12.20.2024 -- NLS -- (Studio 4 Guest: Naomi Vee) Shutdowns, Sports and Media Shift

On this episode with Neal and Julie, the duo tackles a wide range of topics, starting with the implications of a potential government shutdown during the holidays and whether it’s truly a cause for alarm. They discuss the nuances of political strategy, including challenges within the Democratic Party, the influence of key figures like Elon Musk, and debates surrounding media narratives and shield laws in journalism.

The conversation shifts to societal issues, such as the complexities of including transgender athletes in team sports, and they analyze how decisions like these may influence broader coaching and team dynamics. Neal and Julie also touch on controversial decisions in the entertainment industry, highlighting Disney’s changing approach to storytelling and how public backlash may be steering companies away from overtly "woke" narratives.

In a broader political context, they explore the challenges facing both parties—Democrats navigating internal fractures and Republicans evaluating post-election momentum. The duo delves into the topic of pardons, particularly the implications of recent high-profile decisions, and question the extent and appropriateness of executive power in this realm.

Rounding out the discussion, they reflect on the influence of influential figures like George Soros and the future of leadership within his foundation, along with commentary on the media landscape, including ABC News and the shifting priorities of news programming. Neal and Julie balance humor, insight, and candid observations, offering listeners a thought-provoking and wide-ranging episode.

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Transcript

Good morning, East Idaho. It's 807. It's Friday, and that means studio four covers coming up in about a half an hour from right now. Naomi's going to perform for us little Suzy Boggess someday soon. Looking forward to that. So we'll have that. And she's she's playing right herself. Yes. That's Oh I love it when our singers play their own musical instruments.

It's great. Yeah. We're super excited about this. So that's about a half an hour away. We're also on Capitol Hill watch this morning as a vote at some point. And the next little bit is expected on an even skinnier, skinny CR than what they voted on yesterday, which of course lost about, what, 3536 Republican votes. And they need every last one of the Republican votes that they can get.

And so, apparently they've taken out the farm aid and something else. So they might get it closer to, a majority. And they gave it a healthy dose of ozempic. Yes. Now it's skinnier. Took a little liposuction to it. Yeah. And let let's let's hope, that, you know, I don't think government shutdowns are a good way to operate.

At the same time, I don't think they're the end of the world. I used it as a threat. And my understanding is when the government shuts down, they go down to weekend levels of service. So it's like an extended weekend. The critical stuff continues to operate. But it just goes down to sort of a lower level which you know what I'm, I'm fine with that.

I'm okay with it and maybe not indefinitely, but I, I don't think that we should shudder in fear every time we hear the, the, the word of a government, which, quite frankly, we're headed into the holidays. It probably was going to be like that pretty much anyway. Well, and I'm also not going to feel bad that they're not back for their families.

I mean, there's that human thing that I'm like, oh, I'm sure they want to start their Christmas holiday. I get that. Yeah. It's not like you didn't know the deadline was coming, right? That's that is a great point, Julie. I'm not going to feel bad for you. This is like the 16 year old who didn't get their paper done.

It's not like you didn't know it was due. They're the ones that made this mess, right? Right. Yeah. The way they they don't deserve our sympathy. You know, that's a that's a really good point. And I, I wholeheartedly agree with that. There are also simultaneous reports that the white House functioned with a diminished Biden. I don't know why this is even news.

It's all over everywhere. And I think it's in the in the wake of that Wall Street Journal report, we all saw it. We've all experienced it over the last four years, and now they're just reporting it reminds me, I can't remember if it was time magazine or something elsewhere. They had this headline. It's true, men and women are different.

Well, no kidding. And I feel like that's the case with this. Now they add some more texture to it and specificity. But we have known that America has been operating with a diminished commander in chief for for four years. And I mentioned this before, the big shocker to me out of this was that they have people on record now saying that important cabinet meetings, important intelligence meetings were canceled because Biden couldn't operate at enough of a capacity to even sit in the meeting.

And that's that's bothersome to me because just prior to him exiting the race this summer, the cabinet put out all those statements saying he's as sharp as he's ever been. Yeah, really. He's been canceling meetings with you because he's not sharp. No. And everybody knows it. Yeah. It's true. We also, the drones have gone away.

I don't know if the drones themselves have, but the story about the drones has got coverage of. And now we understand they're banning drones over new Jersey and and New York. And I guess my question would be if these were just hobby drones and fully legal drones that were flying, why do they need to ban it again?

It's another layer of confusion, to the messaging that we've seen with these. Yeah, it doesn't match. Yeah. It's we don't know this story. I'm not meaning me. And, you know, the American public hasn't been told the story. No, we know there's something there. Yeah. I did see I have no details, but I did see the headline that the Pentagon has sent these states some anti-drone hardware.

Like, I don't know what it does, but it it it's able to take down drones. So it shows up at the state office and they, you know, slice open the box and they pull, how to attack drones for dummies. Yes. Right. Read this. Yes. That's that's funny. So the Chargers made history last night in football. They had the fair.

It's called the fair kick. Fair catch. Free kick rule. Okay. And so, the clock hit zeros. The bad news is that Denver was called for fair catch interference. Of course, a half cannot end on a defensive penalty or a flag by the kicking team. So the Chargers had the opportunity for a fair catch kick after the penalty moved them up 15 yards, Cameron Dicker was able to line up for a 57 yard kick without any sort of rush.

Not before some confusion on both sidelines. In fact, the ball didn't even need to be snapped. Essentially, it was as much of a practice rep as an actual kick could get. Dicker, of course, nailed it, and it was instead an eight point lead for Denver going into the half. Instead of winning 21 to 10. In ironic fashion, the last successful fair catch kick was way back in 1976 by none other than the San Diego Chargers kicker Ray working.

It was the 27th recorded fair catch kick in NFL history, including the postseason and just the seventh that went through the uprights. The last attempt prior to Thursday was 2019, when Joey Slye missed from 60 yards. Decker's kick is now the longest fair catch kick in NFL history, surpassing the 52 yard boot by Paul Hornung in 1964. So I'm watching the kick.

He had distance on it. He had more than 57 yards like he this is a great kick 65 yards. Yes yes. If they'd won yeah it was it was great. And right down the middle. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. Weird rule. It is a wonky rule year for the NFL. Yeah. Yeah it really has. Yeah. There really has been some what people would call questionable.

