3.11.2025 -- NLS -- Trump’s Self-Deportation Deal Reshapes Immigration

On this episode with Neal and Julie, they discuss the evolving immigration policies under the Trump administration, particularly the repurposing of an app previously used by the Biden administration to facilitate illegal entry. Now, it is being used to encourage voluntary self-deportation with the opportunity for legal re-entry. They analyze how this approach is a strategic move that makes it difficult for Democrats to argue against, as it emphasizes humane treatment and adherence to the law.

Neal and Julie also reflect on past policies affecting immigration, industry needs, and the political implications of these changes. They dive into the importance of a legal and reliable workforce, particularly in agriculture, and explore whether these shifts could lead to a broader realignment of voter loyalties.

Additionally, they take a look back at the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, recalling the initial reactions, lockdowns, and the role media and government played in shaping public fear. They discuss how certain public figures pushed back against restrictions and how those early decisions continue to impact public trust in institutions today.

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Transcript

And good morning. It's 807 on Newstalk 1079. It's Tuesday and I want to welcome you to this two. We got crazy going on. I got a little twitchy, and I'm glad Julie reminded me that it's the five year anniversary of the beginning of the pandemic. But at the same time, when I think back about the pandemic, some people call it the Plandemic.

But when I think back about the pandemic, I so much there's just so much, there's so much about what the body politic did to the population and how our brains were changed. And I don't mean by the virus, I mean by the psychological impacts of how they handled the the plan. Demic. So we may get to some of that, although I feel like so many of us have largely moved on and it feels like an anomaly.

You remember when you were growing up? If you're a Gen Xer like me, you grew up in the 1980s. Ronald Reagan was the president, and life certainly wasn't perfect. And you had challenges and there were cultural hurdles and and you had a lot that was going on that way. However, you loved America and you felt like America was America.

And there you still had hopes and you still had dreams. And and we lost that at some point. And if I were personally, I can't state that this is how it is across the board. But, you know, for me it was 911. That was the moment when I lost a lot of optimism. I would have been 27 or 28 at the time.

In 2001, I had a couple of kids. And, you know, at that phase, you're, you know, you're powering through life and you're still getting your legs under you, but you have a lot of hope and enthusiasm. And 911, did a number on that. And so ever since then, I've actually really had to struggle to feel and experience what prior to that came almost effortlessly.

And of course, when the pandemic comes along, that is another layer of gaslighting. It's another layer of groupthink, another layer of what I would say are obstacles to understanding reality and enjoying life and taking in what God wants you to take in in your life, to be happy and to be balanced and to, not have perfection. That's not that's not a reasonable expectation, but to just have an overall sense of well-being.

It's been a while. And the pandemic, I would say the the biggest damage from the pandemic. And I say this with all the respect to the families of people who lost their loved ones because there was, I don't know what the final tally was. There's no final tally. COVID's still killing people. But at least during that time frame, how many people died in that year and a half or two.

But I think there was and I don't, you know, let's not even compare it. Let's not say it was worse, but there was another layer of damage done to society because of how the government and how the world's centers of power, the elite, reacted to the pandemic. And it created a never again mentality among patriots, among independents, among people who do not want their lives governed by nanny or over presided over by, by government power.

They just don't. Government is there to serve us, not the other way around. And so there were good things that came out of that. A revival of the never again mentality, I believe, grew out of that. At any rate, I don't want to spend all day on it. But, interesting that today is the, fifth anniversary of all of that.

And, you know, we were damaged by it. We were harmed. And I think we're still healing from the psychological damage. And, the relationship and how it was changed with government, with government power, with the bureaucracy, with other people and society in general. And I'm glad most of us have moved on. And I think today is a day not not in any really deep, emotional, pensive way, but I, you know, days like this are a time to just maybe reflect a little bit.

Now, I saw Julie sent me this story, so I saw the track girl. I wanted to talk to you about this and really make this the centerpiece of my monologue today. You have all seen by now the video of the girl running track a Layla Everett is her name and, an opponent comes up next to her and they're a little close.

They're kind of bouncing shoulders back and forth a little bit. Well, a Layla raises her running baton and whacks this poor girl in the head. It is obvious to anyone who watches this, and I would believe any reasonable jury their verdict would be guilty given this evidence case she hit her. I don't think that's even in question. Is that even in question?

Can anybody reasonably watch this and conclude anything else besides a deliberate smack on the head? So now this girl is saying it was an accident. It she did not mean to do it. And it it was not purposeful. After a couple hours, her mother tried, got stuck behind her back like this, and it brought up her. But I lost my balance.

And when I put on my arms again, she got hit. Okay, so she's saying, well, she lost her balance. Well, that looks an awful lot like hitting your opponent in the head and then this. But I know my intentions and I would never hit somebody on purpose. Okay, she says I know my intentions. I would never hit somebody on purpose.

Now, my poor A.D.D. riddled brain sometimes will make connections when I see something other things intrusive come into my mind. If it feels somewhat familiar to what I'm watching now. This happened yesterday when Julie sent me this video. I watched this and I went, something's very familiar about this. And then it hit me. This is a microcosm of the Democrat Party and quite frankly, bigger than the Democrat Party, larger the larger leftist mainstream society and legacy media in general.

For years now, I would say for probably the past 12 to 15, you have been beaten over the head with a baton, a cultural baton, but you have been beaten over the head with it. You have been told that you're a racist, that you're a bigot, you've been told that you need to be ashamed of your white skin.

If you happen to be Caucasian. You've been told that if you don't want people coming here illegally, you're xenophobia. You've been told that you are mean spirited and really, something is definitely wrong with you. If you don't think that it's okay to let biological boys compete against girls. You've been told that our children need to be exposed to obscene material in our libraries.

You've been made to feel ashamed of things that are not shameful at all. Bad has been called good, and good has been called bad during this period. And this is the baton that they have been cussing your skull with culturally and in some strains, spiritually and emotionally. They have gaslit you. They have launched a massive lie and perpetrated it as a hoax that the leader of the free world colluded with a foreign enemy to win the election.

And then, even after it was revealed as a lie, they doubled down on it. And then they came up with other narratives. They have tried to undo elections in the last several years during this period, and when America finally wakes up and recognizes the deliberate, very deliberate nature of their assault on reality, their assault on virtue and common sense, they retreat into their corner and they fill their eyes with tears and snot running down their faces because they don't want the consequences.

So it takes a certain special something to claim that two plus two equals five. In a culture that's waking up and well on their own. In this regard, our math wizards. But yet they continue to try to gaslight, to double down. They're upset. They're angry, they're weeping. They're wailing, they're gnashing their teeth. And you have a few people who can see it.

The wisest thing that a parent or a loving aunt or, teacher or an ecclesiastical leader could have said to this girl was, you hit her, she has a concussion now, maybe a skull fracture. You need to hold a little press conference. You could do it at a TV station. You could do it on the steps of your local city hall.

You. Whatever. There's a lot of national attention. And go in front of that podium and say, I got caught up in the heat of the moment, and I'm sorry. Don't keep lying. Don't keep, saying that you, didn't mean to when you clearly did issue a heartfelt apology. And guess what? People will move on. They'll say, you know what?

