3.3.2025 -- NLS -- Trump, Vance Confront Zelensky in Oval Showdown

On this episode with Neal and Julie, they dive into the viral Oval Office exchange between former President Trump, Vice President J.D. Vance, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. They discuss the range of reactions to the meeting, from those who found it awkward and cringeworthy to others who saw it as a necessary stand for American interests. Neal and Julie analyze the broader context of U.S. aid to Ukraine, President Biden’s growing frustration with Zelensky, and the shifting American perspective on the war effort. They also examine how Zelensky's reception in Washington has changed over time and the political narratives surrounding the meeting. Tune in for their take on the implications of this interaction and what it reveals about the current state of U.S. foreign policy. 

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Transcript

Good morning. It is 807 on Newstalk 1078. Neil Larson. And, I have to tell you, I. We've all seen the video now, the the awkward the cringe Oval office exchange between Zelensky and Trump and Vice President Vance and the opinions could not be more varied. You've been online over the weekend. You've seen the ramp up, ramp up, excuse me, of the Ukraine overlays and, the by the way, there, I said this early, early this morning, in case you missed it.

I do want to tell you there is a new way to pronounce. I hate Donald Trump. Okay, I want you to listen very closely. This is the new pronunciation of I hate Donald Trump. I stand with Ukraine. Okay. Memorize it. I stand with Ukraine. That is the new. Because you know what I hate? Donald Trump was just getting so not novel.

It was just getting way too boring. Unoriginal? True. Like you, I have no doubt you do hate Donald Trump. You just needed a new way to say it. So now you say it. I stand with Ukraine. So what's the take here? What? What is the what's really happening? And, you know, so much of this is subjective. So much of the dynamics going on with Ukraine seem to be hidden where we are told that, oh, we know where all the money went and it's all being tracked and it's it, it's very, very accounted for.

But does have and, and when you ask how do you know that. Well because somebody told me and then you go to the somebody who told them and you say, you say it's being tracked in, it's transparent, accountable. How do you know? Well, somebody told me then you go to that somebody, then you go to that next somebody then.

And do we know. Well Zelensky was on with Brett Bear and Vladimir Zelensky said that, he's totally open to an audit and checking the books. And I don't actually believe that's true. I think he says it. And then you have the left who pronounces I hate Donald Trump. I stand with Ukraine. They go see, see, he's transparent, he says, so he can open the books.

You know that if Elon Musk showed up with his Doge team and said, let's crack open these books wide and we're going to investigate, we're going to track down this money that there would probably be some opposition to that, because at one point Zelensky said that, if you it's all digitized it, it's all there on a document saying where the money went, like, okay, that's not really how this works.

Like, you can put on a document saying, saying this money went for weapons for a unit in Kiev. But unless you actually go to Kiev and you say, show me the weapons and give me the receipts, and who did you buy it from? And unless you actually on the ground verify it, it doesn't really matter what some document says.

So we have this I you know, I heard that, in fact, you may have seen this, but there was a story a while back out of NBC. I want to play this for you about how Biden had a phone call and he got frustrated with Zelensky for being too demanding. Listen. Yeah, that's right Kate. So in this conversation, President Biden called President Zelensky to tell him about a roughly $1 billion package of additional equipment and weapons for the Ukrainian military coming from the United States.

During the course of the call, President Zelensky continued, according to a number of officials who we spoke with who were familiar with the call, President Zelensky continued to talk about the additional equipment and weapons and support that he and his military needed, according to these officials. They said that President Biden finally just got frustrated and lost his temper and told President Zelensky, look, you could be a little bit more grateful.

The reason that this story is, is, is interesting to us, and it's something that we are reporting on and officials are speaking to us about is because it shows that all these months ago, President Biden already realized that there was going to be a point where the American people, members of Congress, where people would start, start potentially pushing back on all these billions and billions of dollars of Ukraine, of of aid and equipment that the U.S. has been providing to Ukraine.

And he knew that the narrative out there needed to be that the Ukrainian people and President Zelensky were grateful for it if this was okay. So we're seeing a pattern here. Keep in mind, this was back in 2025, between 2 and 3 years ago, that even Biden, in his diminished cognitive state, had enough cognitive recognition to know this.

This guy shows up and all he does is demand more money. He might say the pleases and the thank yous just enough to keep getting money. But when it comes down to it, he gets pretty defiant and pretty demanding. It's probably served him well, especially in a in a country in a context like Ukraine, where he, you know, you look at his, just his his trajectory was sort of a comedic movie star, entertainment figure, kind of guy.

And then they repurposed that and made him the leader of a military movement and the president of the country. And I know people are saying, well, that's parallel to our, our country now, too. Yeah, but Trump got there himself. And I don't know if that's all, the case with with Zelensky. Zelensky is very much an asset of the people who want to keep the money flowing and to keep the, well, keep the money flowing.

There's no other way to say it. So he came to Washington, and I think that over the last four years, Zelensky has become conditioned to showing up, wowing the Democrats, dazzling the American media with his just his it just his greatness. And then he's able to leave town with a bag full of money. He can fly back to Ukraine with loads and loads of cash and weapons, and that's a life that he had become accustomed to.

Now, if you're saying, are you questioning his motives, are you saying that he wanted something other than peace and safety for his own people? Why, yes. Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. It's time to stop. And we all know that. It's time to stop. That this this continued pattern isn't going anywhere. All it is, is making sure that some people are getting rich on another continent.

Meanwhile, they're probably American politicians getting rich on this continent and your children and grandchildren are going to have to pay for their ill gotten gains. Trump doesn't want that anymore. And he's standing up for our country. This is the part of this is sort of the meat of the confrontation last week inside the Oval Office. Mr. president, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come to the Oval Office to try to litigate this in front of the American media.

Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the president. Have you tried to bring it into this country? Ever been to Ukraine that you say what problems we have? I have been to come once I have actually. I've actually watched and seen the stories and I know that what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour.

Mr. President, are do you disagree that you've had problems with bringing people into your military? And do you think that I expect I will answer to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to trying to prevent the destruction of your country? A lot of a lot of questions.

Let's start from the beginning. Sure. First of all, during the war, everybody has problems, even you. But you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future. You don't know that. God bless you. God bless you. You got a. Just don't tell us what we're going to field. We're trying to solve a problem.

Don't tell us what we're going to feel. I'm not telling you because you're in no position to dictate that. Remember, this is not. You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel. You we're going to feel very good, feel we're going to feel very good, very strong will feel influence. You're right now not in a very good position.

You've allowed to be in a position to be right about from the very beginning of the world. You're not in a good position. You don't have the cards right now with us. You start having things hard. Right now, you don't excuse me spread. I see you're you're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You think you're gambling with World War Three, you're gambling with World War Three.

And what you're doing is very dis disrespectful to the country. This country? Its back far more than a lot of people said they should have. Have you said thank you once? A lot of times, no. And even today you said you today you went to Pennsylvania and campaign for the opposition in October, offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country.

Okay, so cringing. Right. Like a lot of people are watching this and it's kind of like you've probably been out in public before. Maybe you're at a restaurant and like two adults start to argue and the whole room gets awkward, like they don't care that other people are watching. They're just they're just throwing their emotions out. And it it.

