotiating those tariffs. And we haven't really felt the pain from them yet. Yeah. Even though it was the whole don't turn gun. Yeah. Once Trump started talking about the tariffs. Yeah they are drowning in their own policies. The left is going to try to bring up anything to as a life preserver.

It's not working. Yeah yeah. No you're look they're they're still trying to find something that will stick them. Found anything. And I don't think they're going to I don't think they are either. Not right now because because Trump's Trump's deliver today. He's got a call with Putin today about Ukraine. And well we'll see how that turns out.

I don't think it's a public call, but we'll we'll see what, what comes of that? How much would you pay to sit in that room and listen to that call? Oh, I'd love to. I'd love to listen to that call, because I think he's going to be pretty tough on him. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So we, you have that.

We also have Julie, Adam Kinzinger, this clip, I think he may have been drunk when he made this clip. It's quite possible. Listen to this. So I just saw that Trump is, like, threatening the January 6th committee again. Listen, this dude knows he knows that this is like the thing that embarrasses him. He won't admit it embarrasses him because he's trying to, like, pretend like he didn't do anything.

He's obsessed. He's more obsessed with like, me and Liz Cheney than his freaking golf score. Hey, Trump, bring it on, dude, you weak, whiny, tiny man who, by the way, I saw a picture you this weekend. You're hiking up your pants now to really just blow your man boobs, and you're sweating so much, like, looking pretty, pretty bad there.

But bring it, man. Like, stop with all the big mouth talking stuff. You're a grown man. You don't talk like one, but you're a grown man. Come on, dude, bring it. You just made fun of somebody's pants and they're man boobs. And then you're going to turn right around in under 15 seconds. Say, be more mature. Yeah, I know, I yeah, I know, I had this same exact thought Julie.

Like, here's I don't know what he was thinking. I don't, I don't know what he was thinking but he. Yeah. He's what is so infuriating about him. Like he just drives me. He grates on me just terribly. Yeah. If, if we went back to like high school I, I was not a fighter. But I think if I could have gotten away with it when nobody was looking, I might have punched him in the mouth.

Yeah, like he just. Is that infuriating? Yeah, I just think it's him. A man who currently. Yeah. My other thoughts. So this will this will explain, I think one of the reasons you feel that way. My other thought I was, I was listening to it and he's calling him a tiny man. And you're so, obsessed with me, blah, blah.

Well, he is the president of the United States, and you're currently unemployed. Yeah. That's true. You're a nobody now. So I'm not real sure that you've got the data points to back what you're saying. He's, he's writing on the fumes of believing he was a national hero for the January 6th hearing. He never was and he never will be.

And that's really what's sad about him is he may well have committed some crimes. And now that Biden's auto pen pardons, I don't know if they were Biden's. Somebody on his staff had an auto pen sign a document that may or may not protect Adam Kinzinger. But if it doesn't, I think he may well be investigated and prosecuted.

And he should be. You just said that he's riding on the the coattails of the when he did have some fame with the January 6th committee, I actually think he was the least important person in the January 6th committee as far as the public was concerned. He's that little dog that's just yipping and running all over the place that really had no teeth or ability to harm or do anything.

Yeah, he was a token. Yeah. He was placed on that committee as a token, nothing more. You didn't bring intelligence to the committee. You didn't bring integrity to the committee. You write nothing to the table other than an R behind your name. And that's why you're currently unemployed. And if you are, Adam Kinzinger is attorney. I don't even know if he has one.

But if you happen to be his attorney and there was any chance whatsoever that he might get prosecuted for for anything, would you tell him to zip his mouth, he little mouth and shut up? Absolutely. He shouldn't be talking. He ought to just keep it quiet because I think, justifiably, the DOJ may look into his role in January 6th.

Yeah I hopefully that not will. Hopefully they are. Hopefully it's already happening. Yeah we'll we'll see. We'll see. But hopefully it's already happening. Yeah. And all right it's 851 on Newstalk 179. Let's do a quick break and we'll be back. We'll continue after this. 854 welcome back. And if you'd like to reach us, the Stones automotive Group Collin Text Line is (200) 854-2107 nine.

We're going to go right to the phones. Caller how are you today? Good. How are you? Good, good. What's up? I have a question for you. When you were talking about the, illegal immigration and all the health care, I have a question. Do we give our own citizens that same generosity of support for young mothers in this country, or do we require them to jump through hoops and different things?

And I'm not saying that there's people who abuse it, but I'm not aware that we do that same blanket. Here's everything for you, because you just came across the border and, we cover all your bills. I'm not aware of that. Yeah, I don't I don't I don't think so. I mean, I, I appreciate your observation to this.

I think what probably happens is that, some states and I don't know what the exact policy is in Idaho, and I don't know how rigorously it's observed, but it's more of an income based situation. If you report an income and it's below a certain threshold, they'll give you benefits. And they may not be that aggressive. Checking your immigration status.

Correct. But and but even in those benefits it's going to be based on okay, you come in and you fill out this paperwork. How much money do you make. And then we're going to give you this much help based on what you're contributing. Okay? Okay. We don't just give you a blank check to say, oh because you have different circumstances in the walked across somewhere from another country, you get everything that our citizens don't get.