That was good of her to do, that she probably still needs to have some legal consequences. But then you at least you can start to move forward from it. This is only making it worse. And I see the media just making it worse. They're doubling down and they're lying to you. You had well, I'm not going to play.

I, I've already played the Whoopi clip twice this morning. That's twice too many. So but she's doubling down on on trans athletes. Basically they're beating you over the head with a baton saying it's okay that boys compete against girls on the basketball court or track or wherever. No, it's really not. Not at all. It's unfair. It's unjust. And when they come at us and say, well, yeah, but it doesn't happen.

You know how many instances there are of this? There's like 14 now. It's much bigger than that, because that one male athlete posing as a female deprives hundreds, if not thousands of young women the opportunity to win the trophy, to win the championship, to win the gold medal. The injustice is not about the one person, it's about the thousands being deprived.

But they double down and say, no, it's fine and you're a bigot if you don't think so. No, we don't take that anymore. All right. That argument, I think the culture used to be afraid of it. And I think that they used to cower in the corner. They didn't want to get canceled. They didn't want to be viewed a certain way.

They didn't want the bullies coming after them. Now, I hope this girl will take her punishment, move forward. Maybe at some point she'll feel remorse for what she did and say yes, it was. It was intentional because it clearly was. But I don't think today's Democrat Party. This is where the analogy ends, and I don't think today's Democrat Party Liberal dominance in the culture will ever, ever do that.

You have little corners you got you got little, little teeny tiny flickers of sanity like Gavin Newsom saying, yeah, that is unfair. Van Jones recognizing, oh yes, we are a party in complete and utter disarray because they are. But our proper response to this, and I want to make this very clear, because I do not I do not advocate violence.

And quite frankly, I don't want misery for people. But we have to take this whole complex of ideas largely under the umbrella of Wokeism, whether it's Dei or critical race theory or gender theory, all of it. And we need to crush it. We need to eliminate every last element of it's irrational. All of the irrationality. Now, do we need to be more accepting of people?

Yes. And there's a rational, reasonable Christ like, truly humble way to do it that doesn't create this power imbalance. And it's not about political power. It's about your individual choice. And being a decent human being one on one. But we don't need this institutionalized power exertion by the elite and by the. This is what has been beautiful about Donald Trump.

You may not like his style, and that's fine, I get it, and I understand that. But I'm going to tell you I'm going to tell you that what he is doing is unbelievably remarkable, because I think he's undoing Dei. And the cynical people out there would say, well, yeah, but then the Democrat president gets in, he'll just put it back in.

I don't think that's going to happen. I don't think that the, the I think once we're done with it, I think most people will not have a longing to get back to that place. All right. I've got a break. It's 824 on Newstalk 179 (208) 542-1079. If you'd like to reach us on the Stones Automotive Group call and text line 829, it's Neil Larson and Julie Mason.

You got a big day planned. Dueling is a busy day for you. It's a busy day. But isn't that every I mean, that's a Tuesday. Yeah, kinda. That's just how it is. Yeah. Life is. And if you'd like to reach us (208) 542-1079 and that's the Stones Automotive Group call and text line. So let's hear from you. Yeah, a lot happening.

We've not talked a whole lot about legislation going down. Yeah. There sure. Still, I mean, they are just steamrolling along late in the session. So you you referenced that today was the five year anniversary of the pandemic shiz show. Yeah. Starting clown show. Show. Yeah. Clown show. You. Right. The legislature is, I think they're passing.

They passed a bill that rejects the World Health Organization mandates. This is that middle finger that I'm talking. Yeah, it's to the government. The governor's desk, I think. Yeah, I think so, yeah. Yeah, I think and I would hope that he would say if he doesn't, that's to his own peril, I think. I think so also. So, you know what?

Any time not any time. Many times when you tell bureaucracies to stuff it, it's a good thing. Yeah. Yeah, I, I it's so funny that some people want on some issues. They want local control on some issues. They want state control on some issues. They want federal control. I think that what conservatives need to unite behind is they want control with the people.

Yeah. Not control with the government. Yes. And this is one of those ways where they're uniting and going, no, the government will not control us again in my they like they have previously empowering the individual. Now I, I would hope that Trump would be telling the World Health Organization just knock it off. If you want to provide data and recommendations, it's that's that's fine.

You have no teeth. Yeah. No enforcement. Well, one of his first executive orders cut our ties with I think so I believe so, yeah. Which means we're going to have AC, DC who made who as bumper music. Bring it on. Our our audience will love it. There's never bring it on bad time to me now who made who to air AcDc to be also the dairyman Bob marabout testified and they're saying we are going to oppose E-Verify until you give us a guest worker program.

Yeah, kind of a bargaining tool that they've got going on here that's setting some people. It's just rubbing them the wrong way. Yeah. So here's part of that. Your predicament with hiring and not, being able to differentiate until I shows up would E-Verify program help you out with that, and if so, would you be in favor of it?

Chairman Rep. As I said, if you go to our policy book, you'll see that we are in favor of E-Verify. Once we have access to a visa program. If we don't have access to a visa program, then E-Verify, it doesn't assist us at all. And I think we have to recognize if you go back to the first study that was released, I believe, last February, something like 30,000 undocumented workers in the state of Idaho right now, today.

And with agriculture, that number is about 10,000 with dairy. That's 70% of our our labor force is here without legal status, I would say 2800 of the dairy workers are on the dairies without legal status. Okay. So that's quite a bit actually in 2800. Did he say so? Like I, I don't know if he's presenting it as a bargain.

Like, let's have a transactional thing here. We'll agree to E-Verify if you agree to create a guest worker program. I think what he's saying is, one way or another, we need a reliable labor force in the dairy industry. And if we don't have a visa program, E-Verify is going to decimate us. Yes. So that's he he's looking out for industry survival, which I think rubs a lot of us the wrong way, because the law be damned, you know?

I mean, does it not matter that they're here illegally, does it, that they've flouted our, our laws here in, in the US? For him, his job is to make sure that the dairy industry in Idaho stays viable and even vibrant. Yeah, yeah, I think it all depends on where your emotion level is as far as how you interpret his remarks.

There's a part of me that wants to be bratty or twerp and say back, before Trump, were you trying to get a get any kind of a visa program going? I'd like to hear your track record on this. Or were you perfectly fine with breaking the law? But I won't be that cynical or that sarcastic and I will say there needs to be a solution here, which I have said far before this.

There needs to be a better way for the seasonal workers to come in and not have them be determined as illegal immigrants. Yeah, I think that the blame falls across the board with this. I think it's a little bit on the the dairymen. I think that they enjoyed being able to just get away with it. Yeah. And they might not have been like celebrating, getting away with it, but they were like, yeah, this is the way it's structured.

So we're going to do it this way. So I think that they need to step up to the table and go where we want to do it the right way. And I think lawmakers need to step up to the table and say, let's provide a better way than what's previously been done. Yeah. And all in all, let's all start obeying the law.