Yeah. Questionable calls that they feel like it's all rigged about who knows who knows knows. All right. So we have that we also, what else? Julie. There's a story about the San Jose State, situation. They have had a mass exodus of volleyball players. They entered the transfer portal after the whole trans athlete thing. The university provided a statement to Fox News Digital in which it expressed respect for the recent wave of players who've opted to transfer.

Student athletes have the ability to make decisions about their college athletic careers, and we have the utmost respect for that. The San Francisco Chronicle reported that seven of the team's players have entered the portal. The seven players who are transferring will be leaving the team after a season that included eight forfeited matches, regular police protection, national scrutiny and internal turmoil between players and coaches.

One player even received threats of physical harm amid the controversy, head coach Todd Kress even spoke about how the 2024 season was one of the most difficult of his life. After the team's loss in the conference final to Colorado State. In a statement provided to Fox Digital. What do you make of this? I, I get those girls who are entering this transfer portal.

I can't imagine how hard that was. And I would I would think that they're probably feeling like the team itself is a little tainted. How do you how do you rebuild after this? So they I'm sure they're thinking, let me go somewhere else. I'll just start up with a team that is already up and functioning and things are going well.

Now. Brooke Fleming graduated. That was the male who was playing as a female on the team. Yeah. And so she's going to be gone. So you would think, oh it's going to be fine. Well not if the if the entire team, that's the like the attitude that their work ethic, everything has been decimated. You want to get out of there.

Do you think this episode will make it more likely that coaches around the country will say bringing on a transgender player just brings with it too much complexity? I would hope coaches would look at that, that the the risk reward isn't enough. I mean, the reward is is you're going to have a really tough team, right? Well, you have a man playing on your team.

Yeah, yeah. But the but the risk is these kind of things where you're having to hold news conferences all the time and you have inter, player fighting and you've got weirdness in the locker room because people are changing their clothes and like, yeah. And how do you travel and who sleeps in the room with that girl and no way.

Whatever. Not only that there's lost revenue because teams are forfeiting games. And so a and maybe that might be the win here, even if there's not a win in court or whatever. If you just look at sort of the practical impacts of this and what San Jose State has gone through, well, that's that's poorly worded. What San Jose State put themselves through, that you might have other coaches that are just going to say, you know what?

Even though I, you know, regardless of what you believe about transgender or athlete in athletes in athletics, it's it's just too complicated that that you are really depriving your other players of having a good all around experience. Playing for the team. Yeah, especially I think it it's just not worth it, especially when it's a team sport. You know, you have to learn to function, that you know, where every player is on the, on the volleyball court with you, or let's say it's hockey where there are on the ice with you.

Like you learn to be able to judge what people are doing and where they're at and everything. And if you don't have a cohesive group, you're never going to get fluid at that. And I can't imagine cohesion comes easy when you have a man playing with women. Yeah, I, I would imagine that's that's true. All right. It's coming up on 819 on Newstalk 1079 quick break.

And we'll continue in about 15 minutes. We'll have Naomi with our studio Four. I see a guitar. I see she's in. She's here. Great warming up. And we'll have that for you here in about 15 minutes or so. On Newstalk 179. 823 On Newstalk 179, Neal Larsen, along with Julie Mason and Joe, I just saw this headline.

Did you did we know that David Hogg was running for DNC vice chair? I didn't know that. Yeah. So he, of course he was the kid that, the whole party became an activist. Yes. After the parkland school shooting. Anti second Amendment kid. Now he's a guy again a few years ago, but apparently he said on Tuesday he was attacked for telling Democrats they needed to reach out more to young men before the election.

Hogg, who announced his candidacy for the Democratic National Committee vice chairperson on Monday, told MSNBC that he was primarily running out of frustration over Democrats ignoring and even blasting his insistence on reaching out to young men. The reason why I'm doing this is, frankly, because we need to build a party that tells people what it needs to hear and not what it's.

Consultants are paid just to say whatever people want to hear over and over again, where we continue losing. And he continued, throughout the campaign, there were multiple times where I brought up publicly my concerns about young voters, and I was shut down by consultants and messaged by them saying, you don't know what you're talking about. This is not an issue.

This is dumb of you to say, and a whole lot of other things that I can't tell you on, on TV. So he, and of course, that's the demographic that swung toward Trump. Young male voters went went for Trump. And, it is interesting how you get and not that I agree with David Hogg, the guy I think the guy's an opportunistic little twerp, but I think he's probably right in this situation that the Democrat Party has spent so much of their time hating men and, that they didn't do enough to court young men who are they're struggling.

The economy has been struggling and, you know, to, to to reach out to them, especially when you have the biggest podcaster in the universe, Joe Rogan, doing so well among that group supporting Trump. Yeah, I feel like they and there's a reason why he's doing well, I think that David Hogg is is exactly right on this.

Right. Well, it would be one of the only few, few times that David Hogg is exactly right. I you asked we started this whole story by you saying, did you know this? This is how not relevant the man is he? But this didn't even make you know, there wasn't much talk about it anywhere. Yeah. And I scour news headlines every night.

So if he announced on Monday. Wow. Am right I know I is it just nobody cares anymore like that. Yeah. I just don't think he's relevant. There's just not as much interest in in the Democrat Party and said his comments aside that he was right about set those aside. You're in the middle of totally recreating a Democrat party.

You don't have anyone to run for president. You you're you have so many old senators and congressmen and women that are serving like you are ready to rebrand. You think David Hogg's going to help you do that as the vice chair for DNC? Yeah. Right. Okay. Just keep making your bad decisions. Go right ahead. Yeah. Yeah. No that's that's a really that's a really good point.

Well and I think it underscores the point that we've talked about a lot which is that the Democrat Party, they are just they're a hot mess right now. They're a dumpster fire. And they don't I don't think they know how to regroup at this point. Yeah. It's it's going to be tough for them. I think that once Donald Trump is the president and we you know, they're they of course will be the loyal opposition.

So I think it will coalesce around opposition to Trump. But that's not a terribly good it may be their only strategy, but it's not a very good one. And it's got a it's got a shelf life. It's got an expiration date. Trump is going away. Yeah that's true. Who are you going to who are you going to hate.

Yeah yeah that's a good point there. For the last eight years their identity has been centered on Trump hatred. And he's got well, Donald Trump. Donald Trump has won every election that he need. He'll he'll never have to face another election. Never again. When you think about that. So it doesn't make sense to to go after him in this term the way you did in his first term because you were worried about his reelection.