Yeah. That's insane. No. Yeah. If we're so generous, why aren't we helping our own generous of our own people? Because I know of I'm aware of many people who have hard times, and they can't get by. Well, how insane is it when you have illegals crossing? And almost immediately they're given these 1000 or $2000 gift cards, yet you had North Carolinians who lost their homes in a hurricane and and flooding, and they get, what, 700 bucks?

Some of them didn't even get that. And you're you're right. There is such a disparity. It is. And here's the thing I another question. When I travel to other countries, do you do you think any of us are going to get that same Blinken gracious well contract. No. You're everything free. Not in your you're had you ever have a life.

It's not going to happen. Yeah. Well you're you're diamond a box of rocks if you think that generosity furthermore they're not printing every single thing that I need to figure out what's going on in this country in English. Yeah, yeah. No, it's whatever country on that. I have to figure it out. And and here's the thing. I if, when people want to get on.

Well, you're more moral. If you're this much more generous or you're more, you're so much more enlightened, you know, you're just so much more Christlike. You know what? If that's how you think, great, why did you just figure out helping your neighbor first before you want to help somebody that's coming across here from somewhere else? If you're that great of a person, I've got a list.

The neighbors give you some help. Do you want to come help? Yeah. It's a great point. And caller. Thank you. You bring up great points. I'm getting twitchy from our discussion. Years ago. Julie, you and I were very first doing radio together. Medicaid expansion was was going to be on the ballot. And I remember people thinking they themselves were compassionate because they wanted other people to pay and to expand Medicaid in Idaho.

It was the weirdest, most, strangest form of compassion I'd ever seen. And the other thing about this is we just had legislation in East Idaho that went through that puts boundaries on Medicaid expansion, that you have to work 20 hours a week and blah, blah, blah, aren't should we have those requirements of illegal immigrants at a minimum? Well, if we're going to extend the benefits, yes, absolutely.

Yep. All right. It's eight 59 hour two of the Nielsen show coming up.

All right. Welcome back. Our 22085421079 the stones automotive group calling text line. I'm going to get to a because Chris Matthews and I have some things we got to talk about. But I'm going to play that in a moment. First we want to go right to the phones. We have a caller standing by through the break. Caller thanks for waiting.

What's on your mind today? Well, good morning, Neil and Julie. Eggs. How is it that we can bring eggs in from foreign countries that don't have, some virus, but we can't seem to raise them here in the United States? Well, I think the Biden policy of killing perfectly healthy chickens was part of the problem.

Yeah, well, that's kind of the point that it was just like I kept thinking about that and said, this makes absolutely no sense. Yeah. All right, guys, thank you. Thank you for the call. I feel like I stole his thunder and I didn't mean to do that. Yeah, yeah, but but it really was I mean, these are eggs and they're like, well, we got to reduce the population to slow the spread.

So, took a little bit of a seizure, right? Two weeks. All we needed was two weeks, and we could have staved this off. Eggs could have been 250 this whole time. If we would have just slowed, slowed down the spread. All we had to do,

Could can you make masks for beaks? Sure. They figure out. Well, they would still be ineffective, but I'm sure they'd figure out. How does the chicken world have an Anthony Fowl cheek?

Just ask. That might have been your best one on that. Dad jokes on the fly here, but I'm pumped to do. Yes. Okay. It's funny. Can can we talk about Chris Matthews? Sure. I don't want to sit here and make up bird puns for the rest of the. I don't want to scratch out more bird or mind. You're just pecking at something that doesn't have to be patched up.

I know, all right, here is, Chris Matthews. I want to play this for you, Chris Matthews. What do you make of these numbers for the Democrats? Well, you could have seen them the night that, Trump addressed the Congress. When you watched the Democratic Party. They seemed like they weren't there. They were sort of vacant. They weren't saying anything with their manner.

They never questioned the facts. They let the president lie about Social Security and say that for giving benefits to people who are 160 years old or to their grandchildren, we allowed Elon Musk to go on television and tell everybody that we're using Social Security as a law to bring people into the country illegally, that we're giving them benefits, which we're not.

So giving them to illegal people in the country who came in illegally. We give it to them, lie after lie after lie, and said nothing. I tell you. Carville, James Carville, who said the Democrats should stay silent, maybe partially right, but where he's wrong is you have to have a fact checker. There needs to be a war room.

Remember, in 1992, remember how Bill Clinton won that election because he had a war room. He and George Stephanopoulos were down there in little Rock, and they were checking every fact, and nobody checks the facts anymore. And the lies are getting through to the American people. They are okay. I need to unpack this for just a moment. So Chris Matthews thinks the Democrats need someone like Bill Clinton and George Stephanopoulos to tell the truth.

George Stephanopoulos just had to pay out millions because he told a lie about Donald Trump's legal case. Yeah, bill Clinton, we know his relationship with the truth. The truth is, Chris, there are no Democrats left that America trust to tell the truth. It's part of the reason why they are in the horrific mess that they're in.