I understand how it could feel a little bit like that. And that's how the American media responded to it. That's how a lot of the hand ringers in the Republican Party, and almost everybody in the Democrat Party's hand ringers, but they just were appalled at this, that Donald Trump had the, the the sagacity and JD Vance had the sagacity to, to act this way.

Well, if you believe that, then you believe the propaganda and the deliberate exclusion of the minutes leading up to that moment. We have become accustomed in America, when you have a head of state and they're in in the I think it was the Oval Office when there when they're in that setting, it's all handshakes and photo ops and nice words.

What we saw was Donald Trump's seriousness about looking out for the United States of America. We got an interesting text this morning I want to share with you. And we get so many texts I, I, we can't share all of them. Like they just flow in. And this text came in. And this person who's not an antagonist to the show, like I look at their text history and they're they're very friendly to many of the things that we say.

But here's what they said. Over the weekend. I saw reactions to the spat between Trump and Zelensky. Not one person who's not an ardent Trump supporter saw it as a positive thing. And I get it. Like I watch this and I'm thinking that was not that was not pleasant to watch. People found it cringeworthy, whatever. And this is what I said back to them, because I think we have to look at things a different way and hopefully a better way, a more accurate way, I said.

Fortunately, Trump doesn't care about a moment by moment approval of the crowd. I can't tell you how many times I've worried about Trump botching something, and it turns out far better than anticipated. We're only partway through this process already. This morning, I'm seeing headlines that Zelensky is now ready to sign the minerals deal. Now, we thought we were there last week.

I'll be honest. I'm going to go in wide eyed here and say that it appeared that Zelensky was ready to sign it, but then he seemed to change the goalposts right before he signed it. So I'm not trusting anything until we actually have a deal and it starts being put in place. However, Trump is truly a great negotiator.

He doesn't care if he looks bad in a news cycle or two or 3 or 10. Trump sees the end game and he knows how to get there. That's why his experience is invaluable, that his business experience of negotiating deals, he he doesn't care if he walks in and he looks like the biggest jerk on the planet.

I don't think he actually did. I think we saw his passion for America and, the frustration coming out that you have had and I have had that it just seems like there's this endless gravy train of of treasure going to Ukraine. Meanwhile, we have deficits and debts that are out the wazoo. But yet we keep sending this to to Ukraine and we're all tired of it.

It's got to this isn't working for the American people anymore. So I'm going to tell you something. And I mean this gently, and I mean with with good intent here. I don't care that you're upset. I it doesn't matter to me that you're ashamed. Now, I'll say this in the spirit of being 100% honest with you, if this had happened with Biden and another head of state, I would have viewed it as a disaster.

And you might think that's hypocrisy on my part. I will tell you, it's not hypocrisy, because Donald Trump is the Tom Brady of making deals. Joe Biden is not. I trust the ball in Donald Trump's hands in a way that I don't trust it in Joe Biden's, or hardly anybody else's hands. I remember back when Barack Obama visited Cuba.

Do you remember that? I don't know if he visited, but he he changed our policy toward Cuba and, met with the Castros and did all that. And I this is terrible. Why would we legitimize a tinhorn communist dictator? And then Trump later went to North Korea Historic trip and met with Kim Jong UN. And I was supportive of that.

So I recognize superficially they optics look sounding like hypocrisy when you trash Obama for working with the Castros, but then you praise Trump for working with, with Kim Jong UN. It all comes down to the competence of the person leading. Obama didn't have it. Trump did. If Biden had done a similar thing in the Oval Office, he wouldn't know how to navigate his way out of a men's bathroom, much, much less through, a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine.

Donald Trump knows how to do it. So when you take into account the capabilities of those involved, then it absolutely, makes a difference. I really quick before we break, I just want to go over some of the, the reactions we've had. Ukraine has been crooked forever. What makes you think things have changed? But, I don't I think it's still crooked.

Here in Idaho, we have bears who become addicted to handouts. They get moved or euthanized. It sounds like Zelensky. Someone else texted in. Zelensky acts like a poster child for death and destruction at the US expense. It was like watching a child bully getting yelled at by the principal. LOL. Someone said, do you feel that maybe this was an act on our part to act like we are not supporting Ukraine so that the European Union would step up, maybe to take our place and see if that worked.

Yeah, I will, but I don't think that it was a tactic. I don't think it was by design. I think Trump is legitimately believing that Europe needs to step up, and that's how it's turning out. Yet Starmer given a big speech saying, we're going to give Ukraine the boots and the planes that they need, to, to survive.

And we're like, thank you. This is what we've been asking for for the last three years, for Europe to step up and shoulder more of this, of this burden. Someone said, I'm a Republican, but I didn't vote for Trump in any election. Zelensky is the one who messed up on Friday. If you're in trouble and you want help, you don't come in in negotiation lines like you're in the position of strength.

You go hat in hand and try to get what you need in a respectful manner. Exactly. And if you watch the meeting in its entire context, that little two minutes that I played for you would make a lot more sense without the Trump hatred. Mineral deal is brilliant. It stops Russia from attacking in the future. An attack on Ukraine would be an attack on the US.

That's exactly right. Plus it's. See, this is this is Trump. Trump is able to to go into a situation and say, I'm going to introduce a third element here in a way that helps you get what you want, and you get what you want. And we definitely get some of what we want. Just relax a little, all right?

It is not the end of the world. I don't think we're any closer to World War three today than we were on Thursday of last week. We'll be back. It's 827 on Newstalk 1079. Everybody on the internet is like acting like Mother Theresa did, just like on the internet. Just like we stand with Ukraine. I go, you don't even have custody of your kids dead.

What?

Who are you talking to? Pick up your kids from soccer practice. Then we'll talk about foreign policy. I foreign policy. Kevin. John. Chris. Very funny comedian. He's so funny and so clean. He is clean. He comes from, like a Bible belt, pastor family, whole bunch of siblings. Lots of his jokes are about being raised in the in religion.

And then they just have really clean comedian. He's awesome. Yeah. Oh, before he was like a stand up comedy guy. And he still does a lot of social media. He used to do these skits of like, he was hiring for chick fil A and yes, like very funny. He's really good. But it's so true. I that's all I saw.

I didn't get on Facebook much this weekend, but I saw enough posts about I stand with Ukraine and I'm like, your entire life is a rock, and you're going to tell me that I that I should stand with Ukraine. I figure out your life first, then we'll chat there. You know, that's so true. There was an exchange between this was years ago, between Jordan Peterson, I think he was actually in Canada and someone who was like a climate activist.

And he pointed out that a lot of people take up these global causes, like the climate, whatever, because their own life is such a wreck. And to offset that, they adopt these big, bigger than life causes that they really have no control over because they're actually running from their own, their own issues. And it does make you wonder the I stand with Ukraine, people who it doesn't really fit their persona.

Have they picked up a cause because they're running from something else? Because they've screwed up everything else in their life. So they're going to go ahead and do this. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know that. Maybe they need to find God because maybe give that much effort to relationship with your Savior. And then maybe we can chat about Ukraine.