He's already got a second term. Yeah, he's there is a whole new wave of people coming up, a whole new wave led by JD Vance and Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk and and much deeper than that. I could just keep going. Yeah. You're going to run out of things to hate. Yeah. Yeah. At some point. And is it is it false thinking to think that your campaign should be built around hatred of one person?

Maybe you should start finding things that you love and and advocating for those things, and that can be your message. I think that that that little statement right there is actually what sums up this, this sense of relief that people have felt since the election, because there gets to be some sort of positivity again, some sort of just a little bit of patriotism or a little bit of thinking it's going to get better or a little bit of we actually do get along when the Democrats aren't talking like, yeah, all of that's coming through and people are just it's just a sense, just a, a lightning of what's going on.

Because the last eight years have been focused around hate this man, hate this man, hate everybody, racism, bigotry. Yeah. It gets old. It it well it does get old. And I think at some point you have to know what your people are for, not just what they're against. I. All right. It's 830 Newstalk 1079. We're going to stay on task here.

We'll take our news break when we come back. Naomi performing some Suzy Boggess on today's studio four covers, I should say this week. Studio four covers. We do it every Friday morning and we'll do that just minutes away. And we're back on Newstalk 179. It's coming up on 836 now and we are super excited this morning for our studio four cover.

Joining us in studio is Naomi V Naomi, how are you this morning? Good, good. Well, we we heard about you a few weeks ago and we thought, yeah, we need to have her on. She's she's very good. We saw a YouTube video of you. So tell us a little bit about yourself. So I have been doing music since I was a kid, so I was, I think I was seven, my parents, we still live in Arizona, and so we did folk festivals and stuff like that, and I would tag along.

I didn't do music with them when I was that young. But then as I grew up, I kind of grew a love for music. And so I've been I played guitar since I was, 15 or 16. Yeah, but I've been singing since I was seven, so it's just been a. So you're a BYU II student? Yes. Is that right?

You also teach guitar at the Idaho Falls Music Academy? Yes. And you also have an online music presence as well. Naomi v music V correct? Yes, yes. Okay. So if you search on YouTube and Instagram, you'll find, Naomi's stuff there. And you do you do, different private performances around, don't you? Yes. Yeah. I've done a few things down in Utah.

There's a little, art gallery music thing down in Huntsville. And so I performed there a few weeks ago doing a, a songwriters round, which was a lot of fun. Oh that's cool. Yeah. That's good. You do, even though this is a cover today. And we'll talk about that in just a moment. You do write a lot of your own music, correct I do, yes.

Yeah. Do you enjoy that? Is that your kind of. Yes, I would say I probably it's my favorite part about music is that creative process. But I mean I love singing covers and stuff, but yeah, it's I love the writing part. Well, I know Julie, you can weigh in here too. The, the song that we watched you sing was it was really breathtaking.

It was very good. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Well, you're performing Suzy Boggess today. Tell us what song you're going to sing. It's, someday soon. Okay. You ready? Yes. All right, take it away. Hey, there's a young man that I know whose age is 21. Comes from down in southern Colorado, just out of the service. He's looking for his fun someday.

Soon going with him someday soon. My parents cannot stand him cause he rides the rodeo before the season. He will leave me cryin. I would follow him right down the roughest road I know. Someday soon I'm going with him. Someday soon. And when he comes to call my boy ain't got a good word. Say guess his. Cause he's just as wild in his younger days.

So blue. You blue, northern blue. My love to me. He's riding in tonight from California. Oh, he loves that old. The rodeo as much as he loves me. Someday soon I'm going with him. Someday soon.

When he comes to call my boy. Ain't got a good word to say. I guess it's cause he's just as wild. Had his younger days. So blue. You old blue, northern and blue. My love to me. He's riding in tonight from California. Oh, he loves that old rodeo as much as he loves me someday. You going with him?

Someday soon. Someday soon. I'm going with him. Someday soon. Too soon. Naomi. V, that was beautiful. Naomi. Thank you. You did a wonderful job. And I love watching our text line. When our performers perform. And you got a lot of fans, so. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. All right. You can find her on YouTube and Instagram. Just search Naomi v music and that's v e.

We'll be back at 841 on Newstalk 1079. Hey, thank you so much. Yeah. Okay. And, can you hear us now? Facebook. Where? Okay. Everything's on. This was over on the window. So. So it's not. It's not Randy. It's not Randy. Yeah. Okay. Big, big, big apologies for that. So when we got to the studio this morning, I.

My computer was off. There were things missing? Yeah. We don't know who had been in the studio. I didn't check the audio settings. I just opened everything up. It sounds like it's from the webcam, not the microphone. It's. I, I don't know who touched it. I have no idea. That's frustrating. All right, hold it. 845 now on Newstalk 179, it's Neal Larson along with Julie Mason.

Big thanks again to Naomi V. Beautiful performance of that song by Suzy Boggess. She's got the voice of an angel, Julie. She's beautiful song and as sweet as an angel too. She's a very sweet girl. So it matches. Yeah. It's wonderful. Yeah. So, Okay. If you'd like to reach us this morning, the number to call is 285421079.

We're watching, Congress this morning. Do you think they'll have the vote by the time the show's over? No. No, I, I think if there was, if they had settled some things. I don't think this comes down to what's on the paper. I think this comes down to who's going to vote for what? Yeah, I think that's where we're at.

All right. They're recalling some bags of Lay's potato chips. Yeah, they may contain what? What? That wasn't just a swerve. That was a burp. Stop. Okay. Left. Like it's it's the whole. I'm just saying. Look, I'm keeping up. I'm okay. I turned left with you. Let's talk about Lay's potato chips. Well. I throw some curveballs at me.

What's your, 13 ounce bags of Lay's potato chips? They might contain undeclared milk. Oh, now, I don't know why they would. Why do they even have milk in them? I don't know, someone with an allergy or severe sensitivity to milk could have a dangerous reaction if they eat these chips. The company, and they should discard the product.

The company said, I think, so, the chips were distributed to stores and online distributors in Oregon and Washington, and they would have been available to consumers starting in early November. No other Lay's products are affected. Is this the shortest CNN story in history? I think it is. It's like six sentences. Yeah, it it is. But, it goes back to how did milk make it into a bag of Lay's potato chips?

I don't know, I don't know this. Whoever wrote this CNN piece is like it's the 20th of December, I'm only giving this much effort. And they wrote six sentences and publish. Yeah, I know it's I think they must have just copied and pasted. Yeah. A press release. So yeah, you have that, What else? Julie, I won't throw you a curveball.

