3.12.2025 -- NLS -- Trump, Truth, and Transgender Tensions

On this episode with Neal and Julie, the conversation covers a range of topics, from language quirks and pronunciation pet peeves to the complexities of political discourse. Neal shares his perspective on transgender identity in business and social interactions, while also diving into the broader cultural debate over "my truth" versus objective reality. They also discuss Trump’s leadership, political loyalty, and the fine line between support and blind allegiance. Later, they touch on international conflicts, media narratives, and how public figures handle political criticism. The episode wraps up with some lighthearted discussion about mispronunciations, regional dialects, and the quirks of the English language. 

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Transcript

And welcome. It's 807 on Newstalk 1079. And, oh no. Stick around. Good. Yeah. I'm busy messaging people. It's okay. No, it's all good. Because I wanted to talk with you, Julie, about this. This happened in a congressional hearing. Two members of Congress started sparring over what the other side calls misgendering. Listen. And now recognize the representative from Delaware, Mister McBride.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Ranking member Keating also wondered. Mister chairman, could you repeat your introduction again, please? Yes. It's, it's a we have set the standard on the floor of the house, and I'm simply. What is that standard, Mister chairman? Would you repeat what you just said? You introduced a duly elected representative from the United States of America.

Please. I will, the representative from Delaware, Mister McBride. Mister chairman, you are out of order. Mister chairman, have you no decency? I mean, I have come to know you a little bit, but this is not decent. We will continue this. You will not continue it with me unless you introduce a duly elected representative. The right way. This hearing is adjourned.

Okay, so they adjourned over a pronoun. Well. All right. Or an, title, I guess. Mr.. So what are the actual rules in Congress? Do you have to use either Mr.. Or Mrs.. Because we have a conundrum. You have the trans member of Congress wanting to be called Mrs.. However, the trans member of congress is a male.

Yes. Biologically a male identifying as a female. Identifying as a female. So, if, if the rules don't state, you must say Mr.. Mrs.. I if I'm the chairman to avoid ugliness like this, I may just say Congress member because the people's business has to go forward. So I may refer to them as Congressmember so-and-so from from wherever.

Because then you're just. And now there are people that would say, well, you're that's a cop out, you're punting. And I get that, I understand that. But if you if there's important matters to get to and the left is going to refuse to participate because you're not using the right but but accurate word, then then you have to decide how you want to proceed.

Right. I, I guess you could accuse me of punting also, because that is probably what I would do in this situation. Yeah, I would just I would make this because it's business. Yes. And I would make business work the best that it possibly could. Yeah. That doesn't mean I have to call that person by their name, that they have chosen.

But I would use the neutral Congress member. Whatever. Yes, representative. Whatever. Because Representatives neutral. Congress person is neutral. I don't know the rules, though. In specific committee meetings. Yeah. So I'm not sure what's required here. Yeah. But that's what I would do. I do kind of think it's weird that the it's not actually the transgender representative who's throwing the fit.

It's the ranking member. Yes. In behalf of the transgender member. Because, I mean, I don't know, maybe the transgender member would throw their own fit. And this is just the decorum, like the the level of this person's in charge or whatever, but also maybe the person's perfectly fine. I don't know if you should just insert yourself. Right?

Yeah, maybe. Maybe it is. You know, here's the thing, Julie, when we're talking about the issue, just broadly, if you're talking about males, it's he and him and Mr.. And if you're talking about females she her misses or miss. However, I do think it's important to have respect in in one on one situations. And so if you're if it were my kid or a good friend or it was a coworker or somebody I worked with a lot, I'm not I'm probably not going to be insistent on continuing to what they would say is misgender them.

I'd be respectful. Most of the time, I probably would just avoid any gendered language at all because I would feel like I'm compromising my principle. But there's two. There are two dueling principles here. One is adhering to reality. And number two is I don't want to keep blatantly making them feel like I'm disrespecting them either. So you have to sort of find where, where what are you willing to give on in in this especially in one on one interactions.

I would agree with that. I also don't think that someone who is transgender and it is confusing, you look at that person and you're like, wait, what? Because they did they do look like a man. Yeah. Dressed up for a holiday or something like. Right. I think that if you're going to do that, you need to accept a portion of you're probably going to get some, pushback.

You're going to be mislabeled every once in a while. I think it's I think it's actually if you're going to operate in society and you societally expect me in a business situation to call you by the right name. Yeah. I'm the or you're the name that you've chosen, let me say that. Yeah. Then you also have to give a little bit this.

Everyone has to move to my position is, is that actually not doable. And that's not the way. That's not the way life works. So nobody gets everything. They want 100% of the time. Yeah. And so if you look like a man but you're dressed as a woman, you just have to be prepared that it's going to happen every once in a while, and you're going to get called the wrong thing.

I have worked very hard, Julie, to make my preferred pronouns, your royal fetch and Highness, and I rarely get called that. People just complain they're not honoring that. And it's it's been frustrating, but I work with it, all right? I work around making it work. Yeah. Yeah. Someone said just just call him brah. That's that's good for both genders.

So you go let's go to a point here, Julie, where if we're going to have this idea of using possessive pronouns for the word reality and truth, like my truth and your truth, my reality and your reality. Okay, let's pretend that's that's real for a minute, because it's not. But it's not real. But let's let's let's give on that for a moment for the sake of conversation.

If Dylan Mulvaney's reality is that that person is a woman identifies as a woman. Well, my reality is that her biology says she's a man. Why is Dylan's reality superior to Neil's reality? Dylan's reality is no is no more superior than yours, except in Dylan's life. He doesn't get to insert into Neil's life and determine what Neil does.

That's that's human. That's how. That's how we all live. I would prefer certain things exactly my way. I would like everyone to shower every day. Guess that doesn't happen. That's true. It doesn't happen. And I don't get to decide what everyone does. I don't get to decide what the person who is standing next to me in target does with their life.

And I don't get to impose my reality onto them. The same thing is true with Dylan Mulvaney. You don't get to decide what everybody else is doing. When you have, you have created a new reality. So when I see Rachel Levine. It's a dude. Yeah. When I see when I hear Dylan Mulvaney he's done a pretty good job of looking like a chick, a woman.

Right. Sorry. Well I mean you're gonna hear it from somebody. I'm using the informal terms. A dude in a chick. That's what I. That's how I mean it. I don't mean to be denigrating, but, when I, when I look at Dylan Mulvaney, I, I Dylan's done a pretty good job of looking like a girl. Would you agree?

Actually a very beautiful girl. Yeah. So when Dylan talks though I go dude. It's a dude. Rachel levine. Dude. Am I supposed. Let me ask the the lefty world out there. Am I supposed to just toss that perception? Am I supposed to suspend it and put it somewhere else and then join in the pretending game and and and not live according to what?

My eyes, my ears, all my senses, combined with common sense, is telling me you're not just supposed to. It's mostly a demand. Yeah. I it's not a demand by everyone, but a mostly a demand. Yeah. And that's just not I. It's just not reality. I don't walk around in demand of the things of other people all of the time.