Because they lied over and over and over again to the American people. You don't have the resources to have a fact checker anymore on your side of the aisle. That this was an absurd tone deaf statement and sentiment by Chris Matthews. They don't have it in him anymore. And keep in mind, back in 1992, at that point, Bill Clinton was a blank slate.

He hadn't gained the reputation of of the lie after lie after lie. He he was like, oh, governor of Arkansas, political superstar, young, fresh, whatever. So they were then same thing for George Stephanopoulos. These people in the last 30 plus years have proven themselves to be just as prolific liars as anything you're accusing our side of being. Think of somebody who has a problem that is life altering.

Let's say they're an alcoholic. This is the alcoholic looking at everybody who's trying to help them and saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're the one with the problem. I've got this under control. You're you're seeing things that aren't existing. I, I, I know I didn't get to work twice this week, but that just happens. I don't have a problem.

I don't have a problem. Yeah. That's Chris Matthews talking about the Democrat Party. Yeah, yeah. They don't have anybody that can fill that role that he's talking about. Yeah. Look also as a complete just examining this clip for what it is and I know our audience can't see Chris Matthews. Man. He looks horrible. Yeah. He does not look good.

So maybe he needs to take a break from all of this and do some meditation and reflection and figure it out, because I think the weight of the the turn of his party and the turn of his life is not not playing out real good for him. No, no, it's not. And they're part of the you know, you bring up a really good point, Julie.

I think part of the the Democrats problem is that people who should have made an exit 10 or 15 years ago are still trying to cling to relevance. Nancy Pelosi Chris Matthews is a good example, although he's not quite up in the A-list stratospheric level. But, James Carville, yeah, Carville, Chuck Schumer, like Joe Biden, was a classic example of this.

Those are the people that are trying to, take up the stage when when they probably ought to be paving the way for some younger Democrats whose reputations aren't yet tarnished with lying. And, they can't, you know, they can't give up. They control. Yeah, they can't I, I feel like Republicans have done a pretty good job of that.

We we still have some old timers, but look at all the new fresh faces that we have. I mean, it was very, very abundant during the convention, in the election. I don't understand why Democrats Democrats can't figure this out. We do not worship at the altar. That is Mitch McConnell. Yeah. Republicans are not doing that. No. You have that same version on your site.

You have people that are exactly like Mitch McConnell on the Democrat side, and you won't let it go. We brought in fresh new talent, ready to work nonstop, ready to not, you know, seize up in front of a microphone, ready to handle the new version of media, which is TikTok podcasts, social media, ready to put out a video that just slaps the Democrats in the face instead of trying to pretend to be cool.

They're Democrats just aren't figuring it out. No. Well, they're they're not. You know what I think may have happened back when Bernie was running for the presidency and it was that 2016. Yeah, because Hillary Clinton sort of bumped him out and maneuvered around him. He Bernie had the support of young people. And I thought, I think Democrats at that point thought we're always going to have the young people.

I mean, even Bernie, who looked Bernie's looked 70 since he was 30. Okay. Like, am I wrong? No he has. Oh okay. So and but but his ideas like free health care, free, college free everything. I think that drew in temporarily the young people. But Trump performed incredibly well with the young people compared to Kamala Harris. Like they they the the 18 to 25 year olds like that was.

I did not expect that JD Vance may have had something to do with it. Maybe the fact that we are inviting and even, you know, promoting people like Vivek Ramaswamy and lots of young, fresh faces in the Republican Party, I think it's just appearing to be more of an inviting place for young people who want to have a future in life, to be able to afford a home, to be able to to, you know, pay, pay for basic things in life.

They're the Republican Party looks like their future now, which that was a flip. I didn't really anticipate. In and I think that we're seeing the fruits of that now. And I think the flip has been going on far longer than this last election cycle. Yeah. You've got, young conservatives who go to college campuses and face down rallies and hold, hold these, almost like townhall forums in auditoriums.

And they allow Democrats to get up. Ben Shapiro paved the way for this. Yeah. Allow a Democrats or Liberals to get up and ask questions and try to trap you. And then those Democrats and liberals realize the the intelligence that they're facing on the stage. So we've got Daily Wire, we've got Charlie Kirk, we've got these young conservatives who are doing this, who are the young liberals that are doing this kind of thing.

There's no one, you know what young liberals are doing? Burning things, holding protests that doesn't work in today's world. And conservatives have approached it from the other measured manner. And it's it's the fruits are bearing out. It took a minute, but the fruits are bearing out. There's an interesting cycle in American politics where I believe the establishment and the anti established ferment will flip every couple of generations.

And you think about who the anti-establishment was back in the 60s, the sex, drugs, rock n roll era, the Woodstock era. It it was liberals wanting to stick it to the man that felt like, oh, all these conservatives and tradition protectors. They're in place right now and we're not going to take it. And we're so they did. And so they got very aggressive.

And through the the 1970s and through the 80s, they took over, they took over academia. They took over entertainment. They took over a lot. They became the establishment. The thing they hate it. Yeah. And now the anti-establishment are people like Ben Shapiro, people like, Charlie Kirk. They're the ones showing up, sitting out on the quad underneath a tent with a table in front of them saying, well, prove me wrong on this.