You throw it something at me. Now, I don't know what we. What else have we not talked about? I do you feel like I'll ask you this question? Yeah. There was a lot of chatter on last night that Elon is actually the one in charge and a lot of but and pushing or trying to push the buttons of Donald Trump like you're not as big as you thought you were.

Elon's bigger than you. Like. That was. That was kind of the flavor that was going on on X last night. Yeah. Do you think this bothers Donald Trump? No. No, I don't think it bothers him at all. I, I think that he kind of laughs at it because it's such an an obvious tactic. They want to get rid of Elon's access to Trump.

That's what they want. They want to destroy the relationship that the two have. And and so this is the way you do it. You you go after his ego. You make him feel like he's lesser than but I don't I don't think it'll work. I, I because Donald Trump won the election. He can he can surround himself with whoever he wants.

And and furthermore, it makes sense to have Elon Musk have significant influence in, in his administration. Right. Well, the man is the most probably powerful and rich man in the world because with money comes power. Yeah, this is not new. This is not new to Elon Musk. This is reality. I also felt like it was a bunch of people who refused to look in the mirror and see what they do, because what's the difference between Elon Musk flexing his muscles and George Soros flexing his muscles?

For the Democrats, there is no difference. There's no difference yet. No Elon Musk is this villain and the guy in the black hat. And what a horrible man. And you got George Soros over here with all of his money installing these dirty ideas across the United States. Yeah, that was fine. Don't look at what we're doing over here.

Oh, no, George Soros doesn't have that much influence. Absolutely. He did. Yeah. Power equals money. Well, yes. Or money equals power either way. Yeah. Either way. And time equals money. So therefore power equals time. It does actually if you're going to get mad man you do because you get to do whatever you want to do. That's that's true too.

So on on that note, one of the things that George Soros has done is he's he's trying to buy up radio stations. Now. I think he was trying I don't know if he's still going to do that or not. I almost feel like maybe he's passing the baton Baton to his kid. Alex. Right. And it appears that Alex Soros is going to be the future of the Soros, whatever, whatever the Soros thing is, that Alex is going to carry the baton because George is what, like around 90 now he's old, so he's he's not going to be around a lot longer.

But how is it different if you want to buy up radio stations and you are this far left, globally wealthy, influential person, how is that any different than Elon Musk owning X? It's actually different in that Elon is not trying to get a particular ideology out there. He just wants the First Amendment to be honored. He and and X is a place where people aren't silenced anymore.

And censorship is one of the most, favored tools of the left. They can't do it anymore because Elon now owns X and he lets people talk and they hate it. Yeah. The difference between Alex Slash, George Soros and Elon Musk is Elon Musk actually gifted his power to the people. Yes via X he said go ahead, do your thing.

Speak. You know this is a platform and we're going to open it back up and it should be used by the people. Yeah, okay. That's different than what Alex and George Soros have been doing. They're giving they're taking power away from the people. Yeah. They're actually trying to install people into positions that truly damage the various communities where those people get installed that's harming the people.

So yes, they're both using power. They're both using money, they're both using their resources. One is allowing the people to make decisions, the other is damaging the people. Yeah, well, yeah, that that's that's true. And I also find it one thing I've noticed, you probably notice the same thing to a Julie, but when the left is able to create their own complex of misinformation, and that's what Twitter used to be, that stifle the Hunter Biden laptop story, things like that.

When you take that away from them, they call that misinformation. When they can't put out their own misinformation, then that's misinformation. Like their their whole brain is is is broken on this issue. Yeah it is. Well they're redefining words and I think it becomes a little more frantic. I don't think it absolutely becomes more frantic when they start to lose the power.

And that's the frantic that we're seeing the people who are freaking out about Elon Musk, the people who are trying to push a narrative that he's the actual president and not Trump. And by the way, neither one of them are our dementia ridden president is a wall right now. Yeah, he's still the president for one more month. One more month from today is when he will finally release that position.

And he's currently a wall. Yeah. So maybe look at that. The fact that your president, the one with the D behind his name, is missing and you're trying to Villainize Musk, Ramaswamy Trump, G, JD Vance, whomever you can point out. Yeah. All these things they say they hate, they've used as tools in their favor. Yeah it's it's fascinating.

Cool. I have a question for you. Okay. East Idaho News recently they were forced to testify in court on a defamation case. And Nate Sunderland of State of News wrote a piece that I thought was really kind of fascinating, where also, I want to say well written. Yeah. It was Nate did a great job on that piece.

Yeah. So basically he's saying that, he, he never wanted to ever be forced to testify in this, that the relationship that reporters and journalists have with their sources is one of confidentiality. And, and they should never be forced to testify in that. But Idaho lacks what is called a shield law. Basically. Your conversation if you're a journalist or if you're a source, even though the relationship might be one that yeah, we'll keep it confidential.

It can be subpoenaed, it can be used in court. And they actually played the conversation between the reporter and the source in court, which they felt was, not a it was a violation, you know, because you you've given that that affirmation, to them, what are your thoughts on this? Do you think we should have a shield law in Idaho?

Well, I'm okay with the shield law in Idaho because the justice system should be, robust enough and strong enough to to handle not being able to subpoena the conversation that happens between a journalist and possibly a victim or a witness or whatever. I would say this is one of the reasons I thought the piece was so well-written is because it really outlined step by step by step, how this process worked.

And it was a lengthy piece, so you had to commit to read it. It was worth reading. I don't know if East Idaho News could have handled it better than they did. When it came time that they were subpoenaed, what they did is they actually turned over the interview to the person that they did the interview with.

Yeah. And they said, if you want to release it now, you have the option. Yeah. And that's how it eventually ended up, right. In the court case. I felt like that was a great way to put it into the hands of the person that it was going to affect the most, instead of the what we see on a regular basis with the mainstream media, them controlling narratives, them directing things, them, them like being the ultimate decision maker.

They they removed themselves from that position and I congratulate them for that. Yeah. Yeah, I yeah, I do too. And I think given this set of circumstance forces, that was a good a good reaction, the good news for that. But if the person receiving it said no, I'm not going to release that to them, etc., and who still could have been the subject of a subpoena.

So it didn't really solve the problem. It just happened to turn out okay in this particular case. Yes. And so, when I when I look at this, I feel like they're there. At the very least, there should be shield laws in place for any civil case like, you can't subpoena a privileged conversation in a civil case when you get into the criminal realm.