Yeah. We have to live amongst each other. Which is why in a business situation, I say you give in and you use the correct the term that that person is asking because you've got to make business work. So I'm going to give a little, you give a little. If by chance I call you the wrong name, don't freak out.

Yeah. Yeah. Don't don't don't get it. Especially if you're changing the rules daily, which is what's happening with, a very, very, very small subsection of teenagers. Yeah. They'll show up to high school. 16 year old will show up to high school and decide that day they have a new name and a different gender. Well, how am I supposed to keep up?

Sometimes a different species. Like furry. Yeah. You can't expect me to keep up with that. Yeah. No, I'm not in your day to day life. You can't demand that. So one time, you know, this reminds me of. This was years ago. Probably 20 years ago. I said other people listening will probably know what this game is, but part of the game was you can't explain the rules that participants just have to figure it out.

And so I sat there and I don't know, there were like questions and answers. I don't even remember how it went. You're you're gonna you're going to hear my disdain for this in just a moment. But when they wouldn't tell me how the game is played, I got like, viscerally mad castrated. I'm like, you're not even telling me how to play this game.

I'm just supposed to figure out. And they're they're sort of laughing because that's part of their enjoyment, is watching you try to figure out what the rules are to this stupid, idiotic game at your expense. And I just, I, I'm like, I'm not playing this. I got up from the table and I'm like, I it's dumb. Why? Why would I sit here?

You don't really tell me the rules. I just know that I'm breaking whatever secret rules you have, and then you laugh at me, or you ridicule me or what? It wasn't that angry. Like it was just like, this isn't my thing. All right, I'm just going to. I'm just going to go watch the football game because, you know, we're at a family event.

Yeah. And, that's what I feel like with the left. They've got these rules. The problem is they're always changing and they don't bother to tell you what they are. And it's designed for you to break the rules so they can then shame you and then be in charge. And it creates this imbalance because they're making the rules.

They probably don't even know what the rules are, but they're the ones that get to make the rules that are constantly changing and then shame you when you break the rules that they won't explain to you. Right, right. That's exactly how most often it works. And let's go back to the clip that you played. That's why I don't know what the you know, the unwritten decorum is in this committee meeting.

But I believe that if you are the one who's changed the rules, so you're the man who's decided you're a woman and you're expecting everyone to call you a new name. And you pronouns, then if you're going to take that bold of a step, stand up for yourself. Yeah, you don't need another member of Congress doing it for you.

Yeah. And so that bothers me about the clip. It bothers me that the Republican representative doubled down, and then you had to end the whole entire meeting because, well, can we slow down government any more? Yeah, but also, if you're truly, like, going to make everyone change their reality. Yeah. You've got to be strong enough to fight your own battle.

Yeah. You don't need somebody else doing that for you. Yeah, because all you're doing then is demanding of everyone. I demand that you fight my battle. I demand that I set the rules. I demand that, biology doesn't matter, and I can change and be whatever I want. That is so unattractive in a human. So, yeah, it is, it is I.

This is one of those clips where I didn't like. What? You didn't like that the transgender members sat there, let somebody else fight the battle. The ranking member. I was a little bothered by the chairman. Not that he said Mr.. Although I probably would have said something different. But then he kind of went on defense, like he kind of sat there when the other members said, have you no decency?

I would have mirrored that back and said, have you no decency? Reality matters in this room. Reality matters in these hearings. Now we have a member who has gender dysphoria that does not dictate my words. I will still say the words that are our definition. You can defend the definition of yes. Okay. And you're going to have to respect that.

And I think I would have pushed back more. He just kind of sat there and and took a he probably knew he was going to be inflammatory here. And then you had the Democrats are very good at, at, at coming across indignant. And I think with polite society that puts people on the defensive. And we have to learn is conservative.

You know, we have to match their aggression. Not not angrily, but with conviction and say no in this room. Reality matters. Language matters. Definition matters. Yeah. If you're going to fight, if you're going to fire the first shot, which he did. Yeah. You know, there was no doubt he knew that this was going to be inflammatory to call him Mr..

Yes. So, if you're going to fire the first shot, be prepared to fight the war. Yeah. Come with lots of ammunition. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. (208) 542-1079. It's 823. A few minutes ago, Julie, I had a very, dainty and polite sneeze and identified as dainty, and I didn't even look at him. I was like, oh, my gosh, this is so over the top.

I don't know, it was it. The reason you responded the way you did is because it was a dainty, polite sneeze. You get to set the rules. Mr.. Yeah. That's Mrs.. Today. No it isn't. We'll be right back.

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Just one, one portion of this bill. It has a $100,000 to build a new website to make it Ada compliant. They either have an issue with reading comprehension, or they are attempting to run one of the most shameful misinformation campaigns that we've ever seen in our in our lives. I think it's insulting that you are trying to test my knowledge of economics.

I'm now regret giving a question to the Associated Press. You will not continue it with me unless you introduce a duly elected representative. The right way. This hearing is adjourned. All right. It's 830 on Newstalk 178. Neil Olson, along with Julie Mason. And now the phones are open. If you'd like to join us on the Stones Automotive Group call and text line, that number is (208) 542-1079.

And we'd love to to take your calls. I just ask Julia question should we just go with this right now? Why not? Amy, it's, I think it's a fair. A fair and thought provoking question. Yeah. Okay, so here's the thought provoking question. How it. Because I would assume most of our listeners, Julie, are Trump supporters. Yes. You're a Trump supporter.

I'm a Trump supporter. I voted for him three times. Proudly so. And, I would say, here's the thing. I would say I'd vote for him again, although people would take that out of context and think that I'm wanting him to have a third term. And, you know, so I'm not saying that I have no regrets about voting for Trump supporting Trump.

I love what he's done the last month. However, however, and this is the important discussion. How do you ensure that your support of Donald Trump and his policies and the actions that he's taking does not shift into blind loyalty and an unhealthy, sycophantic relationship with the president? With president. Ha. Because I don't I don't like that. I don't I don't like cult followings and the groupthink where there's no scrutiny of the person you're you're supporting.

I don't want MAGA to be that. I don't want to get to that point where we love Donald Trump so much that we don't question anything. And you and I had an off air conversation, Julie, because he he so trolled the Democrats in the media during his speech the other night when he talked about Greenland and said, we'll get it one way or another.

And I thought, okay, he's totally trolling them. But then I in my mind, I'm not suspecting this, but if he did use the military to invade Greenland, I would be the Hemant opposed to that. Because you look at the broader historic context of what's right and what's wrong, and, and we don't invade other countries that are peaceful and not hostile to us.

We just don't we don't we don't invade them because it serves our strategic interest and and take them. So, and I don't know what that point is for me where that, where that line is drawn because I strongly support Donald Trump. I'm thrilled that he got reelected. And I think the Democrats are ridiculous in their reflexive opposition to to Donald Trump.

I just want to make sure that my support is an equally blind and reflexive as the Democrats opposition is to him. Yeah. The way that you first, posed the question was a sure. How do you assure that you don't do that? Yeah, I don't know, because I think that's different for every person. But I, I would say there needs to be strong.