You know, they're the ones that are out there doing sort of that grassroots, organic, anti-establishment stuff. And and now the tables have, have turned. And so that's why I think young people are gravitating toward people like Donald Trump, because he's the disrupter. He's now the anti-establishment, and he doesn't believe the same things. On a lot of issues with Woodstock.

But there is a familiar element there in that he's going to be the one that will take down the power structure that has been in control for quite some time now. Well, in isn't it interesting that all along they were framing Joe Biden through the last eight years? I'm going to say framing Joe Biden as grandpa. He just loves the country.

He loves you. And, when in reality it grandpa for Joe Biden meant half dead. Yeah, grandpa for Trump means okay, I am. Your grandpa introduced me to this thing called a podcast. Let's talk about it. I am your grandpa. Let's go on TikTok. I'll probably do something stupid, but I'm here. Let's learn this together. Yeah. Yep. I am your grandpa.

You're right. But we hang out with, one of my family members is now dating Tiger Woods, and we hang out with the cool crowd like it is different. And he's still going to be grandpa and still going to make fun of J.D. Vance. The socks? Yeah. In the middle of a foreign policy meeting, because that's what grandpa would do.

Yeah, but he is. He's also going to look at J.D. Vance and call him, like the next up and comer and the coolest thing ever and be proud of his grandkids. And that's the grandpa we were presented with the Democrats. Grandpa is half dead. Yeah, yeah. And doesn't know who you are half the time and doesn't know what a podcast is.

Yeah. No idea. He can't even sign documents. Like, do you have an auto pen do that? Yeah. Like it's it, it is. It's embarrassing. You're right. You you have a a vibe. You have a vibrant grandpa and you have half dead dementia. Grandpa. Yep. All right, quick break. 921 (208) 542-1079. We'd love to have you on the show this morning.

Well we'll see. Hold on one second. We'll be back. All right. Hey, Facebook, I'm going to go tight. Okay? Yeah, I'll chat with them. We have this weird thing going on, and I know you guys might understand this because some of you. Listen, Claire, from the 6:00 hour, I have the operating system on my computer. Neil has the operating system on his computer.

Prior to this new big studio, I couldn't manipulate the operating system. Neil could always. And I could see what Neil is doing with the new system. In the new big studio, they operate independently. So what goes on on my computer? I can't see what Neil is doing with the operating system on his computer. Well, in the 6:00 hour, Neil and I switched places because I'm going to be doing the show alone on on Friday and Monday.

And that was only the second time I've operated the board in the middle of a show, so gotta get better at it. My operating system on Neil's side of the desk would not work. The operating system on my side of the desk would work, and when I would fire something from might, when Neil fired something from my side of the desk, it triggered the operating system on the other side of the desk to all of a sudden start working.

It's been doing that all morning, so every once in a while I'm having to fire something. Every once in a while it's working on Neil's side of the desk, and we're just trying to figure out why they're not very happy with each other. Yeah, and I've needed a steady flow of caffeine this morning. Yeah, we've had eight. Both of us have had terrible attention issues this morning we had a moment in the 7:00 commercial break where we covered, I think it was four subjects in about 25 seconds.

I know, I know.

Actually, he doesn't have admin rights. Ryan. Neither of these computers really well in in theory, who has the admin rights? What's the brain of the whole operating system? For which system? For wide orbit. Well, Shane is over it, but no, but your computer, actually. Well, my computer could actually change everything, too, if we wanted to. Yeah, with the way that they're logged in.

Are you logged in as me? I think so, okay. See, the little gear's down at the bottom. Well done. Let me move. Yep. Click on that. And then up at the top of the window that pops up, it'll say what profile. Oh nope. I'm guest your guest okay. All right I think we can have simultaneous log ins.

I may log you in as me. So you have bumper music availability too. Oh, we could do that. I wonder if you locked me in as me. I would actually get to see what you're doing. I would prefer that. Maybe because I learn so much just watching you. Yeah. Thank you. That's recorded.

I've learned how to master it. Just watching you.

That may find its way into a promo. I did capture that bird flu joke. I felt like that would be a good one to send to Jesse for him to do a trial run on. Oh, good. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So it's in there. Okay. Oh, I did write Wednesday, didn't I? See see see, that's what today's is.

I wrote Wednesday is the title. Oh goodness. All right, all right. 926 on Newstalk 1079, this is Representative Ilhan Omar. It is hard to imagine anything more and American than that. The Trump administration's immigration policy is a threat to immigrants like criminals. America is too great to fall prey to Donald Trump's anti-immigrant agenda. Okay, so she said it's un-American for Trump to use this law to get rid of the thugs and gang bangers and the bad guys.

Un-American. It was signed by one of our founders. It doesn't get more American than this. It's it's looking out for you. What is she? You know what? It's a situation where, I don't think that word means what you think it means, Ilhan. Yeah, like that's the short fat guy trying to tell somebody what basketball really means.

Yeah. The person who's never even been able to dribble a ball in the in this month of March Madness, just because you're shaped like a basketball doesn't mean, you know what right is up. Just because you're here in America, Ilhan Omar, doesn't mean you understand what an American is, because you never live it. You don't act like an American.