I don't I don't like them being able to subpoena that. But there may be let's say you had someone who confessed to murder to a journalist. Are you gonna are you going to sacrifice justice? Then and again, I'm not arguing against a shield law in this case. It's just that if the stakes get really high, then you start to wonder about that.

But certainly in any civil case, I believe that that that should just that out of that, out of pass tomorrow, you know it. And so I do hope the legislature will take a look at this because I, I feel like in, in the interest of doing good journalism, you want to you want to make sure that your conversations with your sources are not going to come back to haunt them, like it's going to have a chilling effect if you don't have some kind of a shield line.

It would also be interesting to see how the various shield laws are written in the States that do have them, because you could also, craft a shield law that actually kind of took some power away from the journalist as well. So that you didn't have these media outlets directing the way a trial would go. So, as I've always said, don't reinvent the wheel if the wheel is working really well somewhere.

Yeah. If there are shield laws in place and it is functioning well, look at it and implement it. Don't repeat mistakes and don't try to be super superhero and invent something. All right. It's, 859 now on Newstalk one on seven nine hour two coming up. And welcome back. Our two underway. If you'd like to join us on the program, the number is (208) 542-1079.

That is the fall River propane call and text line. And, happy to have you with us today. As we round out this final week before Christmas week, which we can tell you, our plan this next week is going to be very I won't say laid back, but laid back will be on Monday. Yes. And then Tuesday I think we have.

Do we as Christmas Eve a holiday. Yeah. They were talking about that in the meeting yesterday. And yes it is. Okay. So we'll have national programing on Christmas Eve and also on Christmas. And then we have Thursday and Friday of next week. So yeah, maybe maybe an abbreviated show on those mornings. Yeah we'll see Thursday and Friday.

So we'll, we'll see how that goes. So yeah, you get Neal on cold medicine this. That's how that works. Today. So, Cassidy Hutchison is, in the news again. And she's caught in a new vicious lie where she, the star witness was a serial liar, and they knew this. What does that say about these committee members?

January 6th select committee star witness Cassidy Hutchinson is caught in an ongoing war with the truth. Unfortunately for Cassidy, she committed these lies while under oath, and therefore, she will likely face legal consequences for her actions. On Thursday, Ben Williamson, who previously worked with Cassidy Hutchinson, described a phone call he received from Cassidy before her testimony before Congress.

She claimed that she was nervous that her old Republican colleagues, including Mark Meadows, would be mad at her for testifying before the committee. Ben Williamson assured her they would not be and understood the situation she was in. Months later, Cassidy Hutchinson lied to the committee about the phone call. It appears it was a setup and Ben Williamson was the victim.

Okay, man, this girl just lied all over the place, didn't she? Yes she did. And I think she's going to be in hot water, as she should be for perjury. And you know what? Whatever the case may be, I would like to know. And this is what I think. Okay, let me ask you this question. I was listening, I think it was to Bongino who said, If Biden pardons Liz Cheney, then by law, the Department of Justice cannot even investigate simply because there is no there would be no outcome to this.

There's no reason to put forward the resources to investigate because you can't prosecute, right? However, if if, unless you know what I guess Biden could pardon Cassidy Hutchinson too. But it'll be interesting to see if he does that. But let's say he doesn't in the course of investigating Cassidy Hutchinson, we will find out many of the sins of Liz Cheney and, and whatever she did to get Cassidy Hutchinson to give that completely, literally unbelievable story about Donald Trump attacking the driver of the beast and that all of that, it, even if if Liz Cheney is pardoned, we may still find out what happened on that day.

Yeah, that's an interesting, connection you've made there between Liz Cheney and Cassidy, because yesterday we were interviewing Senator Rish, and when asked the question about pardons and clemens's, he expected many more to come forward, despite Biden having done kind of a record number. It's not a record breaking number, but he's got one of the highest amounts. And, a lot of those have to do with, like low level drug crimes and those people were pardoned for those low level drug crimes.

So I'm not like, like doing that dun dun dun music behind him pardoning so many people because there is a slide explanation to it. However, Senator Risch did say that he expects more pardons to occur or more clemency to occur. And if that does happen, it would make sense that if he pardons Liz Cheney, he's got to he's got to input like it's a connected dot.

You can't pardon one and not the other because Cassidy Hutchinson is going to just like spill everything. Yes is what will happen because she will have nothing to lose at that point. Right. So I would agree with you. I think they will pardon whoever knows the secrets. Everybody will get a pardon in that case. But one of the things that Senator Risch said that I thought was pretty interesting was that we're in new territory here.

This whole idea of pardoning people for things they may have done is that even part of the presidential like, that he did that with, with, his son Hunter. But can you do that. Doesn't it have to be a known crime? I mean my mind, I would think that it would have to be a known crime.

Yeah. Well and maybe, maybe Hunter was serving multiple purposes there. Put it forward basically. Pardon him for everything unknown and known crimes and just kind of watch and see what happens with it. Because people are already going to be outraged that he lied and said he wasn't going to pardon his son. And then he did pardon his son.

Yeah, but maybe there was a sublayer there where he was throwing in that pardon for anything that has been known or is yet to be known. And he was just kind of testing the waters to see how much did people push back against that. Yeah, yeah, that's true. And I do think if he extends that to other pardons, like with January 6th, I would imagine there's going to be a court challenge to that, that, that, that the pardon power can only extend to known crimes.

Right. So or maybe likely crime I don't know I don't know that. Yeah. Anyway, yeah. We're, I feel like. Well, you know what, Julie? I don't know what to trust anymore, because I, I would think that the new Republican Congress or House would get to the bottom of this. They've been in charge for two years. I still don't feel like we've gotten to the bottom of it.

Even though you have Republicans in charge of all the committees, we still don't have the answer as to what happened to all of the records with the J6 committee. Where are those answers? Do you want my theory behind this? Yeah, I think that lawmakers care far more about their pocketbook and they're pretty gutless in general. I yeah, I'm not saying all lawmakers, but especially DC lawmakers, carry care far more about their portfolio or in their checkbook.

And then they're they're kind of gutless. And they weren't going to push these boundaries and push back against Democrats because they weren't sure how this election was going to turn out. And I think that's why you've seen this flurry of activity post November 5th, because now all of a sudden, oh yeah, we're tough guys again. We've got the executive branch back.