Yeah. Right. So we don't have to I mean, it's sort of a Sophie's Choice in a way that you have to choose between a livelihood or being legal. You know, it's a that's a tough thing to. Yes. Me, I, I don't want to defend agriculture. And, I would say increased presence of illegal labor, but I can explain it.

And I think I think for them, the immigration law is a federal issue, that they don't have a lot of control over. It has having. Well, no, we actually have good laws. The enforcement has been the problem. Donald Trump's enforcing it. And I would imagine and we've got another clip here. Fox had a report on Alan doing this is so great, such a great story.

That app that Biden was using to help people come here illegally has now been repurposed to identify the same people and offer them a deal, because Donald Trump is a dealmaker and the deal he's making is, if you self-deport now, you'll be able to come back in later legally, if you do it the right way, if you don't self-deport now and you try to stay here when we catch you and send you back, there's no coming back.

You're you're out. You're blocked forever from the United States of America. I floated this idea 6 or 7 weeks ago. I don't know if you remember me saying, yeah, they've all got the phones and they all have the app. It doesn't mean they haven't ditched that phone or, you know, remove the app from the phone, but they have it.

There's a portion of them that have it repurpose the app. It's already on there. It's already made. It's already in their hands. Trump was listening that day. Yeah. And that's what they did. And I think this is is such a brilliant way to do it because we already do have a form of self-deportation happening. We're seeing it already occurring.

All you've done is open the gate up a little bit further and said, hey, you've got the phone, you've got the app, open it up. It's going to be called something different now on your phone, but it's probably going to look very similar. Go in, fill out the paperwork. You already have an account, fill out the paperwork, go back to where you came from, and then you can apply to come here legally.

So it's all about incentive, right? Because, the Democrats just love to offer incentives with open borders, not enforcement for them to just come here. We have another clip. Elon Musk talks about entitlement spending and how that's been extended to illegals. And so they just keep coming here. And the Democrats want to turn them into reliable Democrat voters, although that's hard to do because it's illegal to vote if you're an illegal, but they're counted as part of the census.

And so that helps Democrats when it comes to reapportionment. So that's the that's part of the trick that they play. But the incentive now Donald Trump is creating an incentive for them to leave. Like you'll have a pathway to be here legally. But you got to leave now. And you've got I'm sure you'll give him 30 days or 60 days or whatever.

And, but here's the story. This is, actually, Bill Manoogian reporting on Fox News. Here's what he had to say. The Trump administration has taken that controversial CBP one cell phone out for migrants that the Biden administration was using, and they've repurposed it into a self deport app that is officially launching today. And we're getting an exclusive first look at it.

Take a look. The app is now called CBP home. It allows illegal aliens in the U.S. to register to self deport. They fill out biographical information, including their countries of citizenship, which country they plan to return to, their alien registration numbers, their contact information, and it allows them to upload photos of themselves to confirm their identity. All of it is then submitted to CBP, and they leave the country.

Now, you might be asking yourself, well, why would an illegal immigrant want to self-deport? Well, DHS says if they leave now, they will have the opportunity to return to the US legally in the future and chase the American dream. But if they don't leave, they will be found arrested, detained and deported with a permanent ban on entry into the United States.

In a statement to Fox News, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem said in part, quote, the Biden administration exploited the CBP one app to allow more than 1 million aliens to illegally enter the United States. With the launching of the CBP home app. We are restoring integrity to our immigration system. If they don't self-deport, we will find them, deport them, and they will never return.

The Biden administration's. That's great. That is so good. It is good. And this is, a very humane way to do it there. There's also been I wanted to talk about this. So I'll pair these two issues together. When we when we talk about immigration, there's a small portion of the country because I believe this is really a winning issue for both sides, Democrats and Republicans.

There was a wide, support of this, around 70%. That's a winning issue in America. Okay. But when we talk about immigration, those who are very, very against it have turned it into this compassion play. Again, they do this over and over and over again. It is the same pitch thrown to the batter, which is, how can you be such a horrible person and send these people back?

Well, this is a very humane way to do it. You're treating them like humans. You're saying, hey, you were given a phone by the previous administration. We want to recognize that. Give us your picture. Give us your details. Go back to the country you came from. That already fast track shoe gets you ahead in the line of coming back.

We're going to help you do it. That is a very humane way to approach this. How do you what what is the talking point? The Democrats come back with this. They don't have won. This is such a win. When you're talking about the Trump administration. Yeah. Kristi Noem has been running a commercial on Fox News that that is very similar to this that talks about we're actually here to help you.

The previous administration did it wrong. We want to do it right. Go back to where you came from. Give us your information. We'll put you on the fast track to get back here the right way, not the way Donald are not the way Biden did it. That is a very humane way to do it, because you're treating the person like, yeah, they matter.

They're a human and they do matter. They are human, but they are illegal and they need to do it the right way. Right? You're you're preserving their dignity. And, I think there are some, though, Julie. And I'll I'm not I'm not here. I'm not I'm not in this place. But I think some people would say no, they broke the law.

There needs to be consequences. And I get that. I understand it, you know, they want them arrested or whatever. You're right, but you can't always get everything. And if the point is, let's get them back home so that they're not a burden, whether it's our criminal system or our entitlement system, social services, all of that, and you are at least in part adhering to the law that you're restoring them to their home country.

They can apply. Maybe they can come back. We'll see. Because there's going to be a lot of applications. But but I think that we have to sort of temper our expectations. We're not going to be able to prosecute and give criminal consequences to everybody who came here illegally. That's just not feasible. Although I think we can send many of them back home and get them back on track if they want to come here and they're good people and they're otherwise and they're not, they're not causing, damage to to communities, then, then I think that it's a great deal.

They are. I hope they really, really consider it. And what I think will happen too is this will be used and millions will go home based on this, the Democrats will have nothing to say about it because these are voluntary people. It's a very reasonable offer. It preserves their dignity. It preserves our laws. And they I think it's it's one of those and runs around the Democrat Party and the left that is going to be difficult for them to respond to.

Yeah. And you take the pitch away from them, right. To use my analogy, you take that that compassion pitch that they throw to the batter all of the time that they think is going to be right down the strike zone, and you take it away because you are showing them compassion. Yeah, yeah. It's true. Which they don't think we have any.

All right, let's go to the phones. (208) 542-1279 hi, caller. Welcome to the show. Bienvenidos aqui. Hey, I think it's a great idea with the app and with those that are left to go home. Give them, let's say. Okay, you guys can come back on a three year work visa, and that time they acclimate, they get a job, they start providing.

And then after three years, they can be caught 3 or 4 years wherever they can become an American citizen because we already have guys here work on work visas for five, six, seven years, some of them ten, 15 years that are great workers, great people that are still American citizens. But by doing that, you're taking away the whole saying, oh, who's going to pick our vegetables?

Which I think is a big racist comment the Democrats keep using. I'm from a farming community, and I know personally thousands of those kind of workers that they claim are going to pick our vegetables and they're people. They're human beings. The Democrats, and they quit dehumanizing them. Yeah, that's what I want to say. Yeah. No thank you. I think that's a good, a really good point.