And now you're going to lecture people on what is America. Yeah, what a weird what a weird approach for her. I mean, she could say it's unjust or it's cruel or something, but to say it's un-American, this law that was signed by a founder and, it never expired. It was always there. Presidents always had this power. And Trump's using it.

It's just his. Is it just a strange approach for her? But but I really think that the left's version, their grotesque version of what it means to be an American, is that anybody gets to come here if they want anybody, even if they're violent, even if they're criminal, even if they're a danger to society, even if they're going to steal and rape and plunder.

The American way is to let even those people come here. For those who love this, for those socialists who think that this should just be open territory and anyone can come, I just really would ask them a personal question, which is then why is it your the doors to your house open and what will you do when crime is committed against you or someone you love?

Those are the two questions. Because if you can't answer yes, my doors are open and I allow anyone to sleep in my home. Yeah, and if you can't answer that, well, that's just part of being a good person. Sometimes crime happens to you, then you have no leg to stand on. Yeah. No. Yeah, that that is so true.

It's an A.D.D. morning here. I just want to warn our our listeners. It looks like those two stranded astronauts are going to return today because Elon Musk is going to go rescue them. Yeah, they're actually in route. They are. Okay, so they're going to splashdown, I think in Florida or just off the coast of Florida. And it's going to be tough for them.

They've been in space for so many months that their their muscles have atrophied. Sometimes after spending that much time in space, they can't even walk like it's. Yeah, it's it's really, really tough. So we're not quite sure what, what that will be like for them. But I do want to ask this question to blatantly make it a political point or, political issue, because why would we do it any other way?

Why? Why have it any other way? Do you believe that if Kamala Harris somehow had gotten elected as president, that those astronauts would be being rescued right now? No, not even close. Not even close. I mean, it and and and honestly, I think maybe the first year of Trump's presidency is going and maybe longer has to be cleaning up the mess that the left left behind.

Yes, I agree that there is so much. Well, this X prices are the mess that was left behind, right? I have no idea where the bird flu came from. I'm not I'm not applying that responsibility to the Biden administration. Yeah, I am applying the way that they reacted to it and that there's questionable tactics that they were trying to take that industry B before Trump took office.

It took less than 60 days for him to drop those egg prices fly by about $3 a dozen. And it's going to go down further than that. Now, again, giving a lot of credit to Trump that he probably doesn't deserve that. It was cyclical and things were just coming about. But that tells you the difference between the way the two administrations ran.

One administration wanted to purposely harm America. Another administration is purposely trying to help America getting the astronauts home, purposely helping America, so leaving the astronauts stranded up there, purposely harming America. So we had a text, come in and they're like that inflation went up 0.2%. And yet we're saying inflation went down. Well, actually for inflation, it is far less than what is typical.

And that's why economists everywhere were thrilled with that number. That because usually you can expect about 3%. Yeah I was going to say anything under two is a huge part. Yeah you're right. If you can keep it under 2%, everyone counts that as a win. Unless you're a Trump deranged Democrat who hates Donald and and has to criticize absolutely everything that happens under Donald.

But but for the rest of us, we're like, you know what? We can all absorb a 0.2% increase that that's a very manageable and a less than expected increase. So the best way to to chart inflation is year to year on the exact month. So January from 2023 to January to 2024 to January 2025. That's that's the most accurate way to chart it.

It's never like you're always going to be somewhere in a growth period unless we have a complete fallout in America. Yeah, we've had times where the inflation for the month in the, in the Biden administration was up at 9%. Yeah, very high numbers. Anything under two comparatively year to year means America is doing very, very well with the system that we have built.

This should have been a huge celebration. And and they will always present the situation no different than it is. If you understand inflation, you're at your understanding why that's a huge celebration to have it fall beneath 2%. Okay. So it goes back to our texter who's like 0.2 percent. You're going to turn away and we're going to get your name, that texture.

Are they stupid or are they deliberately obtuse? I'm wondering if they actually know it and they're just trying to. It's probably worked in their lives to trap people in that false, description of what inflation rates should be, and so that they think they can send it via text and trap people. Maybe they're not. Maybe they've been tricked.

Okay. But what they don't understand is, Julie, you and I are paid to be informed in tenders, okay? They don't get that. So what they will do in order because they. Look, I know I grew up, I went to public school. I'm a farm kid from Bingham County. I'm not Einstein, but I know about inflation. And do they think they check off these little.

Oh there's no way Neil and Julie know about this. They don't know that inflation always goes up 2 to 3% and that's acceptable. But I'm going to pretend like that's a bad thing that it went up. Only point to like are they the dumb ones or or do they get to be dumb. But they think we'll think they're smart because we're dumb like it.

What's the what's the dynamic here? I you know, I don't know, I don't I I'm guessing it's worked in their life in other ways and that's why they're doing it. They're able to convince their significant other, or they're able to convince their neighbor or the person that they go get coffee with or whomever. And then they think, yeah, I can tackle that.

I for stuff. I never understand why they listen if we drive them so crazy, but whatever. Thanks for letting us live rent free in your head. Second, at least be honest with the argument that you bring to the table. I, I feel like I, I, I try my hardest to be honest with the argument. I just, I just finished a whole like diatribe on egg prices and said, we can't give Donald Trump all of the credit.