Yeah. That's that's that's true. And also to say that after we have given them billions and billions and billions of dollars. Yeah. To say we're not doing enough. Yeah. None of it makes sense. None of it makes sense. The people that are freaking out that feel like that we should we should be so embarrassed about the behavior that happened in the Oval Office.

There was no embarrassment. The embarrassment would have been if we would have allowed that man to continue to treat our country this way. That's what would have been embarrassing. Yeah, just because they put their foot down and place some boundaries. Are you embarrassed about the woman who has to put boundaries around her abusive relationship? Yeah, I mean, I would I would ask the same question.

You're just supposed to continue to be abused. I you know what, Julie? I think they would know. Obviously they're not going to answer yes to that question, but I believe they think it's part of America's job to be a little bit humiliated. To to get the short end of the stick as often as possible. Yeah. Okay. And I, I believe that the America that that rests in my heart.

No it's not I, I believe we can have peace in Ukraine and in Russia. But you have to have the president of Ukraine wanting peace and I'm not convinced that he does. Yeah. And it's just like, okay, we could we could find multiple, things that happen in America that are very similar to this. Why do I despise this and completely have zero respect for Anthony Fauci?

Because he didn't care about, you know, he kept our he cared about himself and he was working in an agenda. And your death and your grandmother's death and your mother's death and everybody else's death was just what was going to happen in order to accomplish what he wanted. Yeah. Ukraine is nothing different. Yeah. Every Ukrainian death had doesn't mean anything.

It's part of the bigger cause. Yeah, yeah, it it is. And it's really sad. I, I look at it, I have always. Have you ever had a moment where you thought, oh, Zelensky's a good guy? Oh, no. We were saying there was two villains in this clear. Three years ago. Yeah. When we were analyzing this, we got that part right.

I know for me, I thought this was going to be over much quicker, I really did. Yeah, I got that completely wrong. But I never, never turned Zelensky into a good guy. Yeah, ever. No, I didn't either. And I always was like, well, you look at the the conditions out of which he came, I don't think that just the context of his career politically, it does not to me.

But people fall for it. That's what's so frustrating, is they fall for this narrative that he is this heroic leader of this country under siege. You got to stop drinking that Kool-Aid because it's not accurate. Yeah. I'd also I would beg those who think that this is just about war, like it is just about, Russia grabbing some land.

You got to let that go too. Yeah. This is actually about money. And it all boils down to that. And there is a lot of money involved in that land. There's a lot of money involved in the government. There's a lot of money involved in, holding various governments hostage in order to get what you want. And there's a lot of money involved that's being sent back to other villains in this story.

You know, one thing I would like to ask those who disagree with us on this, and I, you know, I'm open to disagreement. I will I will concede, I, I understand why people could watch what happened in that meeting on Friday and feel very cringey about it. It did just see that sort of roar back and forth.

And it's not what we usually see in that setting. It's usually a really feel good photo op. And the tough talk happens behind closed doors because it should, you know, but I, I just, just it's going to be fine. I, I think people overreacted and panicked and it underscored their ideas about Donald Trump and, and they it's just it's almost like their existence is what more can I find to hate about Donald Trump today.

And that gave you your thing to hate right. So yeah it's going to ask a question. Can't remember what it was. But we had that we also have it's March July. Yeah. And tell them what's tonight. The last home game for ice. You lose last game of the season regular season phrase you. It's been a great season.

It has been a very good season. They had a good weekend. They swept their road game against Idaho and Eastern Washington. And they're back for one final game tonight I think Northern Arizona and should win that if we just keep playing well and senior night as well. So. And when does the tournament start? It starts this coming weekend.

Okay. So quick turnaround from this game. Yeah. Into the tournament. Yeah. Yeah. So the championship game is Wednesday night of next week. All right. Let's hope the Bengals are in that yeah yeah for sure. And I stayed up a little late on Saturday night. In fact I stayed up so late on Saturday night. It was Sunday morning because there was a historic, lunar landing.

Yeah, it was a private company. Blue. What was it called? Blue. Well, the name of the craft was Blue Ghost. Blueghost. That it? Yeah, but it was Firefly Aeronautics that teamed up with NASA. And I thought, you know what? They were broadcasting this thing live on NASA's TV. I want to I'm going to watch the coverage. And, it it was pretty amazing.

It really was, was quite cool to kind of watch it, to see it behind the scenes and to have that totally fits your personality. So glad you could do that. Yeah, I knew you were going to kind of laugh at it, though. Of course. Would we be us if I didn't laugh? No, no. I knew, like I said, I knew it was going to happen, but but yeah, it was it was fun to watch.

Also, while I was waiting for that to happen, I fit in the Gabby Petito murder documentary, which was heartbreaking. It is heartbreaking to watch. Was there I'm trying to remember because I watched it a couple of weeks ago. Three episodes. Right. Longer episodes. Yeah. They're like an hour and ten minute episodes. Our 15 minute episodes. But super interesting.

It does leave you a little unsatisfied. Be prepared. You feel very empty that some this couldn't have turned out differently than it did. Yeah. Like you watch a a relationship that is toxic and abusive. And keep in mind you're, you're compressing this years long relationship into three hourlong episodes, but it's just the codependence and the just get out, find a way to get out, to end it to, to leave, to to go.

You know, and, it I don't know, it's just sad. It is. It is really sad. I mean, not much different than what we were just talking about was Ukraine and, America. Yeah, that that I wish we could change the culture that we would. It would be okay to set boundaries in those relationships that. Yeah, it would have been okay for Gabby to walk away and I, I think that it's perfectly fine for America to stand up for their, their values and their purposes and not be treated horribly and, but look at the way people look at the culture.

Yeah. We're supposed to bend. Yeah. Yeah, it. Yeah, it was. Anyway, and Todd Koons makes a cameo in it as well. Yeah, he does a couple times. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Which, was kind of kind of cool. You had told me about it, so. All right, we're going to break. It's 841 on Newstalk 107, and we'll be back after this.

All right. It's 846 on Newstalk 1079. Julian, I drop acid here in the studio, also known as Himalayan pink sea salt, sea salt under our tongue. I don't even know what. Dropping acid. I don't know what it looks like either. I think if you and I showed up at a party where they were dropping acid, we would be.

We'll noticeable. I know it would be like, is that Himalayan sea salt?

Yeah. All right, well, we're back here. If you'd like to reach us on the, Stones Automotive group calling text, then my brain just blocked up right there. 28542107. And you can call and you can text. And I would just love to hear people's take on. Oh, I that line is blowing up today. Crazy, crazy. A lot of support for Trump, by the way.

A lot of people felt like this was exactly what needed to happen, even if it wasn't, I believe it wasn't planned. So even if it was a very emotional reaction by JD Vance and then by Trump, that's fine. Yeah. Sometimes you have to react that way. Yeah, I here's the thing. I totally get why people thought it was cringe and a bad look.