Well, they were gutless before because they didn't know what their future looked like. So they weren't going to. Yeah, they weren't going to overreact or step out of line or anything like that because they don't want to hurt themselves. Right. Yeah. Well, but I mean, I agree with you. I think that that's a very likely scenario. But I, I also feel like one election doesn't infuse you with actual courage either.

Oh, no. This is all fake. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's you know, bravado is what they're bringing forward now. Yeah. Yeah I, I think so too. And it's a lot of talk. I do think if we actually get doge done where we get rid of the Department of Education, we cut back, you know, we fire all these federal workers and we do all of that.

It's not going to be because the Republican Party is a willing partner in it. It is going to be a tough battle. They want to protect the swamp as much as anybody else because they like the set up they've got. You show up, you make a middle class income for Washington DC, and if you play your cards right after 2 or 3 terms, they're you can walk out of there is a multi-billion multimillionaire.

You can set yourself up really well financially if you play your cards right. But the one thing you can't do is disrupt the flow of cash going in and out of Washington DC that you have to protect that at all costs, or else you don't get to play the game. Right? Right. And I if you look at the ones who do leave and don't leave with mass wealth, Rhonda DeSantis is a great example of this.

He did not leave with that wealth. Yeah, well, that's because he had integrity and he and he wanted to be a disruptor. And he went, get me out of here. I'm going to go be governor of Florida, and I'm actually going to get some stuff done. Yeah. Which he has. I mean, all that state has done is become better to live in and deeper red.

Yes. Isn't that what we want every state to be? Well, yeah. You would think so that that that would be that would be preferable. I should also also add, I think Raul Labrador falls in that. Yeah. I would agree with that too. He goes back, he serves what, three terms I think. And then, he, he came back home.

He didn't come home super ultra rich. Yeah. You know, because he he's like, I just he just don't like DC. Yeah. She seems a little dissatisfied to me. It wasn't that enriching of the time frame of his life. Yeah. To serve there. Yeah. So yeah I also think and this goes back a lot of years. But Butch Otter kind of did the same thing.

Now he married into the Simplot family. So you're instantly rich at that point. But he didn't need the money. But I think he got disaffected by Washington and served, what was it? Two terms, maybe. And then he came home, and I think he get back there, and it just is not what it's cracked up to be.

Well, not everybody wants to sell their soul. Yeah, and that's why I said it's not all politicians. Not everybody wants to sell their soul. But it's very enticing. Yeah. And I think that people do go back there with the concept of I'm not going to sell my soul. And then it's just like this buffet and you can't say no to it.

Yeah. It is, it's very, very intoxicating. All right. 918 Newstalk 1079 quick break. We'll come back after this and, continue on the program. There we go.

Same night is. I want see somebody 11 to fire.

922 on Newstalk 179, Neal Larson, Julie Mason. And you. If you'd like to reach us on the fall River propane, call and text line that number. (208) 542-1079 Julie, I love that idea. It's sort of kind of laid back. We're waiting on this, the vote on the CR. But what do you think is going to happen in 2025.

I don't know, I, we were watching the TVs during the break and, and there was a channel that was actually doing their predictions. They were saying things like Travis and Travis, Kelsey and Taylor Swift will break up. I think that's a given. So that's what happens in it given year that Taylor Swift breaks up with somebody.

Yeah, this has actually been a pretty long relationship for. So we'll see. She's had others that were longer. But so they were making predictions like that. If I was going to do something that was more, like government related or politics related, I actually believe the rumors that Kamala Harris is going to do like a next, Netflix documentary or special and get paid millions for it.

I 100% believe that rumor is true. I think we're going to see that in about a year. They're they'll they'll try to planet it, based upon the people who want to resurrect her career. And maybe it's so she can run for governor of California, or maybe it's so she can run again for president. I don't know which one, but I think that one's definitely going to come true.

So my my question and I, I agree with you. And I don't I have a lot of thoughts about it. But when I look at Kamala Harris I think is she popular enough? Is there enough demand for the Kamala Harris brand that it's worth it to Netflix to do a documentary, whatever they're going to do and book a memoir, like who's going to read that?

She was largely she's she's a failed candidate, and she's never been highly sought after or highly liked, like, what is so much of her quote unquote success has just been styrofoam like, I don't yeah, I would say if you're thinking a typical business model, like if you or I were going to start a business, we would do a cost analysis of that and would it be worth it?

I don't think Netflix cares. I think that, yeah. You know, I think they make bad business decisions all the time. Look at ESPN. ESPN would be completely bankrupt right now if it didn't have parent company Disney and ABC. It would be bankrupt. And true. And so I think these large companies make decisions based upon their emotions rather than, you know, a cost analysis.

They're willing to throw money away. Absolutely. I, I really can't imagine, like we we've talked a lot about Disney in in recent years, Julie, about how they keep making these stupid woke versions of of different stories, or they'll take an existing franchise and start putting DIY strains in it. It always goes south for them. And, you know, people show up to watch it.

The The Light Year series, the follow up that they did to Toy Story, or was that the prequel? Like, I can't remember what exactly that was. I think it was the back story and nobody showed up to do it because they had they had woke a fight. That's I don't remember how they woke a fight. It. Disney might be starting to wake up a little bit because they eliminated the transgender storyline in that new series, starting in February, but I feel like, I think you're exactly right.

I think that they'll make decisions that are contrary to profit, contrary to the bottom line, simply because it gets them something else, which is we need to be enlightened or woke or whatever. I just for me, I don't, I don't see when I look at Kamala Harris, I don't feel like they need to do that. Like I she's like, I'll make a prediction right now.

If she writes a memoir, it will be a disaster. People will not want to read it. Yeah, well, and it's got to be filled with lies, because if you're actually going to tell the truth, you'd probably be embarrassed about your rise to the vice presidential, position and the failed presidential run. You're going to be embarrassed about these things.

Yeah. That's true. This is not going to be an honest memoir. Yeah. What do you think about this discussion is is part. Well, actually, I just had a thought about that because they are saying that she wants to make a comeback, that she wants to run for president in 2028. And part of me is like, bring it on.

Like she she is a failed candidate. Nobody wants her. And that's who you want to run against. But, are they just saying that to kind of keep her brand alive? Like if, if she quit and she said, I'm never going to do that again, then nobody would care anymore. But if she could possibly, maybe by some slim chance be the future of the Democrat Party, that kind of keeps the buzz going around her, around the Kamala Harris.