Democrats have always been the most racist. They don't think black people can produce an ID at the at the polling places like their opinions of these minority groups are so low, but they treat them like they are their saviors and because they want the political dividends of that. But but I think that plays right in right into that.

Can I present another factor here that I think may play out in time, over time? I think if if Trump's policy gets them squared so that they're not wrong with the law anymore, because right now they're outlaws, they're, they're hiding. They're they're not. You entice them to go back home and say, look, we want you here if you'll if you're behave well and, and be part of your community and and be productive if they do that, they go back home, they self-deport they get in line, they come back.

I will bet you that far more of them will be Republican voters than Democrat voters, because it was Trump and the Republicans that helped put them on that track to being here legally, and not in contradiction to the law. And if they come back, they're productive citizens. Look at the inroads that Trump made with the Latino community, specifically bigger numbers than we've ever seen.

The the, the Latino vote go towards a Republican. I actually think this route will take away one of the most important things from the Democrats, which is we want future Democrat voters. You do it the right way. They get their lives back on track. They come here correctly and lawfully and admire. Now, this isn't going to be throughout, but I will bet you that a big, big portion of those people will say, you know what?

It was Trump and the Republicans that made this right. I'm glad I'm in adherence to the law. I want a brighter future for my children and for my family and I bet you they do not vote robotically Democrat the way maybe they they were expected to in the past. Yeah, I think there is a potential there that you do gain votes by, by giving them an opportunity to not live in that state of anxiousness.

Yeah, that I'm, I'm waiting for the knock on the door and it's going to be ice. And I'm going to I'm going to be sent back home. Yeah. You know there's also because people would talk about Homan, Tom Homan who who's very much a hard line, oh. I've got to take a break here. I think when you pair what they've done in repurposing this app with the optics, there was another raid of like 640 illegals that are now going to be deported.

When you see that, that is a massive incentive for these, for these people who who were here illegally to go, I think I'm going to go home and try to do this the right way. You don't have to deport them all. You just need to prime the pump with some of those optics and visuals. And then there will be massive self-deportation.

Yeah, it's a far more efficient way to accomplish what Trump is, is asking by adding these extra elements, asking Tom Homan to do what he did with that raid of over 600 people yesterday, when four of them were were clearly criminals. They had records. It was a very good raid. Yes. You got rid of criminals. That's a necessary portion, but it's also a high manpower portion.

Yeah. This other way is a low manpower portion combining the two. That's efficient work. Yeah. Yeah. No I agree all right. It's 850 on Newstalk 1079. We got a break, but we'll be right back. All right. It's 851 on Newstalk 1079. We're going to jump right to the phones. We just have a couple of minutes here for a phone call.

What's on your mind today, caller go ahead. Hey. Good morning. To start with your list, that you rolled off about everything that the media has lied about. Which leads me into. And now we're supposed to believe everything about Ukraine. And then about the illegal immigrants going back to their home countries. My hope and my prayer is that they have seen how rich and plentiful we are.

And good as people, when they go back to their nation and they try to emulate best they can. Yeah. Our principles of, of of being good humans and, and hopefully a government that works for their people. So that's my hope is they go back and they make changes in their home country within their governments in order to make it hopefully more like ours.

Yeah. That's my thought. Yeah. No I yeah that, that plays into the idea of rather than having immigrants from all over the world come here, we need to export the idea of democracy. And I mean that, you know, little democracy where, you know, people understand what a republic is, what self-governance is, what the American Constitution is about, and take those key principles and export them around the world.

That's going to be the best thing for their prosperity and for their, well, just basic, you know, ideas of, of human rights and justice. I agree with that because you, you would hope that they have family and that they realize that we can, we can return to our home country and we can do some of the things that are happening in America.

It is difficult. They are working with governments that do try to squash them. Well, yeah. So it is harder then it's one of the things that I just can't stand about every America haters will go back to your old country, the country whose flag you're flying. Do you get to start your own businesses there? Yeah. Do you get to live with the freedoms that we live with here?

You don't. Yeah. Yeah. You can't. Yeah. No that's there's a long list of questions you can ask right there I'm there. Right. It's 854 on Newstalk 179. Sorry. Went long in the last segment. We got to turn right back around here. It's 858 sun Newstalk 107I Neil Larson along with Julie Mason and you, we have another hour ahead of us.

And if you'd like to reach us on the Stones Automotive Group, Collin Text Line, that's the number (208) 542-1079. We still have some Elon Musk audio to get to. Julie. Some Tom Homan audio. We find out that Zelensky apologize to Trump. That was an interesting development as well. So stick around.

All right. Our two underway. We're loaded for bear. And if you'd like to reach us, the number the stones automotive group calling text line is (208) 542-1079. The phone lines are wide open. It is the five year anniversary of the beginning of the pandemic. This is when the World Health Organization, what exactly did they do five years ago, declared like the shutdown sounds okay.

Idaho was a little behind that. We didn't quite do it right off the bat. We were, you know, 4 or 5 days. I it was somewhere near my birthday, which is in six days. And so we were of the subtle inclusion. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I just remember it because you, you texted me I was at a birthday lunch with friends, okay?

And you texted me. That's why it sticks in my brain. What did I say when I texted you? You texted me and said, Governor Little, just shut down the state. Yeah, I was at a restaurant with friends, for my birthday, and it wasn't exactly on my birthday. It was just the day that me and my friends could get together for my birthday.

Yeah, and you texted me that the stay at home order. I do remember that, did come a few days afterward. What? I remember, there were multiple press conferences. I happened to be in Boise. My couple of kids and I went over just to get out of town. And we went to the bird refuge. I can't remember what it's called, but anyway, was pretty cool.

And I heard that the governor was holding a press conference, and I'm like, kids, I'm a member of the media, so I'm going to this. It was weird because I was not dressed. I was in jeans. Remember that jacket? But I, I walked in and they they knew me because I interviewed the governor, you know, quite often. And I said, I'm actually here on a little family trip, but this is a pretty important press conference, if I remember right, it was actually announcing the first Covid case found in Idaho.

Yeah, it was prior to the shutdown, right? Yes. Yeah, I think it I think it was. And I remember standing in there, with all of the, you know, the other media and the governor is announcing that and it was just it was almost this surreal. We treated that first patient in Idaho. I mean, I'm sure there were others, but that was the first identified one as almost like a celebrity.

They didn't name her, but they explained that she had gotten the bug. She was at a conference in New York, contracted it that way, and then brought it with her to Idaho. But I don't know if she was Idaho's patient zero. I think that, you know, people were traveling and coming and going, but she was just the first identified one that changed every buddy's perspective.

Like it's here at home now. Before it was just in China or in Europe or wherever. And it it changed a lot. Do you I you know what? I do remember this. There's memories coming back, you and I, for a work trip with our spouses, went on, to an all inclusive week long trip to Puerto Vallarta. We came home on March 3rd.

Yes, we did, and we barely made it. I remember they shut down Mexico like a week or two after we got home. Yeah, that window was was closing a part of. I heard that was fun. Anyway, like, I need some warmth, but I, I just remember, I remember all of that, and we didn't really know what we were facing, but I, I remember Julie from the get go.