I get it, I get it. But I think if you look at the overall context of it, you're like, yeah, this makes sense. Here we have a president who is tired of seeing billions and billions of taxpayer dollars going to to Ukraine, and what is being reciprocated, what's what quite quantitatively, what is being reciprocated here? Yeah, I mean, we we definitely got the short end of the stick in this deal.

And if we can get the mineral deal done then that will start to level out. I want to make a comparison between Kamala Harris and JD Vance. We saw you played the clip during your monologue of JD Vance laying it down, like saying, here's the line and you have crossed it. Yeah. And you need to come here and be more humble.

That's a very short version of what he said. If that had been Kamala Harris sitting there, do you remember when she talked about the Ukraine war? Well, we've got two countries and we've got Ukraine, which is a small country, and Russia, which is a big country. Eight she couldn't have even participated in this conversation yet. We have such a strong vice president who said, absolutely not.

You will respect the president and you will do it. Now while we're sitting in this office, so different, so different. And oh my goodness, we should be so grateful. Such a such a stark difference. She she would have said, well, we're going to seek the root causes of what's happening in, you know. Yeah. All right. Let's go to the phones.

285421079 Caller how are you today? Good. Can you hear me? Yeah. Go ahead. You're on. Hi. My name is Jeff from from Rigby. And, I to watch the, the Zelensky interview with Trump and J.D. Vance and and, I, you know, I'm wondering, how Senator James Rish is taking all of this, you know, for the last three years, James Rich and Senator Rich and Senator Cory Paul have done nothing but dig their heels and and support this war effort.

They've been behind it 100%. In fact, Rich, Senator Rich gets in the airplane when this first started and went over there and gave Zelensky a big hug and a smile and said, don't worry about it. We're going to support you as long as it takes. I'm wondering what's his position on it now? Well, next time we ask him, we'll talk about that.

We'll ask him that question. Yeah. We do not have. Senator is scheduled for this week, but he should be on a week from Thursday. So we can ask him that question. I will say, and I don't I'm not trying to run interference at all, but I, I think there was a point early on in the war when it was clear Russia was the aggressor here, and they are the aggressor, but there there was near unanimous support for Zelensky, even from people who are now opposed to what's been happening and and recognizing that this has gone on too long.

So I would just caution against cherry picking one event and then applying it to today, because I think Senator Rishi's position probably has migrated since that early moment in the war. Well, I would certainly hope so. And, you know, he, he, and crap all I've heard people talk about this to their position has always been this, like you just said, that Putin was the aggressor and that Putin invaded Ukraine unprovoked and unwarranted.

And 2022. Okay. But they never go back to 2014 and talk about the coup that happened in Ukraine and about how many you Russian, Ukrainian citizens in the Donbass area that Zelensky and Ukraine bombed and killed, and the Minsk agreement that came out of all of that and that was signed and that was violated once again by NATO.

So, I mean, you can say all you want that Putin is the aggressor, but there's a deeper side of that story that neither Chris, Chris or Chris Paul will talk about. Well, it it is very complicated. I want to go back to something Julie said earlier. That's spot on. We're making a mistake of assigning someone to be a villain and assigning someone to be a hero.

I I'll be honest with you, I'm not a fan of either Putin or Zelenskyy. I, I don't think Putin's great because Zelensky's bad. I don't think Zelensky's great because Putin's bad. I think there's corruption on both sides of this. I think we do want peace, and we've got to find some way to have peace in that area, because you have a lot of innocent people who are dying.

And, and I'm, I'm a firm believer in a country's autonomy. But I, I don't don't make Putin a good guy cause you don't like Zelenskyy. That's all I'll say. Yeah. Well, that's I can understand that. And war's never a good thing. And as far as I'm concerned, this should have been condemned just with the same stance that Trump's taken on it years ago.

And why Senator Rich and Senator Crapo and even Simpson wouldn't even utter a word about it is beyond me. It's almost like they're it's almost like it's bred into their blood. That's a deep state Warhawks. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's not like it's not like we have a whole treasure tree. Treasure chest of war money set aside this 350 billion that this debacle has cost us.

That's the money that the fed has to print. And all that does is increase inflation. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. Thanks a lot, Senator Chris. Thanks a lot Cory Paul. All right. Thank you. Thank you for the call. We got a break. We'll be back after this on Newstalk 179. When grows up around here and figures out that this is a bad war that's heading in a bad direction with death and destruction and all kinds of dangers surrounding it, that could spiral into a broader conflict.

The sooner people grow up and realize that, I think the more progress we're going to be able to make. All right. It's 859.

Welcome back. It's 907 on Newstalk 178, Neil Larson, along with Julie Mason. And if you'd like to join us on the program. (208) 542-1079 that's the Stones Automotive Group call and text line. And Julie, let's go right to the phones. Let's not keep the people waiting. Caller welcome to the show. How are you today? I'm fine, thank you. Good.

What's on your mind today? Oh, I was just listening to this little spat that went on in the white House. Yeah. And and, am I on at this point? You are on. Yes. I put you right on the air. So you're on right now. Okay. Well, a person has to watch the entire thing, I don't know, did you get an opportunity to see the whole 45 minutes plus?

Not every minute of it. No, but I saw enough of the earlier stuff to, put the the the big clip that they played in in better context. Yes, definitely. If you watch just that last little bit, there appears to be a couple of bullies in the white House. But the constraint and the kindness and compassion that was shown to that guy during the first part about Trump, one reporter teasing Zelensky for his choice of clothing and Trump making a fun joke about, hey, I like the way you're dressed.

And, you know, just being Trump. Trump can be very kind and compassionate when he wants to be. And he has that side showing, and he showed it reaching over and touching twice his back and encouraging him. And yeah, it was interesting. And I can definitely see why the patience was worn and what as he was doing that he didn't think well of yet.

So anybody out there just remember there's two sides to every coin. And you need to need to see both sides before you judge. Yeah. Thank you. Great. Thank you for the call. Watch the broader context. Right. Yeah. And that's been pointed out by a lot of people on the right that you, you can't understand what was going on.

If all you picked up was from the moment that J.D. Vance laid down the tough talk. Yeah. If you start right there, I'm sure you can turn that into them being a bunch of bullies, you have to have not only context of the 50 minute meeting, but the context of what has been going on the last three years, the context of how badly the Biden administration screwed this up, the context that we archived an old NBC clip that was about a year into the war where Biden lost his patience with Zelensky.

Yeah, there is so much more context than the 4 or 5 minutes that the media is highlighting. Following the the meeting between Trump and Zelensky and J.D. Vance in the white House on Friday. Yeah. And I, I feel like in a lot of ways, Zelensky has been kind of a one note wonder, like he shows up in Washington and you, for whatever reason, maybe because he I don't know why.

I won't even speculate. Why he's garnered the affection of Democrats and moderate Republicans and even some conservatives at different times. But he always just wants more money. So he's like, that's the thing is, the next dose is going to be the thing that helps us beat Russia. And Trump has always said from day one, we have to change our strategy in Ukraine.

We can't just keep sending money over there. It's not it's not good for our, it's not good for our situation. And it's certainly not good to, to just keep doing this because we're just going to keep getting what we're getting, which is a prolongation of the war. So. Right, right, right. Let's go to the phones.

