10.17.2024 -- NLS -- Kamala’s Tough Interview and Idaho’s Ranked Choice Voting Controversy

On this episode of the Neal Larson Show, Neal and Julie dive into a variety of hot-button political issues, focusing on Kamala Harris' recent interview with Brett Baier on Fox News. They both feel the interview was disastrous for Harris, but anticipate that media outlets will attempt to downplay its impact. Neal also criticizes the lack of transparency surrounding ranked choice voting in Idaho's Proposition 1. He argues that its proponents, like Reclaim Idaho, are pushing for open primaries while hiding the ranked choice voting component, which he believes will lead to unfavorable electoral outcomes similar to those seen in Alaska.

Julie chimes in with her own skepticism about ranked choice voting, describing how it's often presented as a secondary feature to open primaries and how many voters are unaware of its full implications. They discuss how this system can lead to unexpected results, as it did in past elections, and express concerns about the confusion it may cause among Idaho voters. The show touches on the broader national landscape, with some reflections on how issues like ranked choice voting and Kamala Harris' performance affect voters’ decisions.

Callers also share their opinions, with some worried about how these dynamics could play out at the ballot box.

Transcript

And, you know, I just.

When she did this view interview, they said, well, Kamala Harris, what is one thing, one thing that you would have done differently than Joe Biden over the last three and a half years? You know what she said? Nothing comes to mind. That is, I think, the official tagline of the Kamala Harris campaign for president. Nothing comes to mind.

Right? That's the. And good morning. It's 807. It's a. Thursday, October 17th, 2024 Neal Larson, along with Julie Mason as we get the show underway here. And by the way, the number to reach us if you'd like to on the fall River propane Collin text line is (208) 542-1079. Julie, we are 19 days away. Wow. You're ready? Oh. So ready.

I want this, I. I wish it was next Tuesday. Yeah, I'm. But, I'll be patient and wait a couple more Tuesdays. Okay. So, Yeah, it it, I've reached a point, Julie, where my mind can't process everything because we have, of course, the presidential race, which is, is nationally the big deal. Like, it's sort of all consuming right now.

And yet, Kamala Harris appearing with Brett Baer on Fox News in what I think was a disastrous interview for her, the media is going to try to spin it to something else, and they'll be busy over the next couple of days to try and soften the impact of that. But anybody who watched the interview will think otherwise. I think we, also have a lot on our plate here in Idaho as we fight over prop one.

I've noticed very few people are are weighing in on the like, legislative races, I think, because they're kind of foregone conclusion. Yeah, you got a few competitive races. There's one in Pocatello that I think is is kind of competitive, and I'm sure from around the state. But I think all eyes right now are on prop one. I would agree with that.

I that's the talking point. I've been telling everyone, make sure you get out and vote on prop one. It will it will decimate our current voting system. And that's how important it is to decide whether or not you want to vote for that or against it. You know, you and I were talking about, the, the signs that are out there.

And of course, we're going to be out, helping distribute prop one signs tomorrow and vote no on prop one signs tomorrow from one until 230 at Wealth of Health and the corner of First and and Woodruff and a very much looking forward to interfacing with our listeners. We had a great time last Friday. Talking with them.

We're going to have lawmakers there. Yes, we just heard Dave Lente is going to join us, along with Barbie Hart and Wendy Harman. And then that'll be great. We also have invitations out for other lawmakers, so we look forward to hearing back from them and hopefully they can, join us, tomorrow afternoon. But it just takes up so much bandwidth.

Yes. Yeah, it it is a lot. And I think that it has to be that way because the propaganda that's being pushed by the proponents for for proposition one is just not truthful. You brought in a flier today and and showed it to me. I had looked at it. It came from, the vote yes on prop one group of people.

When I opened up our text line, I think it was five different texts had come in yesterday afternoon after you and I were off air. Yeah, either hey, I got this horrible flier or a picture of the flier. People were disgusted by the flier. Now you know why they're disgusted? Not because there's anything like you. Look at it.

It's fine. It looks fine. The problem with the flier, it only tells 50% of the proposition. There is zero mention on this flier about ranked choice voting. Not once. And it's double sided back, front and back. So this is a great opportunity to talk about my theory, because I think a deal was was crafted between the Jim Jones camp.

And he's sort of the bridge between Bruce Nukem and Butch Otter and that whole group and the I mean, I say socialists very loosely. They're just they're just far left. They're Luke Melville and Todd Achilles. And I think each side gets something. I think that they reclaim Idaho is going to get ranked choice voting. I think that's going to help them get their candidates in.

Similar to how Mary Pelton got in up in Alaska a couple of years ago, I think they know it's going to be a very common scenario in Idaho that you're going to have usually one Democrat, and then you'll have two or maybe three Republicans. You only can have four total, but 2 or 3 Republicans. Well, you might think, well, ranked choice voting always avoids vote splitting it doesn't it?