Self-reflection, strong, awareness of of the way that you speak, the way that you act, the way that, you express and have these conversations with people to make sure that you're not in that blind. Just almost cult like behavior now. I don't think somebody who has a Trump flag hanging in their garage or off the back of their truck or whatever.

I don't think you can automatically label them as being in a cult. I think what you what you have to look at is the way that they approach what is done in politics. And if they 100% agree, even when Trump is wrong because he is wrong, sometimes. Yeah. Then that's when you know you've gone too far, when you can't even see that he's wrong sometimes.

Yeah. Yeah. I and by the way, I do have a Trump sign in my garage, so. Yeah. So do we. Yeah. Yeah. And I have, two, two way, to the point of having people get mad at me. Yeah, I'm on via text and send nasty texts. I've disagreed with Trump before. And if you remember, early on in 2021, he was not my choice for the next president.

I immediately was shifting to somewhere else and going, we need a fresh start. Ron DeSantis would be great. I don't back away from that. I think Ron DeSantis is going to be a great president someday. I just think the timeline has to work out appropriately for him. Yeah. And Trump was able to resurrect. And when you see different behavior from him, then you can go, okay, I can I can get back on board with this.

We can do this. I didn't appreciate the way he acted after the 2020 election. And I called it out. And there were so many people up front upset with me. But I'm not going to blindly follow somebody who's making bad decisions. Yeah, no. And I, I agree with you. I, I it's it's very complicated because if you listen to everything he said on January 6th.

He, he made it very clear. Oh for sure. For sure. And they completely ignore all of they still do. They still do this. I still hear what's his face? Raskin, I think it was Raskin saying that he incited a rebellion. He did not. If you're inciting a rebellion, you don't repeatedly say peacefully, go do this.

You you lead the charge and you say you don't let this happen. Do whatever you have to do to stop it. What? That's not what he said. He said peacefully. Make your your voices heard. So I, I don't you cannot trust these people to tell the truth about about what happened. And so yeah. And I agree with you.

I haven't always loved everything Trump is. I will say this though, those cringe moments that seem to be quite regular in his first term. We haven't had many of those like he he has been so much more disciplined and focused this time. I think you have to congratulate him for that. I, I, I think that he is more focused.

I think he's more careful with his words usually. That was my complaint with Trump. Yeah. He was not careful with his words and it got him into trouble. Yeah. And whether or not the media twists it or not, that's a guarantee it's going to happen. Yeah. So your job as a politician, when they are the ones who are always going to be hurling stones at you, don't give them the the open flesh, don't give them the ability to hurl the stones at you.

And that's all I was asking of Trump. And when he would say things that again, one of my time frames that I was really disappointed with him was directly, especially that November, that the remaining month of November, after the election, he was giving comments and making remarks that I'm like, stop doing that. You're you're I'm we're in this place.

We're in. It's just getting worse right now. He has become a different person with that. He is more careful with his words. All you have to do is look at the way that he was in the debates. He was better in the debates than he was the first time around. That was pre assassination attempt and I think there's actually sort of two dynamics at play.

We're more used to him now Tim. Like so we're we're not as sensitive to his moments. That might be cringe wise. But I also think he's just less cringing. You know, he he doesn't have another election to win. He's he's already won it. He's won the presidential power. It's his and he's owning it. So I think he's a lot more relaxed now than maybe he was in his first term for that reason.

All right. It's 838 (208) 542-1079. That is the number the Stones Automotive Group call and text line. We'll be back and continue after this.

All right. It's 846 on Newstalk 107 92085421079. That's the Stones Automotive Group call and text line really quick. We're gonna get to the phones here momentarily. But a couple of stories. In the wake of Dodge, about 13,000 department of Education workers given this pink slip today. And my question is, why didn't they take the deal Donald Trump campaigned on?

I'm going to get rid of the Department of Education. I don't know why they didn't take the deal. I did see someone float. The idea that it's pretty hard to take the deal this week. If it had been offered because your your stock portfolio is down. We're feeling a little pain in the stock market. But they weren't we weren't feeling that pain back then.

No no no no. So I appreciate that people are trying to find another way to get in a jab at Donald Trump about the stock market. But yeah, back then you could have taken it. And plus your portfolio is still going to be intact. You just roll it over. Right. That that's what I was wondering, is you knew for months Donald Trump was talking about dissolving the Department of Education, which meant the end of your job.

The deal would have looked attractive unless you just didn't believe Trump. Maybe you were in denial. Maybe you have such a cushy job that requires a 20 minute zoom meeting once a week. And that was it. I don't I don't know what made them think that, you know what? I won't take the deal and I'll take my chances.

That just seems like a crazy, crazy thing. But I don't know if we're dealing with the brightest bulbs. Well, we've given them plenty of reason to believe that they can get away with just about any. Yeah, so I that wouldn't surprise me if they thought that it wasn't going to go through second story. Apparently you have the some executive director of USAID telling employees shred everything on your way out.

Get get just destroy all the all the documents on your way out, which I think is a crime. Yeah. This is not rumor. This was reported on CNN. This was reported in Politico. This is not rumor. The email is circulating. Yeah. And so if you saw something about this and and you're like, well, I didn't know if it was true.

This one is for sure. True. Yeah. You and I mentioned to each other yesterday we wish Pam Bondi was acting a little quicker. I think this is one of those things. Once that email was leaked, you get right in there. Yeah, I would have said cease and desist right now. And then you send in agents to secure all the documents because they're hiding.

They're hiding their their activities. All right, let's go to the phones. (208) 542-1279 caller how are you today? I'm wonderful. Good morning. Julie. Good morning, Your Royal Highness. Thank you. Thank you. Good morning. As we're talking about, the McBryde situation, I, I could have sworn to 2 or 3 times, I think, when, what's his name? Keith self.

The guy running the committee. Yeah. When he when he says, when he addresses Sarah or Tim or whatever his name is as Mister McBride, I think he responds back to the chairperson as Madam Chairman. Thank you, Madam Chairman. So she turns around and insults him right away, so deliberately mis genders the chair, the chairperson. Okay. Yeah. You know, I have the clip right here.

Let's just listen to the whole thing again. Hold on. I now recognize the representative from Delaware, Mr. McBride. Thank you, Madam Chair. Ranking. That's exactly what happened. Cat. Yeah, I didn't there was. I think he he he does stand up for himself there, but, I mean, in kind of a chintzy way. But I heard that, and I thought, well, how did we miss that?

So, yeah. No, thank you for pointing that out. I don't know why I didn't catch it. Yeah, I didn't even catch that either. Yeah. Can I drop one of the thing that's been, I've been wanting to call for a while about. Sure. So on January 6th, I was there at the, the Capitol building, and, and, I called you guys actually the morning, January 7th.

And then shortly thereafter, I started receiving phone calls from the FBI in, in, Pocatello office. And I received over the next couple of months, I received four different phone calls from them. I got calls into the place I was working, and and my boss kind of made a big deal about. Hey, you got to lay low.