That's honest. Yeah. At least show up to the table and be honest about inflation. If you're going to have the conversation. Yeah. Maybe I, I'd like to sit down with them. And you know how sometimes conversations are they contain both in insult and a compliment. Yeah. Yeah. And the insult compliment combo for me with this person would be I know that you're smarter than what you're projecting right now.

And you won't come across condescending or anything. You should open the doors to your intellect that are currently sitting stagnant. Because I know you can understand this. I know it's in you. That's the same way you're saying, that's the point. That's not the point, Paul. You're right. That's true. I know you know this. I know you know.

That's not the point, Paul. That's that's true. Let's go to the phones. 2085 42 179 hi, caller. How are you? Hey. Good morning. This is Chris. I was talking with my wife about the El Salvador incident, and and I told her I said there was no way that those planes were going to turn around, because on the other side in El Salvador, I don't know how many police and police cars and busses and airplanes and helicopters and all of that stuff was there to receive them.

There was no way, no matter what, judge in the United States could say that was going to get those planes to turn around. They needed some optics in El Salvador, and they got them. So that was my that was my point. Like there was no way that that plane was going to get turned around. So I'm glad they did it.

I'm glad we got to see how they treat their inmates. And it didn't look too awful. It looked like the first day of basic training. So, I don't know. Good luck to them. Yeah. All right, well, thank you. I like that hot take. It's great. If you haven't seen the video, find it somewhere. Today. It,

All you got to do is search Trump immigration video, and you're going to find it because it's going to be the newest one that pulls up. But it's great. It shows what happened when they got there that they, you know, line them up and they changed their clothes and put them in prison gear. And and it if you're an athlete, if you're a criminal, especially if you've done violent criminal acts, I actually don't feel bad for you at all.

I don't either. Who who's feeling sympathy here? But the judge other than this judge who? I didn't read the judge's ruling because it it's like there's no reason. Because I know what Trump's. What did he say? Like how did he defend know you bring those violent criminals back here to America whose you weren't even here legally in the first place?

You bring them back here? I'm not sure what he said. I do know what other people said about the ruling, which is they question how the Trump administration is, figuring out what prisoners to send. Yeah. And they feel like if they present it that way, then those that believe in this, this leftist trope that they put out there, that we are just plucking people with dark skin off the street and putting them on a plane and taking them to El Salvador.

Yeah, that is not what that's not what's happening at all. And so in this complying with the judge's order, which I think is at noon today, eastern time, so here in about 20 minutes, the Trump administration has to supply the names of the people who were on the plane. The purpose behind that is then they can cross-reference and see that they're criminals.

Then that gets rid of the whole talking point that, well, you're just picking up people and sending them. Tell left Salvador. No, we're not okay. A so is there an argument that the judge doubts that they're criminals alike? I fully believe that. That is the implied. I don't know if he wrote that, but he's questioning the the selection process of who made it onto that plane or the planes.

I think there was three planes total. They haven't really identified. How many is that his call like. And what I don't know is that even his realm, all of this is out of his realm. There's a couple of arguments to be made. The planes were already in international waters. It's a moot point. Do you have jurisdiction over this just because the ACLU, ACLU filed a case with it doesn't mean you have jurisdiction.

Yeah, like all of that can work itself out. No plane is going to turn around for you just because you're saying, hey, I think I know what I'm doing here. Yeah, that's not how it works. Well, the actual order never said it. They needed to turn around. Yeah, he only implied that when he was talking about the order.

Well, you have to put it in the order, Like, all of this is a mess, which is why the Trump administration is so confident with the way that they've reacted in contract law. In contract law, it doesn't matter what said in the discussions leading up to it. It's what's contained in the document that both parties are signing.

Yeah. If the real estate agent says I might be able to get you down to 1% percent instead of 3% on the selling side, that doesn't mean anything in it. What matters is what's on the paper. And if it says 3% on the paper, it's 3% on the paper. If it was so important, why didn't the judge put it in the document?

Because I think it would have made the what is his ruling even more ridic. Less? Yeah. He knew he couldn't put it in there because it was going to make it more ridiculous. He knows he doesn't have the authority to do so. Yeah. All right. Let's go. To the phones. Hi, caller. How are you? Good morning.

Good morning. Julie, how are you? We're good hanging in there. I'm going to ask. You're way smarter. This is not a backhanded compliment. You and Julia. Way smarter than I am. I'm just the average listener. What does ACLU stand for? The American Civil Liberties Union. What part of ACLU gives them any standing when it comes to and illegal alien?

They're not an American. They have no American civil liberties. You know, that's a good point. I don't know why they I thought standing was the first thing you have to, present in court. You have to present. You have standing. Now, perhaps there's an argument to be made that they are serving in behalf of the illegal pro bono that might be happening.

They don't have any American rights. You came here illegally. You don't have due process. You don't have the right to, You don't have the rights that we're guaranteed. Well, Constitution. No American citizens are guaranteed those. Right. If, you know, there there are immigration attorneys that represent illegals. They do have have some level of legal rights. They're they're not if if they're taken to court, if they're sued, if something they can hire an attorney and be represented in an American court.