Hi, caller. How are you today? Hi. Good. I just wanted to add to to Julie's point with the context. Like if you look at what was happening the the week leading up to this, Zelensky was giving everybody a really hard time. And they actually had people who were on his side prepping him for this meeting. When they finally got to a point where they thought they could sign something and he was asked to wear a suit.

I mean, he has a $13 million mansion in Florida. He can afford a suit. And he that was kind of thumbing his nose, like everything that he was doing was actually to his nose at the administration. Yeah, yeah, I think so. And and, you know, I think there is kind of that expectation. But I also think Zelensky has a costume and this is his costume.

Yeah. Because he showed up in a black shirt, a black pants for the the impromptu summit that was held yesterday. It is his costume. Yeah. And you know what, I, I don't really judge people if if they're dressed differently, but the level at which you're dressed, especially when you have resources, is a sign of respect. Like if somebody walks in to church and they're wearing jeans and a t shirt, I don't judge them.

That may be all they are able to to manage, or they just have a different taste or whatever. And I don't let that eat at me. Zelensky Zelensky's a multi gazillionaire and he can dress like a head of state. He doesn't have to show up in, in almost every context looking like he's leading some military group. Like it just has kind of a weird look.

I mean, yeah, it's it's definitely it definitely has an aggressive stance to it because that's what he looks like is that this is a military uniform and he's showing up. I also, wouldn't dismiss the body language that was happening. He was sitting forward on the edge of the seat, arms folded across his chest. Most of the meeting.

He rolled his eyes a few times during the meeting. Yeah, there was more than just the outfit he was wearing. Yeah. That's true. The body language was not great either. Let's go to the phones. Hi, caller. Hi. Hi. Hi, Neal. Hi. Yes, I agree with you, because actually, one of the reporter said that when the reporter asked that question, he actually say them.

Oh, probably one of these guys are going to dress like lighters. We said that. He said, oh, but maybe not as expensive of juice. So he's trying to protect himself like, oh, he's a man that doesn't have probably enough money to even dress like Trump. What anybody else is doing. I supposed to wear the suit? I think he just.

The other thing that I wanted to make coming is what we got. Then I watch the whole thing too. And he was studying Trump and then practically then me has never really spoke any peace deals. So why, if he wanted to do it, he was. When they do that with Trump. So he was demeaning the authority. Then Trump has and also the experience and the criticism President Trump have when he negotiated peace treaties or anything else.

So he was undermining his outlet. And I think that was very disrespectful. And I glad and Gabe unassisted, being, put him on his place. Yeah. So I feel really bad about people making negative comments about bullying. So Linsky that's not true at all. They need to watch the whole thing, and they'll see how that many errors are going to come to the US to demand for money when he has no respect for, the authority for or near President Trump.

Yes. Thank you for the well stated, so well stated. And we've been saying this for months. How arrogant this man is. He was showing up acting this way with Biden. So I don't know why I why are we shocked a that Zelenskyy showed up like this and be that a different administration who is supported by America in this by the way behave differently than Biden?

Why is the mainstream media I mean, I know the question, the answer to my question, but just think about it logically. It makes no sense that they're like, oh, how dare he be a bully? Well, it's a different administration with a prolonged war that shouldn't have gotten this far with a very, very arrogant and and dirty. I'm going to use that word leader.

Yeah. Why are we shocked? They they responded this way. Yeah. I don't know. It's a new it's a new era. Yes. Yeah. As someone just said that Zelensky has his own line of clothing and he makes money by wearing. Is that true? I have no idea. But I wouldn't be surprised about that at all. I'm going to ask really quick.

Okay. I'm it does it does have a certain logo that he keeps wearing the shirt, the black shirt that he wore in the summit yesterday. The logo was big on the shirt, the black shirt that he wore with Trump and JD Vance. The logo was small, so it could be a clothing brand that he wears. Yeah, it could be.

I have no idea. Okay, so he's now a Kardashian? Oh, absolutely. You see, we this is the other thing. Why is this so shocking that we call this man arrogant? People act like, how dare you call him arrogant? He took America's money and held massive parties. We have videos from the capital as Ukrainians are dying. He's holding raves at the Capitol.

Yeah, I know, I know he bit of that. Well, Julie, you sent me some CNN polling and and the the support from the United States people to Ukraine has plummeted. Listen to this. Holy Toledo. Look at this trend line here. U.S. support for Ukraine is too much. Back when the war began, back in February of 2022, it was just 7% up like a rocket ship.

My goodness, up now in February of 2025 to 41%. And the clear majority of Republicans and of course, Republicans are in charge of the U.S. government. Now, 62% of Republicans say that the U.S. support for Ukraine is too much. What a difference from just three years ago. I can remember, John, all those backyards in the United States with those Ukrainian flags far fewer of them today, as Americans opinions on Ukraine have changed dramatically.

What about opinions of Ukrainian president? Right. You know, obviously, if you would expect changes amongst the public on feelings towards Ukraine, feelings towards Zelensky have changed also dramatically. Look at this confident Zelensky will do the right thing when it comes to world affairs. Back in 2022, it was a clear majority, 72% through the floor, through the floor and by 2024, just 48% of Americans say that they're confident that Zelensky will do the right thing when it comes to world affairs.

And GOP confidence has also plummeted dramatically. Now, the clear majority of Republicans are not confident, not confident that Zelensky will do the right thing when it comes to world affairs. Really a real trend line, ones you rarely see in the American public when it comes to Ukraine. Zelensky confidence in both okay and and incredible to see that collapse of support.

Yeah that's almost 30 points. The drop in that we did get a text saying geez, I wish I knew what Bill from Wealth of Health thought about this. I can't put words in his mouth about what he thought about the meeting on Friday. I can tell you he called in. It was about a week ago, probably last Monday.

Yeah. And he talked about Ukraine. And he is thoroughly disappointed in Zelensky's behavior and leadership. Yeah. And he says we absolutely shouldn't keep sending them money. Yes. I mean, I don't know what his opinion is about the meeting, but that that was his opinion prior to the meeting. All right. Let's go to the phones. Caller, welcome to the show.

How are you? Good. How are you guys? Good. Good. Hanging in there. Hey, so, has it been verified that the met with, Chris Murphy or Chris, somebody from the Democrat party just before the meeting with Trump and Vance? I hadn't I hadn't heard, but. Why would that be an issue? I well, I I'm pretty sure that they did meet just like an hour before and I don't know what they discussed, but why you would meet with there with a group of Democrats an hour before you meet with, did we vote with administration?

That just seems weird. But even if that's the case and that's it sounds weird. So now he went over to Europe and now they want to present America a peace plan. You don't need to present us. You need to that. Yeah. Said you meet. Just go lay in. Yeah. There is. So there are reports that he did meet with anti-Trump Democrats right before that meeting.

Yes. I don't know if Senator Chris Murphy was in that. He's a Democrat. He has been on, CNN this morning saying he regrets voting for the confirmation of Marco Rubio because he did remember, 99 senators voted for the confirmation of, Secretary of State Rubio. So he's on CNN this morning. He's saying he regrets that. He's also saying he's going to skip Trump's address to Congress tomorrow.