I was skeptical and I thought, okay, there because they when the shutdown happened, there were businesses designated as was what was the word essential and non-essential and liquor stores were essential. State run liquor stores, by the way. Right. And I thought, no, no, I mean, because if you did have medical professionals making a case that, well, the lack of liquor for people who are addicted was going to.

Yeah, but you can go to the you can go to the grocery store and get wine or beer. Yeah. That's why I said the state run liquor store. Right, right. And they knew that lots of downtime. It was probably going to be even more. Yeah, that'd be interesting to see what the liquor store, state run liquor store sales were during the during the pandemic.

Yeah. But I remember that, and I remember going on lots of family trips because church got shut down after that, that they'd have meetings, but it was on zoom, zoom or YouTube and you would just watch from home and but nothing else was going on. We didn't have concerts, we didn't have athletic events. We didn't. And it was just it was just there's a lot of eerie about it.

And this is the one. And I feel ashamed now to to share this, because in retrospect, after being through what we've been through, I have a different perspective. But I remember getting in our suburban and we drove out by Mackie and Chalice on a Sunday drive. We weren't going to church, but we had been told by the governor, do not leave your homes unless you have an essential reason you need to go get food or medicine or whatever.

And I'm like, we're just going to go on a family trip. But I remember during that trip, I was looking in my rearview mirror for state police like, I you felt like I'm a fugitive because we're not we're not driving the. But then science, my science brain was there is no way we're contracting anything driving on the Arco highway like the same table we sleep in the same house.

We use the same bathrooms. I mean, we did stop and get gas, you know, but I think it was a self pump. I might have gone in and bought a I can't remember, but, I just I just look back on that and I feel a little bit of shame that I let my, my mind be afraid that it.

And it was sort of that paranoia I think they wanted people to have. I think they wanted people living in sort of that emotional extreme state. And, it and I remember getting home and I'm like, I'm not going to live like this. And it was it was very short lived. And, even even going on our family trip was defiant because it wasn't a quote unquote essential trip.

But I was ashamed that I allowed that fear to take place in me, that they had nothing to fear. And quite frankly, looking back on it, because I'm thinking, are they going to ask, are they going to grill me if I get pulled over for broken taillight or whatever it could be? Are they going to grill me on?

Why are you out driving today? And I'm like, is this Nazi Germany? And, I mean, my mind just sort of just went went crazy there for for a little bit. But then I got my sort of confidence, wits about you. I did, and I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to live like this. That is not what we do in America.

And I can make my own choices. And later we made choices about masks, and we made choices about vaccines, and we made choices about what's essential and not essential. And we made fun of the police and the, you know, all of that. And, I'm just I'm glad it was short lived for me. I know it was short lived for you as well.

And, I think we it could have turned out much, much worse if we didn't have the number of people who were patriots and believers in individual freedom. Right. So, yeah, I have a follow up to that, but I can tell my story in a minute. Go ahead and take the call. Okay. Caller, welcome to the show. Hi.

I suffer from what's called peer syndrome. So that's my excuse for all these restrictions that I can give to the police. Do you remember a guy named Hawkeye Pierce on Mash? Oh, yes. When he was called by Colonel Henry Blake into his office, Henry Blake told him. Sit down. Pierce, that's an order. Pierce told him. Henry, you're forcing me to stand.

If you tell me I can't go and drive somewhere. Only non-essential travel. I'm going to go out and drive around just for the hell of it. Oh, yeah, I remember that going on. I remember doing a fair bit of that on these empty streets. Masks. I never wore a mask. I knew from the start that they were ridiculous and not useful.

And, I never asked people to wear them in my office. I actually considered putting a sign up on the door saying, in the interest of doing something to slow the spread, all people entering this establishment are required to wear green socks, I think. Right. I could have run a non-inferiority study on green socks versus the standard, the gold standard wearing masks and in medical terminology for non-inferiority of the green socks.

Tell me to do something. I'm going to do something different. Yeah. So I had the same kind of I never had the fear reaction that you did. I just went out and drove around. Yeah. Just because I wanted to get out. Yeah. And I had cabin fever. It was a terrible time. Now, thank you for the call I appreciate.

Yeah, I feel exactly the way he feels my story. When, you were talking about feeling a little bit ashamed, I had one of those moments on air. Okay, so remember, we were getting close to the NBA finals. I believe it was a jazz player. As he left the press conference, touched all the microphones with his hands. Yeah.

Do you remember that? Yes. And then they canceled the games. Yes, I remember that. Yeah. I actually laughed and supported the guy touching the microphones. And we had a few people text in and shame me for making fun of it. And I remember going home that day and feeling bad about making light of it. Yeah. And now I can look back and go, I understand why people would be frustrated because people are dying and it's I get why they were frustrated with you for making fun of it.

I also am never going to apologize that an NBA player could see the ludicrousness of, yeah, what was being asked of him, and as he left a press conference, touched all the microphones to just it was his middle finger to them. Yeah. And I realize now you and I both gave the middle finger in several ways like that.

Yeah, we did several ways. And so I don't feel bad that I, I we're here behind these microphones. Yes. Because of that. Yes. But I remember feeling bad then I don't feel bad about it now about the comments I made about that NBA player. I remember feeling bad about it. Then, but now with looking back and having the the knowledge of what this last five years was, I can go, nah, it's okay because I gave the middle finger in a different way.

Yeah. Well, yes. And I, I think that, we all now we're not fans of the middle finger, but you need to in this context, you need to learn how to give the middle finger. Yeah. All right, let's go to the phones. We've got lots of people calling in. Good morning caller. How are you? Good morning. Is it's me.

It's you. Yeah. Go ahead okay. So I'm very proud of you guys for coming around on the Covid thing. My family, stood real strong during that time. I lost my pension, I lost my job. We lost everything. But in the grand scheme of things, we now live in Idaho, so it was all worth it. I was fired from Governor Inslee on, October 18th, 2021.

The following Friday, I was, hired by Governor Little. And it was a great move for us. We didn't where we were. Are we are we going to a Safeway? That's kind of like an Albertsons. Yeah. But it wasn't because we were afraid it was out of respect for the old people in there that were deathly afraid that they were going to get something.

We couldn't go to church, but the pot shops were open. They actually arrested people for being in their cars, listening to a sermon in a parking lot that the, pastor was, Yeah, giving. I could not believe it. You'd walk into a Safeway again. That's kind of like an Albertsons. And you had people screaming at the top of their lungs, at people because you're killing people.

Because they wouldn't wear a mask. Again, we wore masks just out of respect for the elderly and the scared. But, one day I came home from work. I told my wife she been telling me for months. We had to get out of this state. I told my wife, okay, we're moving to Idaho. I've only ever driven through.

There I go. It's beautiful, isn't it? We're moving, like, nice. And, so it was on December 31st, and, it was during Winter Storm Frida. I stopped counting rigs. Turned over at 24, and I wasn't even driving that U-Haul. Okay? I was in the passenger seat. It was Jesus. And, we definitely. And people say, oh, you didn't think it was real?