I don't you don't know what they're going to do with you. And so for the next 5 or 6 months, I just every day I was living with that little bit of fear. And then when doubt starts or, you know, when Trump was, elected, there started to be a little bit of fear in the FBI that they're going to, you know, if they participated in the January 6th investigations, they were going to lose their jobs.

Why did they want to know the the names of the agents involved? And and I thought, gosh, that's that's kind of relieving to know that in all those nights I wasn't able to sleep good. Maybe the coin got flipped over and they're not sleeping that good thinking maybe there's a consequence coming. So can I ask you a couple of questions about this?

Because what what exactly did you do on January 6th? And I don't mean a minute by minute, but what could possibly be the most egregious thing that you could be prosecuted for when you were at the Capitol on January 6th, 2021? The most egregious would be trespassing. I walked on to the grass around the Capitol building. I actually went up to the stairs leading up to the door to the House of Representatives.

The door was standing open. I stood there, looked inside, walked around, walked away because I knew that wasn't what we were there for. Okay. And that that alone. I mean, all of that is just a public property, like it's. I've been to Washington, DC many times. You're free to walk around the Capitol that especially on the outside.

So why did that trigger them? I'm just assuming that their assumption was anyone that was at the Capitol building was there for mal intent. That's all I can imagine. Well, I mean, when they called me, they wanted access to my my Facebook account, my Google pictures. They wanted access to everything with my my permission. So I'm sure they got that whether I gave it to them or not.

But yeah, that's what they were asking me for. And I said, I'm not giving you any of that. I didn't do anything wrong. If you want to find me guilty of something, you're going to have to find it. And that's just the way I was. So were they looking for any evidence that you may have been conspiring to cause a problem, or to bring violence or vandalism or mayhem?

I would venture that's the reason why they wanted my Facebook account. Yeah, I, I mean, nothing, nothing else would have tied me. They did ask me what I was wearing so that they could identify me in pictures. And they said, well, I'm the guy in the blue jeans in a red hat that says Make America Great Again. That's great.

So so they then how did they know that you were there? Like how how did they connect the fact that you were there and give you this phone call or these phone calls? I bet they geofence this phone. Oh, I'll bet. Yeah. Well, they also, the first agent that called me told me that he heard me on your program.

Oh, really? Yeah. So I would say that they not only geofence me, they're somebody. Now. I'm not going to acknowledge me. I'm just telling you. He told me he. You heard me on your radio station. I wonder if somebody turned him in. Yeah. Possible by. They just recognized you by voice. And then, I get I don't know, that's weird.

How did they get your number? Did they tell you how they got your number? Well, I, I was a policeman in Pocatello for 20 years. It's not. I'm not I'm not a hidden person out there by any means, I gotcha. Okay, well, you sure sound like a hoot. Let me. For them to not sleep well at night made me feel good, I.

Yeah, I have to say that it just made my heart feel better, so. Yeah. Well, thanks, guys. I appreciate you letting me talk to you. Thank you. Thank you for the. Have a great day with it. The tide has turned, hasn't it? Yes it has it feels good. Mar at 854 on Newstalk 1078. We'll come back final our final segment this hour, but we have another hour ahead of us on Newstalk 107 on.

All right. It's 858 on Newstalk 1079. And we do want to remind you that Clay Travis and Buck Sexton debut here at Newstalk 1079 on Monday. They'll be on 10 to 1. Mark Lee Van Kampen Robbins will shift from, 1 to 4. We're looking forward to it. It's going to be fantastic. It's all ready to go too, by the way.

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Good morning. Welcome back. Our two underway. (208) 542-1079. That's the Stones Automotive group Colin Text Line if you'd like to be a part of the program today. I'm watching the TV right now. And, you have anti-Israel protesters wanting a Mahmoud Khalil to be released, even though he's a terrorist sympathizer and has incited anti-American pro terrorist sympathies on our campuses.

He's not I mean, he's here on a student visa and the Trump administration, basically. You know what in in Trump lingo, get him out of here. And, he should be out of here when you come here. You don't foster anti-American sentiment of the country. Who's hosting you? Well, we've had Democrats who, since this has come about over the last couple of days, and that they're trying to find a place to get this guy out of here or do it again.

Get him out of here. Yeah. That they have said he didn't do anything wrong. What? I don't know how you don't supported a terrorist group. Yes. And was actually lobbying for those terrorist activities to happen on our land here. So it's it's a dual issue. He's supporting terrorist groups, and he wanted the terrorism to exist inside America's borders.

He. Yeah, that's a crime. Well, I, I, I mean, may I to say nothing wrong. That's not wrong to you to support a terrorist group that has killed Americans, much less October 7th. Need we remember that horrific day. And, you know, I mean, I understand conflict's complicated, I get it. And, people hate Israel. Okay. I, you know, it's I'm not saying it's just this simple issue, black and white, but, I don't you don't have a right to be here on a student visa.

You're here is a it's a privilege. It's you're you're a here's a guest. You're granted the opportunity, but you don't have this full array of hatred that you can exercise while you're here. It's rich coming from the party. That was perfectly fine with parents at school board meetings being labeled as far right terrorists. Yeah. So somebody who's advocating for the child to not have to get the Covid shot is more dangerous to these people than somebody who's siding with Hamas.

Yes. Yeah. So I have a Caroline Leavitt clip. Okay. For whom I have a platonic crush. Is that a thing, a platonic? I have a platonic crush. I have celebrity crushes. She could be called a celebrity. Yeah, well, I think she's just so good at her job. Yeah, that's what I like about her. I mean, she's young enough to be my daughter.

I have kids older than her, but she is so good at her job. Listen, this. Under the immigration and Nationality Act, the secretary of State has the right to revoke, a green card or a visa for individuals who serve or are adversarial to the foreign policy and national security interests of the United States of America. And Mahmud Khalil was an individual who was given the privilege of coming to this country to study at one of our nation's finest universities and colleges.

And he took advantage of that opportunity of that privilege by siding with terrorists, Hamas terrorists who have killed innocent men, women and children. This is an individual who organized group protests that not only disrupted, college campus classes and harassed Jewish American students and made them feel unsafe on their own college campus, but also distributed pro Hamas propaganda fliers with the logo of Hamas.

That is what the behavior and activity that this individual engaged in. And I have those fliers on my desk, they were provided to me by the Department of Homeland Security. I thought about bringing them into this briefing room to share with all of you, but I didn't think it was worth the dignity of this room to bring that pro Hamas propaganda.

But that's what this individual distributed on the campus of Columbia University. And this administration is not going to tolerate individuals having the privilege of studying in our country and then siding with pro terrorist organizations that have killed Americans. We have a zero tolerance policy for siding with terrorists, period. Get him out of here. There you go. That's what you got to do.

And, I'm all in favor of that. So the interesting thing, and this applies also to criminals who are being, removed from America and sent back to their homelands, those that were here illegally via illegal immigration. Why are we clutching our pearls when their home countries don't want them back yet? Shouldn't that be the biggest sign to everyone that like, it's the here's your sign.