So, yes, Senator Murphy is coming out and showing zero support for Trump. So how the meeting became soured. Well, it it could because it it did appear that Zelensky reversed himself that he was ready to sign that deal. New York Post is reporting that, before meeting President Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal that the president was offering.

According to Senator Chris Murphy. Murphy posted on X just finished a meeting with Zelensky in Washington. He confirmed that the Ukrainian people will not support a fake peace agreement where Putin gets everything he wants and there are no security arrangement arrangements for Ukraine. He attached a picture of Zelensky at a conference table with Murphy seated on the opposite side.

40 minutes later, Zelensky arrived at the white House, where Trump met his car, smiled, shook his hand, walked him into the Oval Office. The meeting as the world knows now, quickly went off the rails and ended with Trump angrily ejecting the arrogant ingrate from the white House. The earlier meeting with Dems undercuts wild claims that Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance staged an ambush.

In fact, it was Zelensky who came with an ulterior motive. And I will say it was the Democrats who sabotaged the Trump agreement with Ukraine and Russia. Absolutely, totally. So the optics of the meeting, now that, you know, are completely different. Absolutely. They are. Yeah. Yeah, that and that, you know what that adds even more to the context of Zelensky's, you know, it just he has attitude, his body language and all of that.

I they're there's clearly more at play here. And I'll tell you I will tell you if the Democrats could stop a cure for cancer in the midst of their Trump hatred, they would do it that nothing will get in the way of them hating Trump. Right? So. Well, I just wanted to bring that up. Sure. Appreciate you guys.

Thank you. Thank you. I think it's I mean, it's a great point and, the regime against Trump is still trying to operate. I think they're on life support. Yeah. And this was one way that they could make it happen. They've always been in bed with Zelensky. And so if they were going to cause a disruption to Trump, this was probably one possibility for that.

Well, and how many of those Democrats need the gravy train to keep happening. Yeah. They've been benefiting I, I mean I'm not saying Senator Chris Murphy has but he sure being very vocal about it this morning obviously before the meeting. And he's not going to show up. Fine. Don't come like yeah. This is like the people who boycott Spotify because of Trump.

Good harm yourself Senator Murphy stay home. Yeah. Wallow in your tears. Go right ahead. This piece is actually really good in the in the New York Post from Saturday. It says the logic is twisted beyond description, but any port in a storm will do. And with Trump off to the fastest start of any president in modern history, Dems are desperate to be relevant.

It is a mark of their bad judgment that Zelensky is their new hero. He and they have zero chance of persuading tapped out Americans that an open ended commitment of their tax dollars and possibly sending troops to Ukraine is sensible. And certainly Trump supporters did not vote for that. The president himself campaigned on bringing the war to a fast end, not sending our army to fight Russians.

He made it repeatedly clear for three years that he viewed President Joe Biden's strategy of providing just enough support for Ukraine to keep the war going without any plan for victory as a fool's errand. He's also been consistent about his desire to stop the enormous loss of life on both sides, and the destruction of Ukrainian cities and towns.

Okay, interesting. Yep. And I think true. So having said that, does this help the Democrats knowing this, that they sabotaged a peace deal? Does it help them? You mean in voter confidence? Yeah. Help I don't think so. I think it hurts there. Yes. I mean they don't really have much of an image right now. But anyway, I don't think it helps them at all.

925 if you'd like to join us on the program this morning, the stones automotive group calling text line is (208) 542-1079. I'll be back. Hey guys. Hillary. I just rolled my eyes at that CNN Kiran. So hard that now my head hurts. No. Yeah. Resistance Rangers protest at national parks across the US. Okay, then pack your crap and leave.

Oh, goodness. I could go to Yellowstone today. I don't need a ranger. I don't need it to happen. Sure, we can find other people to take your jobs. Oh, I didn't even pay any attention whatsoever to the Academy Awards. Oh, I didn't either. I'm just so glad that there's not very much about it this morning. There's not.

There's just. And that's what needs to happen with these award shows. They just need to go away. You know, the thing I don't like about them, they're so self-congratulatory. We're so cool. Do you see how cool. Yeah, we're really cool. Yeah. Oh your dress. Oh that's so cool. Did you see my dress? My dress is so cool.

Should we hate Trump together. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. We have cute dresses together. And let's hate Trump together. Yeah, yeah, that's what it's like. I don't even know who won big. I don't even care who won. Can average people go to the Oscars, or are all those seats taken up by industry people? I have no idea. I do know average people sit outside because they do the big long walk and people sit in the bleachers along the walk.

But I don't know about the seats inside. I don't even know how big these auditoriums are that they hold them in. Do they have these upper balconies that have massive amounts of seats? Kind, but not a lot like it looks like when they pan to the crowd. Like there might be 4 or 5000 seats, like a good high school gym.

Yeah, yeah, it does not look like, is it the Oscars that is notably anti-black? Is that. Oh is it. There was some award, big award I, you know, for loving fashion as much as I do. Yeah. I loathe Hollywood fashion. Yeah, I like beauty, fashion. I don't like Hollywood fashion. Yeah. Well, like, I've never, ever made that distinction before.

Which tells you how much I pay attention to fashion. They're very different because a lot of what comes out of Hollywood is not pretty. Yeah, it's not pretty star. It's almost. It's outrageous stuff. Yeah. And so they they don't speak to me. I don't need to look at I mean it's not beautiful things. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I guess the black actress who's going to play in the Jesus Christ Superstar, she was dressed up like a demon, apparently.

Okay, gross. I'm so glad I know nothing about it. That speaks way more about us. Yeah, and where we are at in our lives and that we don't need them. Yeah, yeah, they're good.

930 on Newstalk 1079 Neil Larson and Julie Mason and I will tell you, we are paid to in part inform you. Yet we are proud to come to these microphones this morning and tell you we know nothing about the Oscars from over the weekend except that they happened. And, I think you love us more for that. Yeah.

Then if we came to you and said, guess who won this award? Guess who won that award? I think we would lose respect of our audience, Julie, if we knew more about what happened at the end, I think we would too. I have heard, I guess if I'm going to give you what I have seen, Conan, Conan O'Brien did a great job, I guess.

Didn't really step into it, didn't push the boundaries too far, you know, a few jokes, handled it well. He's good at that. That's not surprising. I heard he was a barbarian.

What? Nobody who's under the age of 45 even knows what you're talking about, which makes the joke a little funnier. But anyway, welcome back to 08542107. You know. I have a cool thing going. Do you want to shift gears, friends? Sure. Are you ready? Yeah. I was just. I was looking actually for the Chris Murphy tweet that, gave me a whole bunch of information.

Well, about an hour ago, Caroline Leavitt, that's the press secretary for Trump. She put out a tweet. These are some amazing numbers. Here's what she wrote. Remember when Joe Biden and Democrats said they needed a border bill to secure the border? President Trump did this in four weeks. Then at least the first four or the four weeks of February for the last four years.