I in fact, if you look at Alaska, it it does not avoid vote splitting. It kind of can soften it because votes can be re apportioned. But the real problem is in that race. And I want to explain this as concisely as I can, because I don't want to get off in the weeds in it. Nick Begich was the guy that could have beaten either Sarah or Mary Tola in a head to head, but because it was ranked choice voting, he had the softest amount of first round support, so he was gone.

His ballots got re apportioned, half went to Palin, about 29% went to Pell Tola and then the remaining 21% were tossed because people didn't rank their ballots. So their ballots just if they had taken the time to rank it, I think you would have seen even more support for Sarah Palin. She and she ended up losing by 3%.

She could have that could have put Sarah Palin over the over the edge in reality. A it's, like 60% of Alaska voted against Pell Tola in that first. They didn't want her to to be the, the, the member of Congress. Now, they might have chosen her as a second choice, whatever. But very few did that. And so that those are the little games that get played.

And I think Reclaim Idaho knows those sorts of dynamics are going to be able to pick off a seat here and there across the state. And that's what they want. They want they want their candidates to to get in. I think what Jim Jones group gets is revenge, because if they can't be in charge of the party, they'd rather burn it down.

And and destroy the relevance of the Republican Party in the process. The Democrat Party is already irrelevant. This now just puts the Republican Party in the same category of irrelevance as the Democrat Party. Yeah. Equity in a different way. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Because I, I genuinely believe that. And I think the Bruce Nukem mailer, that is it.

I don't know how that isn't fraudulent right there. Yeah I don't know how that not. It is a two part proposition, two distinct and different parts, which is part of the lawsuit that will be filed if it gets passed. Yeah. Okay. So it is clearly two distinct parts. They ask you to vote yes on it and only give you half of the information.

How does that make you feel? I, I don't buy it 100%, but I'm an only tell you half of me, you go to you, you apply for a job. Yeah. And they say, okay, your hours are going to be from this time to this time on these days, and this will be your office right here. And you say, oh, and how much am I going to get paid?

Oh, we don't discuss that part yet. Yeah. You you you you take the job. You wouldn't take the job. You want all of the information before you decide if you're going to take the job. Why would you vote yes on something without all of the information? Yeah, I don't I don't know, but actually let me sort of finish out the theory.

If you search for any video clips of Butch Otter talking about his support for this proposition, he will never talk about ranked choice voting. He just won't because I can't find it. I've looked I can't find him praising it. I'm sure you could probably find some from Jim Jones. I'm sure he's talked a little bit about it, but it's clear his primary interest is in the open primaries part the Dorothy Destroyer.

We just call it that. Sure. Because that's part of it. Yeah. The it's the destroy Dorothy proposition. And so, Bruce Newcomb, same thing. This fliers proof he won't talk about ranked choice voting. He they don't really want that. But if that's what it takes to get rid of Dorothy, they'll do that. And so if you if you watch it closely, and I'm the mentally ill person who's been watching it this closely, you won't see Butch Otter at the same event as Luke Melville and Todd Achilles.

You probably won't see, although Bruce Nukem was it one that that I did see. They're like two separate worlds. I think it's emblematic that we have two very completely separate ideas under one banner on this proposition. And it it's it's this. It is it's an unholy alliance that they've created to try to get this through. They each have something the other one wants.

And so they're in bed with each other to try to push this through. Yeah, I agree, I think that there is there is conversations going, well, I don't really care about that portion of it, but if that's what you need, I need the other half of this. So let's do this. Let's get this done. And it it just underscores the amount of dishonesty that has been presented from day one with this proposition.

Day one, they've been dishonest with the language. They wanted the title to be something different. They've been dishonest with the word choices like block and injustice. Yeah, they've been dishonest about the way that they've advertised it. When you were when you saw the petition signers everywhere ranked choice voting was not mentioned until you got to the fine print on the on the bottom of the first page.

Yeah. Their banners don't mention ranked choice voting. Nothing. Nothing is mentioned about ranked choice voting yet they want to slide that really icky part in there. And it's clearly 50% of it. Yeah, it's that 7% of this. Yeah 10% of this. It is half of the proposition and they won't talk about it. So I'm I'm seeing an interesting phenomenon with this too, because I read some of the social media comments that people are making.

And I think if they can get you to drink the Kool-Aid on the open primaries, you don't care about the ranked choice voting. If you had been presented with both ideas holistically, you were presented. Here's what this does. Before you had had drunk the the the open primaries Kool-Aid, you'd be like that ranked choice voting is a poison pill.

I can't do that. In fact, we've talked to lawmakers that have said exactly that. They're like, yeah, I want open primaries, but I can't stand ranked choice voting. I'm not a fan of that. And so if you're presented simultaneously or if you were presented with ranked choice voting as the lead concept, very few people were because it's always they've always touted this thing as open primaries.