Okay, I understand that. But they're not being sued. They're being deported. Well, they're here illegally. Yeah. That's not being sued. Well, I know, but I'm just saying that in in a court of law, they they can be recognized. So. Okay, it just it just makes me wonder what the ACLU is really all about when it stands for American civil liberties.

Yeah. They don't stand up for Americans. They stand up for people who are here illegally breaking the law. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. But thank you for the call. I you bring up a good point, though, is the ACLU representing the illegals or are they just showing up at a court complaining about what's happening, which is two different things.

That is two different things. And I think that everything that, he was saying in the call, actually, again, goes back to the this is why the Trump administration is so confident. Yeah, that they have done the right thing here. There's there's no part of this that doesn't have a flaw in it when it comes to the judge, ACLU, the the rights that they think that the, the perceived rights, they think these people have, none of that exists, which is why they're so confident about what they did.

All right. Next caller, you're on the program. Good morning. Does that mean, yes. Go ahead. Okay. So I'm hoping that you can make me feel better about this situation. No. So given a year, a little over a year ago, I had a baby. That wasn't an issue. Well, I was in the NICU. We were there for a little over four weeks.

We crossed parties, other moms in, like, another room. We eat and we talk with one another. Well, there was a couple moms there. One was from Guatemala and one was from Peru, and neither one of them spoke any English. And both of them had another child with them, and both of them had babies in their neck.

You. I voted for Donald Trump. I'm not going to lie about that. But I am a little bit on the fence about what you said about your monologue and how people need to be taken. I guess you deported, and I'm. What if they can't get the help that they need in their other countries, I, I do well, I was trying to get you to help me feel better about what I chose to vote.

Because I don't want those poor babies to be in this situation where they can't get to know. No, I, I did not argue that they shouldn't get help, but I understand that, okay, the deportation and I'm just a little concerned about. Okay. Go ahead. Okay. I, I think that, you and I actually have lived a lot of the same feelings.

I spent a lot of time in the NICU. I saw such sad stories. So I can completely understand where your emotions are coming from. I think if you'll remember, Neil and I were talking just right after his monologue, and we both said, you cannot put the toothpaste back in the tube. So those that are here right now, you we're not sending them back.

You've got to help those people. The system, the bad behavior by the Trump admin or excuse me, by the Biden administration existed. That is not those those innocent lives fault. But when a law is trying to come forward in Idaho, that is going to rectify the concept that you can come here and get anything for free. That is a warning to people who are going to abuse the system in the future.

Idaho is putting a law together, and we're we're not going to be that state that allows you to come and abuse. And let me reference a text that we got from somebody. A person texted in and said they had parents who lived in California, and there was a house just down the road from from their parents. And they said that, at all times there would be about ten pregnant women in that house, and it was just a revolving door, and someone would show up and fill the spot after a baby was born, and that mom and that baby would enter public, funded housing.

So they're immediately put on the welfare system and they bring another pregnant, immigrant in, and they funnel them into the public welfare system. We need to put a stop to that for those who are here currently. They're here. We're going to need to take care of those babies the best that we possibly can. But if we get rid of the incentive, then we're not presented with the problem of denying care to a baby.

Okay, I just can I add one thing to, to uation it? Well, it is a sad situation, but one of the things about the bill that we're, that Idaho's considering right now is that emergency care is excluded from this. So if it's in intensive care, if there's a baby that needs care to survive, that's not part of this, that that.

Absolutely. We're taking care of that baby. So that's not really, that's not really relevant to the discussion that we're having right now. I think the point that that I want to make, and I think the point that is hopefully getting out there is that we can't offer free prenatal care to every pregnant woman in the world who wants to come here like that can't be what America can provide, because we just simply can't.

And so we can't have that incentive sitting there saying, hey, come here and we'll take care of your pregnancy and pay for everything. I mean, you wouldn't defend that, would you? Know what I mean? Are. And if you Bill was like over $200,000, well, paying on it for the rest of our lives. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that that is a very hard thing and I, I understand that which sort of underscores why America doesn't have the capacity to do that.

And, and so I again, my, my heart goes out to you because of what you've been through. And I can understand why this is such an emotional issue for you. But at the same time, anything that is emergency care is not going to be, it's going to get covered. It's not going to be tossed out because it's an emergency.

It's required for the baby to live. Yes, I agree with you. All right. Well, thank you for the call and good luck. And it is okay to feel sad about it. It that's very understandable. But to make a country run, you can't be governed by your emotions. Feeling sad about it is okay, but we can't base. We can't make laws based on sadness.

Yeah. And and we have to repair the damage that was done by the Biden administration. Having the borders open for four straight years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's 949. We've got to take a break Julie. In fact, I'm going to have to make some adjustments here. At 949 on Newstalk 1079. We'll be back after this okay.

Hello everyone. And this is a really good point. Hospitals have to overcharge paying patients due to the numbers of patients who don't pay. She is paying for those of those immigrants pregnancies as well as her own. This is 100% true, 100% true. There's no fallacy in that. You know what? And if I would have thought about that, I would have asked that question.