So you got a lot of force there came in 2022, 166,000 and some change. Illegal immigrants came across the border in February of 2022, February of 2023. It was actually down by 10,156 and some change in February 2024. So Biden's last year, 190,000, just a few short of 190,000, came across in those four weeks. Any guesses what the four weeks of February were for Trump?

I just heard it was down like 96% 8300 illegal immigrants. We went from 190 190,000 to 8300. That's incredible. In credible. And he didn't do anything. All he did was shut down the policies that had been enacted by an executive order by Biden. That's it. He existed and shut down the previous policies. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he did.

I guess I need to give some credit. He did appoint Tom Homan and these illegal immigrants are terrified of that man. So we should give that credit also. Oh, I think so. But but isn't this the beauty of a deterrent posture? Like, like going and saying, look, you're if you come across we're just going to deport you, we're going to detain you, we're going to deport you.

Don't even bother. And it's working like it's working. Yep. 8300 people. That's very manageable. Yeah. In a four week span, America can manage 8300 people. In a four week span, we had zero control over 190,000 people. And we were just doling out money. Yeah, yeah, I love it. See, the the whole doctrine, Julie, of peace through strength is usually applied to war and to military.

It applies in so many other areas. It applies in immigration. I think it applies in the economy and in our fiscal policy. And I love that Trump owns it. And and really it was Ronald Reagan. I mean, it's always been the case that America's military, at least the philosophy of Republican presidents, is have a military so lethal and so powerful, our our enemies won't even think to to to come at us.

That's a beautiful, beautiful doctrine. Reagan kind of solidified it. I think Trump is exceeding in some ways what Reagan did. I do believe so, too. I don't think he has, that warm, fuzzy feeling for a lot of people, even the people who support everything he does. Sometimes it makes him a little edgy. His behavior. And I don't think you got that companionship with Ronald Reagan.

I think when people supported what Reagan did, they also kind of loved the man. Yeah. I don't care if you love our president or not. I want outcomes. Yeah, I want health for America. And so I don't need that warm fuzzy with Trump I don't. And so for me it is it is a with that with not needing to value that.

It is a form of exceeding what Ronald Reagan did. Yeah. Yeah. Because Reagan could be do the warm fuzzy thing. And I think Trump is just outcome based. He's just like, let's that let's get a good outcome here. And so and I say this with all the respect of the person who texted in earlier this morning that not one person other than ardent Trump supporters saw it as a good thing.

Number one, that's not true. We've heard from people who didn't support Trump, who thought that his his approach is is good. However, I think it's probably largely true. But Trump doesn't care if he makes you feel good and warm and fuzzy from one news cycle to the next. He doesn't care. And I'm glad he doesn't care, because that frees him up to do the things that need to be done to get it done right.

And and there will be people that it does not matter how good this turns out, they will never give Trump a shred or scintilla of credit. But Trump doesn't care if it protected America and America's interests and it stops the war. Who cares whether his natural opponents like it or not, agree with it or not, or give him credit or not, it doesn't.

It doesn't matter. The the the good outcome is the good outcome. I mean, if we reference back to the phone call a few minutes ago, why should I even have any value into what Senator Chris Murphy is doing except for my state? I don't care what he does. You're in the minority. Sit down, be quiet, and let this carry forward.

If you don't show up for the for, Trump talking to Congress, no one cares. Yeah. No one cares. Yeah. Quit overvaluing who you are. Yeah, yeah. If I were Trump, I, I would say as much plus some more. I would tell Zielinski, if you come here, you will negotiate with my administration. The Democrats have no power in Washington espec.

I mean, when you especially House Democrats, but when you look at it, they're in the minority in the Senate. They're in the minority in the House. Why would you give them any time they don't have the power to negotiate or promise or threaten anything. Okay. And I'm sure look at the horrible position you're currently in. Yeah. Because of it.

Look at they, they sabotage this deal. That would have brought peace to your country. But you listen to them and, and you know I don't know if there's anything actionable against that. I think it's probably pretty normal for heads of state to meet with various political leaders. But if I were Trump, I would say they sabotaged your chance for peace.

We can do this again. But if you take a meeting with any Democrat in Washington, the deal's off. Now you're here to negotiate with the Trump administration not to hear all a bunch of different voices. You come here, represent your country, and you meet with us. All right, let's go to the phones. 28542 179 caller go ahead and call.

Hello there. I got a tangent for you if you're willing. Go ahead. This, well, it spins off of the meeting in the Oval Office where JD Vance stepped in. Trump let him. I said when Trump won that this can't be for years. It's got to be at least 12. And I don't remember I'm 50. I don't remember in my lifetime hearing about the vice president hearing his name on such a regular basis.

I hope they're grooming him. Yeah. Oh, I think they are. For. Yeah, yeah. I want the guy to be a household name for the next whatever it is, 34 months, and then let's see him on the campaign trail. Yeah. Yeah, I would agree. And, I would you know, it's still interesting because you have Ron DeSantis still out there, and I think he's doing things to try and stay relevant.

But I think JD Vance has much more of the spotlight than than DeSantis has right now. Well, and we didn't hear about al Gore unless he was behaving as a black person. Kamala Harris was an idiot. I don't remember. In my lifetime seeing a vice president take such a prominent role. I think it's fantastic. Yeah. Yeah, I do too.

It's a it's a different time in Washington. Thank you for the call. And thanks for pointing that out. Plus, he's good at it. I think that is the the the most bright spot of it all. It's it's refreshing to see a vice president who actually understands how a country works. It's refreshing to see somebody who doesn't show up, compromise.

Yeah. Whether chemically or whatever was going on with Kamala, like he's, it's refreshing to see somebody who cares about family. It's refreshing. There's so many just, moments with J.D. Vance and I let it be. Let it keep being in the highlight reels, because that only helps the Republican Party, you know, typically, and this is another way that I think Trump has broken the rules.

A lot of times you pick a vice president to be in the shadows, to be more subdued because you don't you don't want someone taking spotlight away from the boss. But with Trump, he kind of lets J.D. Vance do what JD Vance is going to do. And I don't think I really anticipated that because Mike pence was more of the traditional vice president for the most part.

He was fairly loyal up until January 6th. And, you know, he he carried himself well, but he didn't steal spotlight from Trump. I it's just a it's a totally different dynamic now. It is totally different. And I did not have an issue that JD Vance didn't look to Donald Trump for permission with the comments that he said, because the his comments weren't about JD, the, the, the, the comments the vice president made were looking at Zelensky and going, you will not disrespect my president this way.

Yeah. And I and great. I mean, isn't that what every president wants your back up to be so engaged in what you're doing that they'll go to war for you. Yeah. And I mean that literally. Yeah. No it's it's a great question. And I also think that Zelensky has been coming to Washington and working with the Biden administration for several years with the boundaries at some one point much looser, much more vague.

But he was able to get a lot of what he wanted. Boundaries are very different now, and I just don't think Zelensky learned that well, he's he certainly did late last week, in that meeting. But I, I think he was just conditioned to come to Washington, try to look like the hero. Try to look my country's in, see it under siege and and and we need this assistance and whatever.