Well, I sat for miles back at a funeral from Governor Inslee. We all wanted to stand up and turn around on him at a friend fellow officers funeral. It was real. We knew it was real, but we also believed in herd immunity. And look where we're at now. We're really vindicated. All my friends that I'm in contact with back in on the left coast, they, really applaud me and said, hey, you got it right?

And they all got the clock shot. So I think we did good. I prayed a lot about it. And here we are in God's country. Oh, man, we're glad you're here. Thank you, for your story and and your thoughts. The clot shot. I forgot about that. We're glad you're here. Yeah. All right, let's go to our next caller.

Good morning. Good morning. Hi, Neal and Julie. Love the show. Oh, thank you. Yes. I just have to say, and I don't know why it's taken me five years to call, but, I work in the medical field, and I have never had a flu shot. And our family, when Covid came around, our family decided there was 13 of us that we would stand strong as well.

And so I'm just really grateful for you to, you know, always being able to tune in and and make I don't know, it's just interesting to me that, we never had the jab and we would go to church without masks and, we just kind of have that rebellion as well. But it all seems so silly to me.

And being kind of run by the government. And so we were like you, you know, we're like, we felt guilty sometimes. But, my point is, is we all got Covid. I had it twice. And I was really grateful that I did because I was glad to get it out of the way. And, but I come from an era where I also had measles and, I also, like, had the most.

And so these people that are so afraid of the immunized, you know, of getting measles today, I, I'm like, it. We used to have, like, chicken pox parties, you know, where we'd, you know, expose our children. And so, I don't know, I just, I don't know, my parents also had. They were so afraid they went and had, like, the shot three, three shots ended up getting the Covid.

Two years later, I was in the air with them here in a local hospital, and my dad said, well, I just can't believe I've had the the I mean, you know, I was immunized and the E.R. doctor here said, well, those did no good. And I just had to stop for a minute because I couldn't believe that, you know, a doctor here in town.

I was actually saying that. And, anyway, so that is kind of my story. Well, thank you. I appreciate you sharing that. And, I mean, that was a shared experience. So we all have these kind of connecting moments where we all went through the same thing, but maybe in different contexts and or just a little different shade. Yeah.

Of the, the color that she's talking about, my favorite part of the, the experience that she told was that she actually had a doctor who was honest with her. Yeah. Because that wasn't happening all the time. Yeah, we we had regional physicians who were specifically one that I had been recommended, told is amazing. Still, people love this physician, say he's a great surgeon.

And he stood up at a school at a school meeting and demanded that all kids be vaccinated before they go back to to elementary school. Wow. The data just did not match that. No. So I, I resonate with what she was saying, that I appreciate that a doctor was at least honest with her. So we'll get to more calls here in just a moment.

But Julie, I wanted to look up Covid deaths. This is in the U.S.. I don't have the global numbers. Covid deaths for 2024 and 25. They already have some updates. So the last year, in a couple of months, if you were to guess, maybe a range, what do you think I'm getting. This is Nationwide or Idaho. Nationwide. Nationwide is on your side 4000.

No, it's higher than that. Okay. The range that's been given from the CDC is anywhere from 23,000 to 39,000. Wow. That is way more than I would have thought they would have, attributed. Yes. So let me ask you this to compare before we get too far down the road, how many flu deaths do you think we've had?

20, 24, 25. Same time frame, 40,000, possibly. So the range, as I mentioned, for Covid 23 to 39,000 for the flu, it's 22 to 110,000. It's very likely the flu now is deadlier than Covid in the United States. Wow. It probably takes the same demographic the older the infirm. And maybe they're, you know, compromised. And I do think the the flu strains that we've had recently have been worse than normal.

Yeah, a little more aggressive. And because usually that number I think is around 40,000 or so. So, okay, we're going to break, but we have callers standing by. We'll come back and we will, take your calls when we return on Newstalk 179 on this Tuesday. Okay. I'm going to screen these calls here real quick. Okay.

Is this right? Hey, Robert. I'm right with you, Mr.. Yeah, I just need your first. Okay. Kurt. And what? Okay, we'll have you on after.

Okay. We got a, message from listener says. I just listened to the caller who was fired by Governor Inslee. Inslee is the reason we left Washington and moved to Idaho three years ago. And we absolutely love it here. We had absolutely real. He has absolutely ruined that state when living in Washington. If we had visitors, we would tell them, this home is a mask free zone.

Love your show. That's great. Wasn't there a feud between Governor Little and Inslee a few months ago? Like, like little was thanking him for sending people our way. Like, yeah, they got into it. And then there was the concept that Inslee bought land in North Idaho. Yeah, yeah. Is that true? I don't know if it's true or not.

I think it is true. He tried to spin it, but I think it is true. Yeah. So even he's made the state bad enough he wants to leave. I mean, I don't blame him. Coeur d'Alene is gorgeous. Yeah, but yeah, you don't get to diss the state, then purchase land here and and take refuge. Yeah, I, I0I have something very interesting I need to say about the mRNA vaccines.

So after we take the calls, I'll make that point. If we have enough time. So I came across I think it was an email or something. And I'm not going to mention any names, but we had said something on the air in our previous life, and this is almost word for word. What was said that people act like if you go to the grocery store and you don't wear a mask, you're killing grandpa.

I remember you saying it, but we were misrepresented as saying we want grandpa to die or we don't care if grandpa dies. And that's not at all what we said. Yeah, we were talking about people overreacting, not about we don't, we're, we're indifferent it. Anyway, I had it it was a little twitchy when I, when I read that, I'm like, we, I'll go back right?

And we jump back in to the phones. Rob is standing by Rob in Idaho Falls. Good morning, good morning, good morning Julie. It's a beautiful day in Idaho. It is, it is. What's on your mind? I just wanted to share something with you about Covid. You guys changed jobs because you didn't believe in being told what you could say, what you could do at cetera.

Well, I mean, I maintain buildings for a living. I maintain banks, make sure the buildings work, everything. I was one of those essential employees that kept the buildings open. The people couldn't go to. No. Yeah. The reason that they call us essential employees is because sacrificial lamb, they thought would be a little too aggressive. Yeah. I went out every day and this and went to work.

I'm immunocompromised, yet I went to work every day. And here I am, five years later, still alive. Yep. Science doesn't always have the answer. And I applaud you and Julie both for standing up for what you believe, making the changes you needed. And I know that had to be a scary time for both you and your families, and I thank you for that.

Have a fantastic day. Well, thank you for the call. Very, very nice. It was a wild ride. It absolutely was. Yeah. But all is good. We're here. Yeah. Let's go back to the phones. And we have Kurt in Idaho Falls. Hi, Kurt. Hi, Neal. Hi, Julie. Hey, I, a previous caller was talking about masks, and I wondered if you've ever looked at, the Cochrane report on masking came out a while back, and they looked at a lot of studies on masks.

I think over 70 studies. I think there were several thousand people total involved. And the bottom line of the study was that masks do not prevent viral transmission, not even the N95 masks. So yeah, that was interesting. What I was calling about is I've been kind of keeping my finger on the Covid issue since it started. I've got nine books on the Covid issue, as well as hundreds of, web, websites that I've, been to.