I would have said, do you know why your bills $200,000? It's because there's a lot that don't pay anything. Yeah, a Somali was $1 million baby. This was back in a she was born in late 1999. The total bill came to almost $1 million by the time we were done. You know why I didn't have to pay the rest of my life with that?

Because I had done my due diligence and I hadn't risked it and had paid high insurance premiums and had myself covered before I had a baby. So therefore I paid a small amount and didn't have to pay the whole million dollars. Yeah, okay. Now I'm we've made full circle back to my argument. We have got to get back to a culture where you take responsibility for having a baby.

Yeah. It is not the government's job to take care of my baby. It's my job. Yeah, to take care of my baby. And sometimes that means, like, I pay crappy high prices and premiums. But when I had $1 million baby, it didn't bankrupt me. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We're going to have to turn right background and take it. You know, let's take a phone call because we do have a phone call, and then we'll we'll have to flip and do the what do we have here.

123. Okay. So we have three minute break. We're going to go through a little exercise. Okay. Yeah yeah. If you were running it at what time would you have to get out. You know you have three minutes. We have a three minute break and you have to be out at 58, 50, 58, 50. Yeah. So that's always one thing I screw up on is figuring out if there's a commercial behind that stops that or not, if it's 5950 or 5850.

So that would have been my question there. Yeah. So, you know, you'd have to be out at 5550, but that leaves you no time. So probably 5450 is when we need to go. So all right. 952 Newstalk 117 let's go right to the phones. Caller we have about a minute. Go ahead. Yeah. I just wanted to comment on last caller I, I get I had my first child was on the air for 5 or 6 days.

But the problem with the emotional, things is that you got a whole line of people with other emotional stories right behind her. Why? We shouldn't follow the laws. You know, and so everything's falls apart, and you guys address that after. So, no, thank you for the call. And another. We had a point come in that I thought was super, super astute.

The reason why our last caller prior to this last one, why her bill was $200,000, is she's actually paying for those who couldn't pay anything. I mean, the bills have to be paid at some point and if somebody's not paying, somebody else has to. And that's one reason not the only health care is just expensive. But that's one reason why her bill is at $200,000 is because we've had this the policy that we're talking about.

Yes. Yeah. There is absolutely emotion wrapped up in this. But when we're talking about solutions, the solution can't be guidance guided by emotion. We're going to have to repair bad behavior and restructure generational behavior. Yeah. Great. All right. 954 we'll, break away. We'll come back. We'll wrap up the hour when we return on Newstalk 179. I think there's a challenge in that.

Some people think that there is an infinite pot of resources out there. Wouldn't it be wonderful if there was? If there was, then socialism would work. Everybody could have their their health care paid for and it, it just it's not it's not true. And at some point if you continue to deplete and deplete and deplete, then you'd you just create a bad life for everybody.

And your expectation, Julie, that people have to look out for themselves largely and be their own biggest advocates. It's so true. Yeah. Yeah. I think I do this a lot. I have us reference, the way that you run a household in a family because there's a lot of similarities between running a country and running a household.

Yeah. And and if you do them well, you have less bumps. And one of those things that I would say is, socialism doesn't work in a household. No, that's not reality. If I raised three kids and there were times that the firstborn was struggling more than the second and the third, and then there's times that the second was struggling more than the first in the third.

And then there was times that the first got more of my attention because of the life situation situation they were in. And then the second got more attention because of the activities they were involved in. And socialism doesn't adjust for those things. Yeah. So if I had treated my children like socialists and divvied up the time, there would have been leaks and cracks and harm that I couldn't repair later on.

The country's no different. It has to be nimble and individualized and yes. And everybody largely needs to look out for themselves. Yes. Yeah. And guess what? I looked at my kids at times and said, I need you to step up like you're expecting the rest of your family to carry a load for you. That's not fair. We want to help you with this, in this, in this.

I need you to help us because that's what we are as a family. So this is not me advocating for this, but I want to have a little thought experiment. We're not going to have enough time, but I think I have enough time to to set it up right here. What if you like? Right now, we do expect government to do a few basic things.

Schools, roads, police you know, basic safety, cleaning up the communities. Like there are things that we've socialized and even the most conservative people are like that's fine. What if we looked at health care and said everyone will get just their basic care taken care of. They get a yearly exam for minor things like you go in and if you have strep throat, you can get an antibiotic.

You can do that like there's a basic slate of medical care that could be provided for people. But it's the bigger things. The hip replacements, the anything cosmetic would not be covered. You'd have to do that separately. Cancer would be separate. It would. You'd have to buy a policy to cover the big things. But what if we created a medical system that was socialized, but it was just a basic yeah.

If you, you know, fall and break a bone or a finger or something. Hold on. You can't answer that just a minute. 958 on Newstalk 1079I just took up all the time asking Julia question and no time for her to answer. So we'll let her answer it in the Facebook Live. And if you'd like to join us for that, just text live to 285421079.

That was a question about socialized medicine that I think it's thought provoking. I don't know that I agree with. I'm not sure there's a straight answer either. Yeah, I don't I don't either, but everyone have a wonderful Tuesday. Julie and I will be back tomorrow right here on Newstalk 1079. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. You're up next.