Yeah, that this guy's a bad dude. Yeah, they were happy to see it go. We're going to be happy to see you go. Yeah, you make me happy. Really? Yeah. When you leave.

What's the saying? Don't let the door hit you in the rear end. Hey. No, it's. Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

I mean, that's one version of it. Okay? You had never heard that before. No, I know that one. Oh, you know that one. Okay. You were just opting for striking for a little more class, but, you know, here we are. Well, wait a minute. You ask the question, is that the phrase, I'm like, that's not the phrase I know.

All right. (208) 542-1079 that is the Stones Automotive Group call in text line. Okay. Where the good Lord split. Shit. That's that's just funny, all right? I don't even view that as impolite, necessarily. I think people hear that go. That's really funny. I know where that is.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, I, I why is this controversial, like, because everything's controversial. I mean, that's really the overarching theme. Trump's doing it. That's why it's controversial. Everything that happens that comes from the Trump administration is controversial. Can you are okay. Could are any other pearls clutched more than the Democrats pearls? You know, I don't think so.

I can't think of a group maybe liberal entertainers, maybe, you know. Yeah, yeah, but Justin Trudeau, I try to think of people who participate in pearl clutching on a regular basis. Why are they such pansies? Like, I think back at the joint address to Congress, here's Donald Trump. He's a very historic and consequential president. And I'm not saying you have to love him or be sycophantic about it, but the American people spoke pretty loudly November 5th.

But yet you still show up with your stupid little signs and hold them up, and you act like little petulant children, and you have absolutely nothing, nothing to offer to the American people. Nothing I don't America doesn't want anything they're putting forward right now. Yeah, it's embarrassing for them. Well, and my question is, where was your pearl clutching when, Biden didn't hold a cabinet meeting for more than a year?

Yeah, you were okay with that. But we had a complete meltdown in the mainstream media yesterday, 24 hours ago, because the premier of it was on tour Ontario, was going to, institute a tariff on electricity that Americans use that Canada provides. Yes. Well that's over. It took like 16 hours and that that tariff is gone. I will tell you, this is, almost a form of comedic entertainment for me where, in fact, I think we asked earlier, I said, how long before Canada caves?

Might have been something with Trudeau, but, they're already caving. Yes. This thing's like three minutes long. I'm not going to play the whole thing, but here he is, Doug Ford, who I think is a premier of Ontario. Yeah yeah yeah okay. Here it is. Well, just a little while ago I had an opportunity to speak to Secretary Lot.

Nick and Secretary Lot. Nick has sent out an olive branch to us. They come down and immediately, meet with them, meet with the whole trade administration and, discuss the future rather than waiting till April the 2nd. Threats going back and forth, tit for tat. I've agreed to suspend temporarily, and we always have that tool in our toolkit, until we sit down over the next day or two, I'll be heading down to Washington, along with Dominic LeBlanc.

And, we'll have a good discussion. Okay. So they're caving? Yeah, it's always blended in. And, look, the same thing can be said for Donald Trump. He he you could say that he caved or suspended. Yeah, but this is what negotiation is. And I don't know why everyone considers the way that Trump negotiates so ineffective. If you're on the left.

He secured or at least opened the door on the Ukraine side for a 30 day peace deal between Ukraine and Russia, so that people can quit dying. If Biden had done this, oh my goodness, the applause, they would have found an award to give him. Yeah, we're hardly talking about it on the mainstream media this morning. Yeah, they're it's hardly even being mentioned.

And again, we don't know the conversation that Trump has had with Putin. If he does get this all done with Putin today and we get 30 days to figure something out now, no praise will be given. But when we don't know last week what's going on with Putin, all they could do was insult Trump. So I've heard little whispers of this that if Trump meaning his administration.

But if Trump negotiates a peace deal and it brings an end to the war in Ukraine, he absolutely deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. This been a very deadly war. About a million people. And I think we don't realize it because it's not on in our hemisphere. But there have been so many people who have died in that conflict, and it does need to come to an end.

We can't just keep sending money. You know what? You can send money and you can send weapons. And if if you send enough to overwhelmingly win the war, if the leaders want to win the war, then that can be a good thing. But I think what we've seen, the pattern that I've observed over the past three years is that cash and machinery and and weapons have been sent to prolong the war.

To keep it going, to keep that gravy train moving and, and maybe both sides want that. Maybe, maybe both Zelensky and Putin have been benefiting from the war continuing. But it's got to stop because of all the killing. We, we don't want to keep sending our taxpayer dollars to just a prolonged war and, and what do you do like at some point Vietnam started being called a quagmire because it just appeared to be an unwinnable conflict that nobody really had the will to finish.

And I'm starting to feel that. Well, no, I've been feeling that way for a while about Ukraine. It's it's also a quagmire where lots of money is changing hands and, is there. It could just be prolonged indefinitely. And Trump, that's not going to work for Trump. I'm sure Trump doesn't like the death and destruction that it's causing.

He really doesn't like all of the, American taxpayer money that just seems to be endlessly, being funneled that way. Yeah, both of those things are not going to be acceptable for Trump, and he's doing his best to make it stop. Yeah. And guess what? When the left stands in the way, you're standing for more death and you're standing for more pain to the American taxpayer.

That's it. That's what you're standing for. Yeah. You're and I appreciate that. You, you think you're doing something big by putting an overlay on your Facebook account that says I stand with Ukraine. Well I, I'm going to say it one more time. You better identify which Ukraine, which Ukraine you stand with. You stand with the Ukrainian people.

Yeah. Or do you stand with the government who is led by a man whose people are dying every day and attacks and he somehow made it possible for him to travel to Europe and secure a multi-million dollar estate for him and his family while his people die. Yeah. Look, he. Julie, I believe he's an actor. I know, that's weird.

That may sound like a conspiracy theory, but we're there's a trend, there's a trend here where you have, I saw a video of interviews before AOC became a member of Congress. It was almost like a Hollywood audition. They wanted to talk to different people to see. Would they be a good fit in here? Would you be a good fit?

And there was tons of money thrown. It probably originated with Soros. And finally this they settled on AOC because she has kind of this magnetic personality. And to some she's pretty and, and she just sort of drew people into her. She won the audition and they made her a member of Congress. And so I, I look at this and I have the same feeling about Zelensky.

He came from the entertainment realm. So did Donald Trump. I'm not going to sort of ignore something obvious here, but it it's like Zelensky was installed that here's a role. He can play this. He knows how to act. We're going to set him up with a costume. And we're going to dress him in these kind of war board fatigue type uniforms and send him out there.

And it feels like he's just playing a part, and he is being handsomely rewarded for playing them, for playing that part. I would also say, since Zelensky has been put in position or some people would say he won, but he's they're not really, fairly anymore because they canceled an election. So however you want to, I don't care how you frame it, but since he's been the president, the man has made massive money.

Oh, yeah. And Trump, in an interview just a couple of days ago, talked about since he has been president, he has lost billions of dollars. Oh yeah. From his portfolio. Yeah. So they may have the same background and entertainment background. One did it for sacrifice. One did it to enrich. Yeah. Yeah. It's you're not wrong. All right. 923 on Newstalk 179 and, let's break away.