And for the, our political system just rolled over and gave him the cash, and it's not that way anymore. Yeah. All right. 285421079. We do have to break for the news, but we'll come back and continue after this. All right? Respect is earned. Trump has earned none. Somebody sent that.

It's not our regular hater. Yeah, I don't know. He does hate, but it's not the regular hater. How do they. What? You know, it's funny. I just sent. Oh, wow. It's going to be a long four years for you. My condolences. It's always interesting when people make massive blanket statements like that. Yeah, as if their opinion should be everyone's opinion.

Well, more than half of the country disagrees with you. They have found things to respect in Trump, or they wouldn't have voted for him. Yeah. So already you're kind of discredited. Yeah. But let's go with what he's he's talking about. There's nothing we can find respect on the, reformation of the criminal act his first four years.

You couldn't find respect in that because that's a that was a very left leaning thing. Yeah. The support of IVF again a very left leaning thing that's controversial to anti-abortion people. You couldn't find any respect in that. Hey it's such a I hate Trump. He might as well have said that versus there's no reason I haven't found a single thing to respect or however.

Yeah, okay. Okay. Well then you're just not being a very rational, calm person because there are things standing up seconds after he got shot and raised his fist and said, fight, fight, fight. That didn't earn some respect. Nevertheless, not that his relationship with his grandchildren. Yeah. Okay. Trudeau flying down to Mar-A-Lago hours.

After the the tariff announcements are made. That's not respect. And then Trudeau resigns because he knows his future ain't so bright. I mean, that, like, you know, I hate him. So this is what I'm going to say. Yeah. Going to be great for Putin, though, thanks to Dan. That's what he wrote back to you. Again, this person believes that they they understand 100% the way Putin thinks.

This goes back to our conversation in the 7:00 hour. Anyone who's going to text him today and say they know exactly how Putin is reacting to Friday's meeting, you're clueless, I and I, that's all I have to say to you. The fact that you think you can put yourself into a dictator's mind when you're not even a you're not an expert, you're not involved in foreign policy, you're not in the Defense Department.

You're not you don't have anything to do with it except for a bystander. And you know exactly how Putin's going to respond to this. Yeah. Okay. Oh, they were a fan of ranked choice voting. What do they mean when they said, we live in America, not not fired? I don't know, I saw that. Are they talking about, was this how old was this one?

Because were they talking about the, November 11th and it was an unprompted text, like there was no text from us before it. So they live in America not fired. We would have been discussing the election, not Saturday, with where we could have potentially been talking about Biden being ousted and Kamala being put in. Maybe it's possible. I'm not sure.

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A lot of times they can make adjustments or answer your questions or, or make accommodations. Their prices are competitive. Delivery is free. And the Idaho Falls area for all orders, $75 or more. Yeah, yeah. You're just only harming yourself by not getting involved because we have text after text, conversation after conversation with people who have taken our advice about grand peaks, primates.

They all love it, too. Yeah. So go get yourself. Yeah. Can I read a text? Sure. Go right ahead. Too bad you didn't watch the Oscars. A guy from Idaho won an Oscar for best documentary short by a white dude in dad's shorts for Unholy Alliance.

I won, I can confirm he does wear dad shorts. I can confirm I. Okay, yeah, I can't, I can't fight that battle. It's true, it's true. So we're having someone who is not texted, in in a while, like December 19th, prior to today was the last they texted and they reminded us Trump garnered less than 50% of the vote yet again, that there is no mandate.

Because of that. Okay. And then here they are almost, what, two months, three months later, respect is earned. Trump has earned none. And, you know, you can say whatever you want about Trump, this First Amendment, you can text in. Sure. But when you look at how the tariffs have brought Canada and Mexico to the table, increased announcements for manufacturing in the United States of America, even libs like Tim Cook of Apple is announcing a $500 billion manufacturing investment in the United States, plus other car companies.

Well, there's a new one this morning. I think it's the Honda Civic is now going to be made in Indiana from this point forward. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yes, I know then that's just a couple of examples we could go on. You talked about the border crossings, how they have dropped dramatically since Trump was elected. We could talk about, the Trudeau resigning because he knew his liberal tax and spend policies in Canada are not going to to work.

They're just not going to, with with the United States. I listed a couple of Democrat friendly ones that the reformation of the crime, like sentencing. Yes. In his first four years, that was a very Democrat thing that he did. You couldn't find respect for that funding for IVF. You can't find respect for that. So right now you don't have to like him.

Don't don't equate liking the guy with respecting the guy. But it is hard, you know what? Here's the thing. I will go back to my analogy that I mentioned a couple of weeks ago. Trump is a lighthouse. You you will not break Trump with your dislike or disrespect, but you will break yourself against it. And the Democrats are going to have to learn this over and over and over again.

If if they just keep down this road, they really are. And, and America supports Trump wide support. His polling numbers remain solid and strong. And I'm sorry, that's hard for them. I did text them back some condolences. He said oh wow. It's going to be a long four years for you. My condolences. And then like most liberals do, they shift the talking point.

It's going to be great for Putin. No thanks to Dawn. Okay. That had nothing to do with the conversation we were having. Okay. But I did scroll back up in their texting history. They are a big supporter of ranked choice voting, which they probably don't want to talk about that now. Yeah. And would probably leads to further concept that they're either Republican in name only or a Democrat.

So yeah, you know, whatever, whatever their thing is, if we wanted to if they shifted the narrative to Putin and my response to that is, and you know, exactly what Putin thinks. Yeah. What what level of expertise to you have that you know, that this is going to be great for Putin. What are you even factoring into that his military forces are decimated.

Decimated? He has no one sending him money. It's going to be a long time for him to build all of that back up. He didn't take over all of Ukraine like he was hoping. Like, okay, I guess you get to be an expert when you self-anointed you're walking around with your little homemade expert crown on your head, acting like you know everything.

All right? Yeah, yeah. Sad with an exclamation mark. All caps. Sad with an exclamation mark. All right, let's go to. Oh, no, we don't have anybody on the phones, but that's okay. We actually have to take another break really quick here, and we'll have our final segment coming up. Also, Giuliana will be on Facebook Live for a few minutes after the show, if you'd like to join us for that.

(208) 542-1079 all right. Minute and a half. Yeah. We're going to have like less than a minute. I think. Whoa, whoa oh yeah. They just gotta go left. Oh yeah. We did search that out didn't we? Yeah. That name is so familiar to me.

Okay. Here. Do do do do.

958 on Newstalk 107, I Neil I sing along with Julie Mason. Look, here's the thing, if you will, very discreetly log into your Facebook and remove the I stand with Ukraine overlay and put in. I listen to Neil and Julie on Newstalk 1079. All will be forgiven. Like it's it's okay. We know. I think we're all prone to uninformed virtue signaling from time to time.

So there's grace here. Like I said Lily I would not throw you into the, you know, the dustbin of history at this point. Just be aware that the longer you have that I stand with Ukraine overlay, it's starting to get old. Yeah. Well, my question is, do you stand with Ukraine or you do you stand with the Ukrainian people?

That's a great. I want a clarification. There is a difference, isn't there? That's the end of the show. Mark VanCamp and Robbins up next to.