And, I wanted to talk about the ninth book. I have the first eight books, informed me a lot about what's really going on, as opposed to what we were told was going on by the government and the news media. But this, this last, this ninth book is kind of like the last piece for me of a puzzle.

And, this one answers, kind of the the final questions on regarding, the Covid virus, what it actually is. And the Covid shots, what's actually in them. And, I just would like to give a plug for the book if I could. Yeah. Really quick. That's fine. Okay. This is written by, retired chiropractor. His name is Doctor Brian Ardis b r y a n, and the title is called Moving Beyond the Covid 19 lies.

And I think his website, I think what you would type in is, it's called the Brian Artist Show as the name of his website. And, person who wanted to order that book. Okay. I don't think it's available on Amazon or Barnes and Noble, I think just has to be ordered through him as far as I know.

Okay. And based on what is, the real cause of the virus and based on what is the real cause, the the real cause of, problems people are having from the Covid shots. Very last chapter of the book, he gives some natural remedies for those things. And I think, okay, this is probably a book that all the doctors in town need to have.

All right. This book is shocking that the information. And it is shocking. I won't sure give it over the air, but I was. And the people of to look at it. All right, well, thank you for the, recommendation. We are past time. It's 935. Got to take a break. We'll continue after this. On Newstalk 1079.

Hey, Facebook, how are you? Hey, Facebook. I had two things. What was the other one? I don't remember.

Imagine we've got some sad comments in the, in the text or in the, Facebook feed. Yeah. John wrote during the pandemic, my mom died from a fall causing head trauma, quote, complicated by Covid and my dad from heart failure complicated by Covid. I don't believe either had Covid at all. John was so sorry about that. And I mean, that is just horrible.

That said, I guess they were in California. He mentions later on that they were in California, so it was probably a little more intense the way that it was treated. Well, my father died from heart failure. He had had, the Covid so he died in 22 I believe. But he had gotten the shot probably mid 21.

And he didn't remember having a heart attack. But the markers were there for a heart attack. He had had a heart attack. It was just a silent. And the timeline fit. Now you know what we have bad heart genes in my family. Heart attacks, heart disease, whatever. So it it absolutely could have been that I, I wouldn't blame the the shot, but I wish we knew more because I think there's a chance that could have played a part in in as it may be a contributing factor.

So the thing that I want to share on air, I'll tell, the face, I'll give Facebook a little brief, explanation of it. Yesterday, I recorded a podcast with a woman who has had stem cell replacement therapy to get rid of her. Ms.. And, we talked a lot about where she goes from here. The stem cell treatment was successful.

She's about five months out of the treatment. 4 or 5 months out of the treatment. Things are looking good for her. In May. She has to get her vaccinations again because all of that memory, that cell memory is gone. So she can get the measles, she can get the mumps, she can get rubella. Guess what vaccine she is not allowed to get the what the covet mRNA vaccine.

Really absolute. No, no okay. Because she has pure clean cells and the mRNA vaccine changes your cells. But they say it doesn't. Yeah. Well, this is a world renowned doctor in San Diego who just basically cured this woman of Ms.. So guess who I'm gonna believe? Yeah, and that's what she said. Yeah, on the podcast. Sorry, I sound like Michael Scott right there.

Yeah, that's what she said.

Yeah. He said that podcast drops tomorrow if you guys aren't, if you want to hear it, it's on. We share. But I thought that was incredibly interesting that this is the, the the the thing that was supposed to save the world. And when somebody has pure clean cells supplied by stem cell transplant, it is the one thing they can't have.

Wow. But they can get them. They can get the MMR vaccine. Oh they can okay. I should have run the the rest of.

The 941 on Newstalk 107I, Neil Larson, along with Julie Mason. I want to ask you this question, Julie. What is if you were to pick one thing and I can explain my one thing so you can think about it, but what is one thing that you don't miss from the pandemic? Oh, that I don't miss because I clearly have a do miss.

Oh, yeah. No, what what don't what if you were to pick one thing that's not a list. Just one thing that I don't miss from the pandemic, I would say, and I think people have probably gotten tired of me hitting on this point over and over and over again, because I do. I have absolutely overstated it. But maybe it needs stated again.

I was so incredibly frustrated with the six foot arbitrary rule. Yeah, I don't miss that at all. It was made up. It was a complete lie. Yeah. And y'all. But like I'm not I shouldn't say y'all because a lot of our listeners didn't. But the general y'all the general y'all. Yeah. Bought into it. We had X's on floors and plexiglass.

And when you go to a bank you had to step back six feet from the teller and it was trash. It was made up. Yeah. So I don't miss that. Mine if I were to to because all this talk is sort of conjuring up old memories from that year. And my point is actually encapsulates what you've just said, the whole dynamic of people allowing their emotions to override their intellect.

That is what I don't. It's still happening in other, other ways today. But it was on steroids during the pandemic that we didn't listen to science. We just because somebody is wearing a lab coat and they have numbers or letters behind their name, that doesn't mean it's science. And but people were were buying it hook, line and sinker, and they allowed their fears to be a blank check to make any claim, to make any accusation.

To assert any privilege they wanted for themselves and to throw shame wherever they could against people that disagreed with them. I don't miss that at all. That that year and a half or two, we were almost completely the general. We were almost completely governed by emotion. And that that was probably one of the most frustrating things about all of it.

People getting arrested on beaches, California governments, plowing over skate parks. Yeah. And that are outside near the ocean. The virus can't even live. I know yet. It was all emotional. The playground mom. Yeah, the playground mom. Yeah, it was it was so emotional. We received a call from a listener earlier this morning because we had mentioned it's the five year anniversary of the the world.

I still got to come up the CDC. Who makes you do. Don't let me show without that. But we he called he was in Bingham County. He was in, I think the courthouse there and one of the government buildings and none of the employees were wearing masks, but everybody coming in was required to wear masks. And he's like, I'm not wearing a mask.

If you if they're not, why should I and why should I anyway? And a deputy came up and told him he needed to put the mask on and he said, what if I don't? And they said, well, we'll have you removed. And I'm like, how I, I don't want to throw Bingham deputies under the bus. That's not the point of this discussion, but I will talk about the overall culture.

We we edged toward kind of that Nazi Germany mask. You know mentality sort of the elements of fascism where there's intolerance. And even if it's really not that big of a deal, even if the only one at risk is him himself, they still behaved that way. And it's just a, just a dynamic that that was so toxic and so unhealthy that I'm glad is over with.

Yeah. Trigger that PTSD. Okay. You find a CDC, I'm going to tell him the story about the vaccine. Okay. Yesterday I recorded a podcast for the We Share podcast with a woman who is recovering from stem cell replacement therapy. She had it done in San Diego. It was to help cure her arms. And they don't ever say it's cured because this treatment is so new.

But they have people going on 15 years of not having having Ms. symptoms after having the stem cell replacement. So the concept isn't about the stem cell. What I want to share with you what I am, I'm actually going to share with you is because all of her cells are now regenerated and new. They have her cells have forgotten her previous vaccinations.