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Duty, duty. I had a thought, and I lost it. Do you ever do that? Daily. It's like walking into the other room. And you knew you were going to fetch something there or do it, and you're like, why am I in this room? Earlier today, Neil and I were, throwing topics back and forth that we wanted to ask Senator Crapo about, topics that are very, you know, just in the news cycle.

And I was, jotting some notes down for myself, and I spelled subject wrong. And the second I wrote it, I knew it was instantaneous. I wrote subject, and I went, did I really just spell subjects that way? And, both Neil and I said, when we're writing because he's writing his novel and I write my crime, stories all the time, my, my crime scripts that every once in a while we pause, we'll be getting ready to type a word, and all of a sudden we're just halted, going.

How do you spell that word? How do you spell that word? And it's an easy word like subject. Yeah. Egg. What happens that throws you you're typing. You know, at 90 words per minute you're just flying. And then all of a sudden dead stop. How do you spell that word? Yeah, yeah. It's weird. It's like your brain forgets something that was familiar or a word is spelled perfectly correct, but it looks wrong still.

Yes. That happens to like, is that really how you spell it? Yeah. I was going to tell you this, I, I but I forgot to tell you. So I listen to audiobooks and the other day I was listening to one and, the, I believe that the actual word that was intended was windy w I and y Windy Road.

Yeah. The person reading the book pronounced it Windy road. The windy road. I was listening in and I, I always do two things at once, so I wasn't like, I was in mass concentration, but the the reader said Windy Road. And I went, what? Okay. Question was it an I voiced book? No, she this is a lady who reads a lot of books.

Wow. But that doesn't mean that sometimes they probably don't use eye of themselves. Okay. Because I just looked it up and I thought, I wonder if you could spell it with a D for windy. And it says no. The correct spelling is windy. To avoid confusion with the word wind meaning air movement. Use winding when referring to curving or instead of windy.

Windy. Yeah. Okay so.

927 on Newstalk 107 Angel Olsen Julie Mason named you. (208) 542-1079. That's the Stones Automotive Group call and text line, and we'd love to have you join us. You know, I mentioned earlier that if Donald Trump negotiates peace in. So he made the point. It's not the Ukraine, it's just Ukraine. Yeah. So then why do some people say the BYU or the Ohio State?

Who who determines where you use so you can put the the decal, the definite article on this. Like is it who made up that rule? Because I heard it's the Ukraine. I don't I don't know what that rule is because sometimes it sounds right. But you can't explain the logic behind. Right? I'm trying to think too. I use that very often when I'm referencing Ukraine.

I think I used to, but I don't, and I don't really say the Ukraine anymore. Okay. Yeah, I don't think I use it very often. I think now I just say Ukraine. But anyway, well, let me ask this. If you not that this would apply the same in other situations, but in my mind it's a possibility.

We have said the Ukraine because it's a, it's a region of, of that whole so larger. Yeah. So we like the, the Crimean peninsula or the like it's a, it's a sub region of something larger. So you say the Ukraine, but we don't really do that in other I mean sometimes we do, sometimes we don't. So I don't know why it, it was always called the Ukraine.

Because that sounds just as weird as the Ohio State and the BYU or the Coeur d'Alene or the Boise or. Yeah, I'm going to drive to the Arco and get a pickles place burger. And, you know, we could have an expanded discussion about names like when when somebody says, yeah, it's it reads GM in Idaho Falls.

I'm like, yeah. You read reads. You said in Idaho Falls, excuse me. So I got it wrong. Other people just cringed because I got it wrong. But when I say it read Jim because it's not reads Jim, but it is read story. It is. You're right, it is. Or, Fred Meyers. It's not Fred Meyers. Yeah, it's Fred Meyer.

Yeah. Anyway, I and I'm not a word Nazi. Like, I just, I just absorb it, like, I don't I don't correct people because I, I don't I don't want to be corrected for my mistakes. Corrected us today because we were saying a word wrong. Oh, yeah. It's the pronunciation. It's vehemently not Virginia. Mentally, I think I've always said, I think I've always said vehemently, yeah.

And I thought, that, you know, some words you can have multiple accepted definitions of or pronunciations of words. This one is a one of them. It every, every pronunciation I found was vehemently. And I've been saying that word wrong. You'd think I would have learned it better at the library to stop it, because all you do is poke people with that.

That is an accepted pronunciation by the horse. And he's going to use it just to bug you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's that's my question of the day. What words have you learned to pronounce at the library? I don't know, on my podcast people complain about the way that I say major. Yeah, they say that I put too much emphasis on me and it sounds like I say my oh major instead of measure.

Yeah. They want me to say measure okay. And I say major okay. I'm like it's a on people. That's a I've actually gotten a three star review for saying measure wrong. Yeah. Oh really. 111 word dropped me like that. You know what you say back to him. I'll go to the library and look it up. That's what you say.

Back to. All right. (208) 542-1079. That's just a regionalism. Yeah. Lots of little things. Yeah. Somebody just said pillow instead of pillow. Hello. Yeah. That regionally we say put my head on the pillow on the pillow instead the pillow. Pillow. Yeah. Yeah okay I think I yeah I've noticed that one too. So okay. (208) 542-1079.

Yesterday we played clips from the view which is a terrible way to start out the work. But there's more. Yeah. Riley Gaines is now reacting to Lupis idiocy. Listen I will never not be impressed by how unintelligent and out of touch with reality the women of the viewer. When you come in and you say, oh, you know, these men, these are men, you know, competing or competing against women.

You're assuming that the women are weak and just can't do anything yourself. Have you seen female athletes? They know what they're doing. So I'm not sure what's going on or why this is an issue. The level of commitment to idiocy is actually remarkable. Let me help you here Bobby. This issue matters because women matter because reality matters.

These are the same people who at one point screamed and screamed, follow the science. Doesn't seem like Bobby Goldberg is following the science now. Also, literally no one thinks that men shouldn't be playing in women's sports because women are weak. It is not misogynistic to point out that mediocre men can beat exceptional women. The inverse of that is not true.

Take the U.S. women's national soccer team, for example. And if that wasn't enough, watch Whoopi Goldberg blaspheme. The Lord God doesn't make mistakes. No, and the challenge is not to the trans people. It's to the people who are not trans. That's what God is looking to see how you treat people. Yeah, that's why I feel like this goes without saying.

But God does not pick and choose who he will judge on Judgment Day. Although Whoopi did get one thing right. God does not make mistakes. Therefore he does not put people in the wrong body. Okay, that's the point we made. Yeah, you said that yesterday. That everything what he was saying in here, she thought was a solid argument.

Well, you can turn it right around on her. And, the one argument you you turn right around on her that is data based because God doesn't make mistakes. That's not database, that's faith based. But data shows exactly what Riley Gaines said. Mediocre men can beat exceptional women. You know, that's because we're different. Yeah. And different is okay.