Possibly. It's the Ivy that's hanging that's got the slow drip on it, that's keeping her just hydrated enough. Yes, that then you can infuse it with a Netflix, you know, or, special or a book or whatever. Maybe, maybe I don't think it's going to work if the if I was taking a completely objective stance and the Democrat Party said, Julie, what do you think we should do?

I would say scrap everybody. You haven't start over. You need some new life. Stop trying to resurrect these. These some of them too old, some of them too damaged. Stop trying to resurrect those people and start anew. I mean, I, even Donald Trump put out a true social about AOC and how the the Democrat party stabbed her in the back.

Yeah. Think she was the new. She was the one who had some life and they've they've gone and stabbed her in the back like find a moderate. You had it in Tulsi Gabbard. You you squandered that opportunity. Find another Tulsi Gabbard someone like her, a moderate Democrat, and start over. So if we go back to the Democrat Party, what they used to be, I didn't agree with them, but they were a rational party.

At least they just saw things a little different way. They were in favor of unions. They were in favor of more government handouts, I think, but they weren't completely off base. On woke issues, I feel like this far left ideology hijacked the Democrat Party, and it was so effective that you're more traditional Democrats. If they wanted to stay and be relevant, they had to go along with it.

Yeah, but they don't believe it. Yeah. So it and you're kind of referencing that you need to get back to the Tulsi Gabbard and the Joe Manchins and the, you know, people like that. But I feel like as long as the terrorists have the plane hijacked, they're not going to give it back up. Yeah. There's not a seat for the Tulsi Gabbard or the Joe Manchin on that plane.

Like you, because you're not going to go along with the terrorists plan. Right? Right. And so I, I think they're kind of screwed for a while because, if if November 5th was anything it it was a verdict by America. We don't want what you're putting forward. These are these are absurd proposals. And look at all the flip flopping Kamala had to do to, to even give her a fighting chance at, at winning the presidency, she had to abandon so many of the things that she had said to try to win the primary in 2020.

And that's really what what kind of one of the things that I think skewered her chances? Yeah, we've mentioned this before. She ran a she ran a campaign that had two, two winning topics for her abortion and Donald Trump hatred. Those were her only two unifying concepts. Yeah, it obviously wasn't enough. And guess what? One of those is going away.

Yeah, you will not win an election again unless you readdress issues that involve all Americans. Yeah. And that that is true. And when you're right, they abandon too much. All right. It's 932 on Newstalk 1079. Quick break. We'll come back after this.

All right. At 938 on Newstalk 107, Julie read that Dick Durbin tweet again. Okay, so Neal and I don't love the news cycle right now because we're in this big pause with the CR and I. I'm tired of talking about Kamala Harris and Joe Biden and his lack of mental clarity. So I was perusing X during the break.

And, this tweet says Bill gates is lobbying the Senate night and day to prevent the Epstein Island list from being released. And then Dick Durbin comes out and says he's not going to release the names on that list. And then the tweet follows up with, FYI, Bill gates met with Dick Durbin last week. So is that why Dick Durbin is now speaking out?

Because Bill gates has that much influence and is going to stop it. Okay. Can I just say tell us you're on the Epstein list without telling us you're on the Epstein list, right? Or am I wrong? Sure feels like that. It why? Why would Bill gates care if the Epstein list gets released or not unless he's on it?

I don't know. I don't know why you'd care, but that sure feels a little shady. So a little bit. And it's time that list needs to be released. It's time. So what has Durbin addressed this publicly? Not that I have seen. I'd have to do a dive. I'd have to look, but not that I have seen, other than he probably put out a memo or a tweet or something saying, I'm not going to be in support of that list.

Getting out all of this, by the way, is on the heels of Cash Patel most likely becoming the FBI director. And that's why everyone scared to death because Kash Patel has committed. He will release those names. Okay, so I guess my question is, why would you be publicly again? Is there a legitimate reason why you would be against releasing the Epstein list?

A legitimate reason, no. But the reason to publicly do it, I think, is to to hopefully garner support on your team. And enough people will push back against Kash Patel that you'll stop him from doing it. I don't know, Kash Patel, but his history sure seems like he doesn't even care. He is going to do whatever he wants to do.

However, will this keep him from getting approved by this? Yeah. Will the Senate block it? Possibly. And maybe that's the reason Dick Durbin is coming out and saying, hey, let's make a little coalition here. Let's get this working. Yeah. Is Durbin on the list? Maybe. I mean, sometimes I feel like we'd be better off counting who's not on the list because there's that many people on the list.

Yeah, it makes you wonder. Makes you wonder who's on it. That's true. All right. 205421079 Neal Larsen along with Julie Mason. So, so Kia has been removed from the donor page of a program distributing LGBTQ themed books to kids following a Daily Caller News Foundation report on the company's ties to the nonprofit, the DC, NF exclusively reported Wednesday that Kia was prominently displayed as a co-sponsor of the Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network's Rainbow Library, a nonprofit initiative that provides participate ING teachers with children's books pushing transgenderism and homosexuality onto kids as young as five.

Kia has since been removed from the Rainbow Library's sponsor page. Kia did not respond to the request for comment on the removal, and it's unclear whether the company requested to be erased from the web page. A spokesperson for Kia denied in a statement Tuesday that the car maker sponsored Rainbow Library in 2023 or 24, but did not respond to further inquiries about why it was listed as a sponsor on the group's website.

Okay, can we just see the shift that has been happening two years ago, Kia would have celebrated whether they accidentally ended up on the list or not. You know, they're kind of claiming that it's an accident here, but whether they were on the list, accidental or on the list purposely, they would have been like, oh yeah, sure. Well, we didn't mean to be on that list, but this is a great cause and bla there has been a shift.

The tide has turned. Now it's not a tidal wave, but it is. It is changing. I sent you a piece last night about Idaho. A Fox News ran a story about Idaho and the cutting of the D-I programs that happened over Thanksgiving. Quietly. Yes. Like that. Those D-I programs went away. And of course, Fox News was celebrating Idaho and what they were doing.

But that's the tide that is that is turning. That's the shift. It is no longer this celebratory thing to be involved in D-I. And if you still are, you're kind of hiding yourself. Well, yeah, I, I it feels like the pendulum is moving back toward more rational, direction. That story. We didn't really talk too much about that Idaho story, but, they voted to the Idaho State Board of Education, voted to approve a measure that bans D-I initiatives at all public universities in the state.