So her doctor in San Diego does have her on a vaccine schedule, which will include the MMR, the polio, a lot of the early on vaccines that we got. Interesting enough, a vaccine she is allowed to never have enter her body is the Covid vaccine because they do not want an MRI and a vaccine to rewrite her cell code.

Please tell me that's safe for you. Please. Someone make an argument. Someone with brand new baby cells. Yeah. Can't have it, but it's safe for you. Yeah. Interesting. All right, let's go back to the phones. Caller. Welcome to the show. How are you on this Tuesday? Good. I visited a friend in a rehab center yesterday. She had just been released from the hospital to go to this rehab center, where she was released from the hospital.

They did a Covid test, which was negative. And when she went into the rehab center, they did, Covid test, which was positive. So she cannot leave her room. Everybody that's in her room has to wear a mask. It's just like it was during Covid. That I asked the key, the physical therapist that was in her room.

Why? And they said we have to do a Covid test. Everybody that comes in or we get no federal funding. Oh, wow. So anyway, maybe COVID's not completely over. Yeah, well, yeah, that's. And that's too bad. That's. That just makes you sad. Yeah. Follow the money. I speaking of flashbacks, I remember in particular it happened a couple of times, listeners who were not allowed to go see their parents in assisted living.

They actually had to stand outside and look at them through a window. That's home. That's like going to jail. Yeah. And and visiting a relative in jail like through a like the just is it was so toxic, so terrible. I mentioned on our Facebook feed a gentleman is commenting that both of his parents died in California during Covid.

He just chimed in again. This person had said, when my mom passed during the time of the pandemic, my dad was not allowed in her hospital room. During her last hours, they were married for 65 years. That's horrible. Yeah. So she passed on in her hospital is horrible. All right. Next caller. Welcome to the show. Yeah. The other thing about this Covid that is I see it as an ongoing problem.

We've never been told how it got into the general population. Exactly. They are at least admitting it came from Wuhan. How did it get into the general population. And, people tell us that there are worse vaccines that they work on shitting on the shelf. That would wipe out like 80% of the population. How come these labs are still going?

How come they have not been burned to the ground and no more of this kind of craziness? Mad scientist, nasty stuff going on that could literally kill, large swaths of population. Why is this going on? And and it does need to be, it needs to be addressed because it it can happen again and in a worse way.

Yeah. No, I, I agree that the whole gain of function research is very controversial. And yet there is that sense that you're playing with fire. And I hope look I think it's obvious Covid was an engineered virus. It was the the result of a gain of function experiment to research or whatever you want to call it, whether or not it got out accidentally or deliberately.

We could probably argue about that. I think there's arguments from both sides here. Although we just had Ron Johnson, Wisconsin senator, he said this whole thing was planned. This what this was a deliberate plan by the elite for this to happen. I, I know that both you and I have said for the longest time that this was not a, a natural occurrence.

This absolutely was, manufactured and released. I don't think we know exactly who the good guys were or the bad guys were in all of this. We have clear targets on some of the bad guys. I think there's a lot more that have been able to hide. Yeah, but I don't think that you can. I don't think there's anyone who can make a solid argument that this was a natural occurrence.

I agree. Next caller, welcome to the program. Go ahead caller, you're on okay. We got to let him go. All right. Okay. Let's take a break. We'll be back to you in just a few minutes. Here. We'll wrap it up on the other side. It's 951 on the Neil Larson Show on Newstalk 179. Through for you.

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But who made who was right up there? Yeah, it's a good one. Yeah. All right. We'll have about four minutes. Okay. Tomorrow. Crapo. As far as I have it, I haven't been told that's not happening. Can confirmation from Jaren Crain. Nope. Not yet. Okay. Trying. All right. Giving in a good effort. We've got, on top two Pocatello artists for, the next two weeks of studio four covers.

We cited about that. We love to spread it across the region. So it's going to be great. Had a client who came yesterday? Yeah. She knew three of the four people that were here for the, Teton Sky on Friday. Oh, really? And, she said I, I went back and listen to them because she was at work when I was happening.

She said, I went back and listen to them. They're so good. She said, when you said they were great people, you have no idea. These are stellar human beings. Yeah. Those people I. I just felt like you could feel it. Yeah. From them. They were just good people. Were they, like, any of them related? No. They work together.

Oh, they. Oh, that's how she knows that. Oh. Where do they work? They have work connections. They're all in the medical field in various degrees. They're not all the same kind of person in the medical field, but they're all in medical positions and they're connected to, What is it? Teton medical on Woodruff. Okay. And they were just talking at lunch one day saying, hey, let's put a Scottish band together.

I have no idea. All right. Hold on. Let.

All right. One helping of AcDc. She wasn't quite enough there, Julie. It's Thanksgiving. It is. That's that's true. Or we're overdoing it here. All right, so we're back. (208) 542-1079. We want to let you know Senator Crapo is scheduled for tomorrow 7:30 p.m.. Interesting times in Washington. Word I'm here. I'm seeing headlines about a potential government shutdown. Trump is calling on Republicans.

Please don't let that happen. It seems like the yes, it seems like the Democrats want to make it happen. Well, they don't want those tax cuts to happen. That's how much they care about you. If they actual budget passes, those tax cuts will come into play. And they don't want that. The the problem for them is we have so much audio and video of them on tape talking about averting government shutdown and how terrible the Republicans are if they allow a government shutdown to happen.

So now is the time to pounce all claim. Let's just pounce on that and then and then hold them to their word and let's just see what happens. Yeah, I do believe that that's Trump's big push here, is that he has promised this to the people, but he has to have people who work with him. And if you remember in the speech on, a week ago today, he he actually called the Democrats out in the speech and said they should be voting for it, but they won't because they don't care about you.

You know, this should be a bipartisan issue, that everybody should want tax cuts for Americans. But and he pointed right at the Democrats and said they will not vote for it. Yeah. The end. He's right. They won't. Which is so bizarre to me. Like they're not going to wake up, are they? Know this is going to be great.

This could be the the beginning of the reform of the party. Well, wait a minute, wait a minute. You did have ten of them vote for the censure of Al Green. Is there a small. And you don't need very many of them. You can get it. Half a dozen of them. We could, we could avert a government shutdown.

He might be able to get 3 or 4 senators and might. And that's what I'm saying. If you can get 3 or 4 and snag them from the other side, because they are waking up to the fact that they are on the political Titanic right now. And if they don't find a life raft somewhere, they're going down with it.

And so I, I feel like they maybe there are maybe, possibly this is where it lies is in the senator's hands. And so when we talk to Senator Crapo tomorrow that will be one of the very first questions. Yeah. Yeah I however, I don't, I don't I don't have a lot of faith that they're going to wise up.

So anyway. All right. Well, thank you all for joining us. Today. We appreciate it. And we hope that our little retrospective on the pandemic that started thanks to the World Health Organization, the who do we just call them? The Hill? Yeah, I bet the rock band The Who doesn't like that, but, that it started five years ago.

We hope that wasn't triggering at all for all of you, but, more reflective and a reminder of what we can't ever let happen again with that. That's. The show will be back tomorrow. We'll see you then.