Yeah, yeah. That's fine. Yeah. Okay. And you know what? This is an 8020 issue. Do we? I'm just having a moment of self-reflection here. Most people would say when the American public is 80% in favor of something. Okay, you just stop talking about it. I think I'm on a lot of things. You can. I don't think you can on here.

Because the reason we're in the place that we were three years ago. Yeah. With Biden putting all of these desires into his cabinet and into prominent positions, that's true. It's because we allowed it. Yeah, he forced the issue and then we allowed it and then. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's a that's a good point. That's I think there's other issues.

Yes. Yeah. Once you've got it at 8020 there's not going to be this continued pressure. I don't think this is one we can let go of. Yeah. Yeah. No I, I don't either. All right. 936 let's stay on task a little bit and, break away. We'll be back after this news break and continue. If you'd like to join us.

We've had a lot of people that have sent in their pronunciation observations. Around here, people say, hey, bells like bells instead of hay bales. Yeah. I think I've heard that. Yeah I think I bet I do that. Yeah. And I've Hemant Lee disagree with. We'll be right back.

And. Oh okay. NIT pickers belong in Canada okay. Okay. When we were talking about Rosie O'Donnell, we got a couple of texts saying that Ellen has quietly come back to America. No way. Really? Yeah, I let's look it up real fast. I don't know if that's the truth or not. Oh she's getting a divorce from Portia. Yes.

That's better than being, having your death faked like her previous spouse. What was her name. And and hash and hash. Wait her death was faked. I thought she died in a car crash. Yeah. A lot of people think it's faked. Yeah. Really? That she sits up on the gurney. Oh, I have heard about this. Yes. So it's all just to get her out of the situation that she's living in secret somewhere.

Because the situation with Ellen was so dangerous. Even I'm whispering now, is this a secret? Like she was going to have her killed? Yeah, like it was going to go bad. Is Ellen that evil? I don't know, who knows if that's true or not, I don't know, I mean, I don't know, I, I'm looking on Bing. Bing is useless.

Yeah. I don't see anything about her coming back, but who knows? That was the first that I had heard. From those two listeners, I haven't seen it anywhere else, but I'm not really on that side of TikTok either, or I that wouldn't that probably wouldn't pop on my social media accounts. Yeah. Okay. Let's do Grand Peaks when we get back.

Okay. Also on that, Columbia student in New York, we went through an entire civil rights movement for people to feel safe in public places like college campuses. Yeah, true point. Democrats. Yeah. We're okay with that. Yeah. Did you read the story about Gene Hackman eating at a Rexburg restaurant back in the 80s? I saw the headline.

I have not read the story. I read it, it was really good. It was really good. Now I can't find it. It's down a little bit further. There it is. Oh my gosh. I remember this restaurant, The Rain Tree and then it became Frontier Pies. Yes. Now I think they've torn it down right. I think that Bill is gone.

People drove, but they drove past it on their way. Beatrix.

Did they tear it down? I think so, I don't drive in two. Yeah, I don't work that way. I go the other exits now. But. Yeah. Hold on.

941 on Newstalk 179. Well, in the wake of the tragic passing of Gene Hackman, kind of a cool local story emerged. Julie East Idaho News, wrote about this apparently back in the 1980s, he quietly dined at the Rain Tree restaurant in Rexburg, which became Frontier Pub. It's right there where it's curved, right? Like, yes, where it curves into Rexburg.

And then you hit the roundabout and apparently, there's spotlight writer.com, longtime Rigby resident Jodi Cottle remembers the night their paths crossed when she was working as a hostess at the Raintree, looking out the window for arriving patrons. Cottle, who is a Ricks College student at the time, did not recognize the figure approaching from the direction of the best Western Cotton Tree Inn in the dark.

It wasn't until Hackman, wearing a turtleneck and a jacket, walked through the door and stood right in front of Cottle that she recognized the Hollywood star, who was still riding high on the box office success of the first two Superman movies. And she said, my first thought was, I know who this guy is, your Lex Luthor. Which is kind of cool.

So he wanted wine, but it was a Sunday. Rexburg is a dry town. You can't get wine in Rexburg on a Sunday back then. So they actually called somebody in Idaho Falls. They made the trip, got the wine, brought it back, made a steak dinner for Gene Hackman and he dined for a couple of hours and that everyone who was there said he was just super nice and approachable.

They did. They had a dining area that was cordoned off for him, and he asked if he could have one of those tables to just be more, more alone. And and they're like, yeah, you can do that. So they gave him a little bit of VIP treatment, special treatment. But they said he was just very, very nice. And you know, not not presumptuous at all.

So great. It's good to remember those stories and, and and not make his life about the, the tragic way that it ended. Because you can really dwell on that. And it was probably very, very horrible for several days. Yeah, yeah. And if you hadn't heard his, they believe they're still investigating, but they believe that his wife died of hantavirus.

Yeah. Which is a rodent related virus. And that he died a few days later of congestive heart failure. Maybe he wasn't able to get the medicine that he usually has and passed away. But he probably wasn't eating. Well. Yeah. I think she was his full time caregiver. Well, and, you know, we we talk trash and smack about lots of, of celebrities, but there are some good ones that don't drive you nuts.

And I think Gene Hackman was one of those that was just roundly admired. Yeah. Yeah. And I think you I mean, when you live in New Mexico, I think you're doing that on purpose. So you're not in the middle of all that. Yeah. Yeah, right. He left Hollywood and and, Yeah. You know, you look at a situation like this and you're like, that's not how someone who's contribute so much should go, should leave this world like, it just it just didn't didn't feel right.

So sad. But a cool a cool story. Yeah. You saw Taylor Swift in public once. I did, I did in front of her. She owns an entire building in, believe it's Chelsea, which is, a district in within Manhattan. And, we were purposely trying to find it, so we were on the lookout. We were walking down to, the 911 memorial, and we were like, we can walk.

We're good. It's a beautiful day. And there's so much interesting architecture here in Manhattan. So we were just trudging along and we thought we saw it. And as we headed down the street, it's got a very distinct roof, which is why we thought we saw it. And as we were headed down the street, parade of black Suburbans came past this and we got to see her from probably about.

And I'm really bad at distances like a half a block. We got to see her, get out her security detail, get her into apartment building. And then we'd spent some time talking to the paparazzi after. That was super interesting. And they said, it's all set up. Set out to all set up. He knew she was coming.

They waited for the photographers to get in place before she got out of the car, like everything was set up and her people set it up right, like they link it and it. It's all an act. She looks like she's fleeing from the paparazzi. They get the snapshot. Whatever. Yep. Sell more magazines. She gets more publicity. Absolutely.

That's how it was. All was. What a scam we are psychologically scam. Well, we're so gullible too. Yeah, I know I've mentioned this a couple times on here, but just because somebody posts something on March 12th that's today. Does not mean the picture was taken on March 12th. And a lot of people still believe that social media is real time events.

Yeah. It's not no no it's not, it's not. Yeah. Okay. Let's go to the phones. Hi, caller. You're on the Neil Larson show. Good morning. Good morning. How are you? Good, good. Hey, I have two quick comments. First of all, I think Gene Hackman was probably the best villain I ever enjoyed on any movie. He was fantastic.