The resolution forbids universities from establishing D-I offices, basing student resource centers on D-I ideology, or using personal identity characteristics. Characteristics like race, color, sex, sexual orientation, national origin, religion, or gender identity over individual merit in hiring and admissions decisions. And In a statement, Doctor Linda Clark, the board president, said, I believe our actions as a board today are a strong signal to all Idaho students that our institutions are prepared to meet whatever needs they have when they walk through the door.

I am looking forward to seeing our universities implement these resolutions while we continue working on the issue as a board. Okay, so they're they're not I mean, you can see how they're still soft pedaling at a little bit. And that's what I mean when I say it's not a tidal wave, but we'll, we'll we'll take what they've, what's been given and we're going to keep pushing and turn it into a tidal wave.

And the other way that they soft pedaled it, like I said, in Idaho, it all happened over the Thanksgiving break when their students, most students, weren't on campus at Boise State. They just quietly closed those offices. Did they do it deliberately, do you think during the Thanksgiving? Absolutely believe that was deliberate. Just quietly get it passed when fewer people are paying attention?

Which animal? In a way, I'll take it because they did it, but it feels a little cowardly to do it like that. Yeah, because they know they're going to get blowback from the the woke crowd. Of course they are. I'm sure they had plenty of students. And by plenty I mean probably 30 or 40 complaints. And they act like that's the overwhelming majority of the student body.

I don't know how what the student body total is at BSU, but it's nothing like 30 is nothing. So let those 30 people complain and move forward. Yeah, yeah, I, I would agree. I also noticed that the governor was kind of touting this on social media. You did, which goes back to the the discussion that we were having earlier this week, Julie, about how I believe Brad Little is going to run for governor again.

There's been some, highlighting and some increased, social media spotlighting of things that are considered wins in Idaho on, Governor Little's Twitter page, like news articles, all of that. And so you you have to go, okay, why the difference? Why the change? And for the if you're going to just pick Occam's Razor here, it's that he's running again.

Yeah. That's why you change it. That's why you start doing it. Yeah. And and he's certainly been a lot more proactive with, with statements like this than we've seen in the past. So so yeah, it is kind of kind of fascinating to watch. Do you think he exerted influence on the state Board of Education to make this happen?

I haven't thought about that angle. Maybe or maybe the State Board of Education is finally just reading the room. Yeah. And saying parents do not want this. We you've got to remember what Boise State did amongst all of these meetings, which was they they forfeited a game with San Jose State. Yeah. Because they were not going to play against a male volleyball player.

So if if one of your sports programs is willing to be that brave and do that and you had parents who are backing those athletes, this isn't the first time they felt pressure from parents. Yeah. And that's just on the university level. I'm sure they're hearing it in different forms on the, you know, K through 12 level. Well, and I would say that it's probably great PR for your universities as well.

And maybe the campus people don't like it because they tend to be kind of woke. But if you're a middle class parent out there, you want to send your kid to college. You don't want to send them into, a DEA infested indoctrination center, right? You want them to go to a more rational place. And I think this is probably kind of some low hanging fruit that they could say, yeah, this is what we stand for here.

And kind of cleaning it up a little bit of B.S., which I'm, I if that's what they did. And then, then kudos for them. But it would be interesting to see what was the impetus for this. How did this how did this come about that they proact Tively and a DEA with this vote from the state board? Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

I'm glad it's happening. I wish it was a little more rapid the way that it was happening, but we'll take it and we'll just keep leaning in. Does this measure prevent them from having privately funded DEA stuff? I would doubt that. I would think that there is probably that capability, but I think that probably the yeah, I mean, I would have to ask the, the education board, but I would say primarily they're cutting off the funding.

There will be not there will not be state dollars that will go to pay for these positions or the funding of these groups. So if George Soros wanted to come along, yes, I think that that could probably happen. I got you all right. 948 Newstalk 10792085421079. That's the number. If you'd like to reach us on the fall River propane Collin Text Line, we'll take a break and be back and we'll wrap it up when we return right here on Newstalk 1079.

953 On Newstalk 179, Neal Larson along with Julie Mason. Do you guys want to end the year with a bang? Like really go out big, celebrate New Years? Well, I have an idea for you. Visit Timberline Home because you're going the whole year. You weren't going to save like this before. It is an amazing sale end of the year clearance event going on at Timberline Home, located at 711 East Anderson.

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And that's what led to this $15 million settlement. And, but apparently he ignored and defied what the executive producer was saying. Do not use the word rape. And, he did it anyway. And that, of course, led to the lawsuit and the settlement and everything else. I just thought it was interesting. There's a lot of rumor that he's going to get canned from there as well.

Think it's coming? Since he is, of course, George Stephanopoulos. We say canned, but he would walk. It'd be a polite walk away. Yeah. You'd be like, you probably ought to step down gracefully. We'll have a little ten minute tribute to you and your time at ABC news, but you need to go to your next gig. There's going to be a pretty big turnover of journalists.

I think in the next few months you might lose George Stephanopoulos. We, saw Neil Cavuto not re-up his contract at Fox News. Yeah. What was that about there? I tried to do a little bit of looking into that yesterday. All I could find out of that is that he just wasn't satisfied with the contract that was offered to him.

And after 28 years, he's ready to move on. I don't know how Joy Reid survives over the next few. Yeah. Mika and Joe are probably in trouble. You can't do the things they did and and be pulling the audience. They're pulling and have it stay. I think we're going to see some changes. The view might also be in a shakeup.

That's that's true. I, I can see ABC news going just saying to The view you need to split off and syndicate on your own. You're not going to be an ABC news product anymore. So I can see that, happening because apparently they do get okay ratings. So yeah, I'm not surprised they get okay ratings and people watch just to be infuriated.

That happens. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm not surprised they've been able to maintain their ratings. I just don't know how you call them a news program. I don't know how it stays under ABC news. Yeah, I don't know. Well, let's, talk here in the last minute and a half, Julie, about our friends over at Grand Peak's Prime Meats.

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So yeah. Again GG primates.com. Okay. Julie and I we will be back on Monday. Will be here Monday. Yes, we will be here doing a full show on Monday morning. And, then we'll take Christmas Eve and Christmas off, and then we'll see how it goes. Yeah, see how it feels. But, watch for that vote in the House today.

Of course. Markley van Kampen Robins is coming up next. Right here on this Friday on Newstalk 179. And we'll see all of you on the other side on Monday.