It's sad to see him go the way he went. Yeah. Second of all, and if I'm tuning in late, I'm sorry. You may have already mentioned this, but on your pronunciation list. Yeah. My biggest, my biggest pet peeve is to hear television advertisements that say, In Idaho Falls. Falls, Idaho Falls. Oh, okay. Yeah. Interesting. It's just it's just a cutesy little trend.

And to me, when somebody says in Idaho false, they're intentionally saying it because they think it's cute, it just really bugs me. Sorry. Okay, now now I'm going to have to look for that. I had not heard that. Now, if I hear it, it's going to bug me too I so that's why I put it in your mind, Neal.

I wanted you to enjoy like I do. I appreciate it. Well, no. We do. Thank you for the call. All right. 285421079. Yeah I'll have to pay attention I haven't noticed that one. Yeah I haven't either. I've listened to several reports about the murders in North Idaho at the college campus and everyone is pronouncing later county wrong.

Latah is that are they say it. Yeah. Yeah. If you had never seen that word before yet. That's a very natural Latah County. Yeah, yeah. I just sent my daughter a reel last night. Of the hockey players from the Utah Hockey Club. Yeah. Pronouncing Utah City's like to walla. Oh, yeah. And they're just butchering them. Yeah. Tully.

Yeah. Next caller, welcome to the show. Good morning. Good morning. I think you two should get back on schedule. Schedule? Yeah, I heard that so many times, and I got two correct people. Plus schedule. It's schedule. It's that bugs the heck out of me. And that was out at the site when I worked as an engineer out there.

Schedule, schedule? Yeah. There's no acceptable pronunciation like that for sure. Other than schedule. Schedule. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. And where are all the transgender women lining up to play in men's sports? I don't scratching my head. You have an answer? Well, there's nothing to be gained. If you do that, you're just going to get annihilated. Well, you. Yeah, it was a thought.

No no, no no. Good point. Thank you. Thank you for the call. Sorry. My mind hung up on something because we had the previous caller who said some people pronounce Idaho Falls, Idaho false. And he just said, where are all the transsexuals? Yes. Lining anything? It's trans, isn't it? Trans. Yeah. It's trans. It's fine. It's. I'm not nit picking.

I just thought it was sort of an interesting weaving there of what happened. I would also say this about that word trans trans male, trans female. I bet you could gather 100 people in Walmart. Yeah. And they couldn't tell you what the definition is. So if I said a trans woman they wouldn't know that that is a man who has transitioned to a woman.

They don't know which way that means. Yeah. Right. Right. And so that adds to the confusion, of our conversation earlier is that there's no clarity to that. And so that you might make a mistake just because you don't know what it actually means. Yeah. Yeah. That's that. Yeah. That's true. I would say I didn't know up until a couple of years ago, like I didn't know what the some of those rules.

Right. And we talked about a far more than other people do. The average person is not going to they're going to get it wrong. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's go to the next caller. Caller good morning. Another pronunciation thing that I hear sometimes there's people who say a crossed instead of a cross or amongst instead of a month featured on anybody that says that.

Do you. I've heard it once or twice a times. By. All right. Thank you for the oh, another one like that is we do a pretty crappy job as English speaking people identifying past, past and past. Ed possess Ed when we write it out. Oh, yes, we we mix those two up all the time. Okay, so I don't want to correct the last caller.

However, amongst is actually a word okay. It's among with s t at the end across. It's not across. Just not a word. Yeah it's not, but amongst is a word. There there is a shade of difference though. And the word if you're interested. Hold on various the amongst usage. Here we go. This sort of overcorrection is common when a writer wants to sound fancier, educated.

But there's another overcorrection that gets grief from usage. Commentators. The substitution of the variant amongst for among or between and, It's a perfect example of the criticism against amongst calling it an archaic ism that is pretentious at best. But our evidence doesn't confirm that view amongst is certainly less common than among. It's used more common in British English than in American English.

And those two facts may be reason enough for amongst to stand out to an American speaker. But we have many not so quaint and unpretentious American uses of it in our in our files. So use just less common sense. But still, it is a word. Okay, so that people have a lot of pet peeves. Yeah, yeah, they have words that they get annoyed that people say wrong.

Oh especially instead of especially. It's especially. Oh yeah. Yeah. Someone so nicely pointed out that I say jail wrong. I know I do. Thank you. I've been told multiple times yes. Then there's the instead of wash people say warsh. And somebody said Pocatello instead of Pocatello. Oh yeah. Yeah I've definitely heard that a lot.

So yeah. All right. Well let's take a break because we're about out of time here. We'll come back and we'll wrap up the hour on Newstalk 179.

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Okay. I you know what? Because of doing this job for so long. I don't I'm glad when I get like the vehement thing, I'm more embarrassed that I've been like stressing the wrong syllable and like, you know, I, I don't really see when somebody says gel versus gel, you're not doing it wrong. It's just your that's just the just my accent.

Yes. You, you know how it's spelled. Yeah. Yeah. So you know what I mean. So that's different than me making the mistake of the Lee when that's just simply the wrong syllable accent. Oh yeah. And I'll say the Hemant Lee correctly. Now. Yeah. Just like I did with I had we had somebody call in early on when I was working with Neil and made sure to correct me to not say any ways.

It's anyway. Yeah. And I've done it right ever since, because that's not an accent thing. That is. That was yes, we looked it up and it was wrong. And I'm like, okay, I can make that fix. I can I can stop saying it that way. Yeah. And now I say anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Like the jail jail thing I how is that different than if I went into the studio and Domingo he says words differently because he has an accent English as a second language to him.

I'm not going to correct his accent until if he's saying the word in a way that I know exactly what he's what he's saying, I'm not going to correct that, because that's a there's a reason why he has that, that accent. Well, the people who get mad at me, like the person who gave me the three star review for measures.

The South adds additional letters to words all of the time. That is true. Yeah. And we think it's cute and eclectic and neat that they have an accent. And I'm from Idaho and now I can't. Yeah right. Yeah. Oh yeah. How do you I don't know the answer I say crayon I say crayon too. Yeah. You know what another it's very similar to this is coupon versus coupon.

I say coupon I say coupon as well. Yeah. Perilous in the Star Spangled Banner I get judgy on that one. How do people say it wrong? Or am I saying it right? Are you do am I doing it wrong? I have no idea. I don't I don't know either. You know what? There's one that I noticed the other day that people say they'll add a tea that doesn't exist like you.

You didn't say this, but it's a word that does get mispronounced like the word Chelsea. Around here, people say Chelsea. Oh, yeah. Or Kelsey is Kelsey. Yes. And there's no there's no he they're they're adding a, consonant and it's not, it's not they're like it's. Yeah. Oh, Nina versus Nina. Did you see that? I did see that one.

Hey. But that I probably would have done that wrong. I would have to because that's the typical pronunciation. Yeah. In today's world. So yeah, that's, that's that's a hard one. James says what about caramel versus caramel? Well, yeah. I.

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