But you're like, no, that's a deal killer. They don't they don't want that. What they do is they try to get you drunk on the open primaries idea first, and then you'll go anywhere they want to take you. And you're, you're good with it, and you almost start defending the ranked choice voting. Very few people come to this initially defending ranked choice voting and secondarily by, adopting open primaries.

It's almost always the reverse of it. And it's just this psychological thing. Once they've they've gotcha. You've got this, Stockholm syndrome going on and you're like, oh, okay, no, I'm all in on this. And you actually become sort of an ambassador for ranked choice voting, even though you probably know in your heart this is going to be a mess.

And a reminder about the Kool-Aid, that is the open primaries that people are like, yeah, I think that kind of sounds good, okay? But they've been deceitful about the way they've presented that as well. Yeah, they're deceitful when they say that if we get rid of the primary, as it currently is, it will allow all Idahoans to vote.

Well, if I say that phrase to you, that makes it sound like they don't have an opportunity to vote right now. Yeah, they do. They absolutely do. They have an opportunity. It is deceitful language. Yeah. That's the lie they have to tell you. They have to tell them. They have to say it. They have to get you mad first.

And then once they get you mad, then you're going to go along with whatever they say. They're they're plucking at your emotions to get you to feel something so that you'll buy it. Okay. My brain. Julie, I oddly want to talk about Kamala Harris for a moment. Well, let's do it. Because she gave us. She gave us a buffet last night.

She. Yes, she absolutely did. She agreed to an interview with Brett Baer. I think at this point maybe she regrets it, but, Well, we'll just start no particular order here. She answers the question. How come half the country is supporting Trump? That's turning 70% of people. That is turning the page on rhetoric that people are, frankly, exhausted of more than percent.

People tell the country is on the wrong track. They say the country is on the wrong track. If it's on the wrong track. That track follows three and a half years of you being vice president and President Biden being president. That is what they're saying, 79% of them. Why are they saying that? If you're turning the page, you've been in office for three and a half years and Donald Trump has been running for office, so you've been the person to tell me, all right, now I know what I'm talking about.

You and I both know what I'm I actually don't. What are you talking about? What I'm talking about is that over the last decade, people have become more. But listen, over the last decade, it is clear to me, and certainly the Republicans who are on stage with me, the, the the former chief of staff to the president, Donald Trump, former defense secretaries, national security advisor and his vice president, one that he is unfit to serve, that he is unstable, that he is danger and that people are exhausted.

But someone who professes to be a leader, who spends full time demeaning and and engaging in personal grievances, and it being about him and the American people. If that's the case, why is half the country supporting him? Why is he beating you and a lot of swing states? Why, if he's as bad as you say, that half of this country is now supporting this person who could be the 47th president of the United States, why is that happening?

This is a little election for president of the United States. It's not supposed to be easy. I know, but it's not supposed to be. It didn't. It is not okay. She's not even answering the questions. She's sort of going off on this, I don't know. She takes this tone of of superiority there. That's not that. That is not a congruent answer to what Bret bears asking.

Well she had she didn't answer any of the questions he asked. Yeah I, I'm but actually greaser I do believe the country's exhausted. I think that's why in that poll 79% said they're not happy with the way the track that America is on. Yeah. They are exhausted. You're darn right Kamala. That's the one point you did get.

Right. What you failed to understand is you have to take some responsibility for that. It's been three and a half years of you and Biden. Yeah. Yeah. You're you're the one that's been in charge of the direction of the country. One other clip before our commercial break. And this is another testy exchange where Bret Baer asked her about when she first noticed Joe, Joe Biden's cognitive decline.

You better call Donald Trump. He's misguided. You say now he's unstable, stable. He is unstable, but he's not. Well, you say he's mentally not stable. He's not saying you ask you this. You told interviewers that Joe Biden was on his game that ran around circles on his staff. When did you first notice that President Biden's mental faculties appeared diminished?

Joe Biden I have watched in from the Oval Office to the Situation Room, and he has the judgment and the experiment and experience to do exactly what he has done and making very important decisions on behalf of the American people. The concerns with Joe Biden is not on the ballot. I'm Donald Trump, Donald Trump, you talked about him and Donald Trump and George Clooney.

So within a few minutes, you're talking to President Biden at a fundraiser that he thought this was not the same Joe Biden that we saw on the debate stage is on the ballot. I understand you met with him at least once a week for three and a half years. You didn't have any concerns. I think the American people have a concern about Donald Trump, which is why the people who know him best, including leaders of our national security community, have all spoken out, even people who were.

Okay. So she goes off on that misdirection thing again, that same national security team that, we just got FBI stats yesterday that proved that they lied in the debate. The crime is actually up 4.5%, not down like they have been touting for the last four months. Those people. So I'm supposed to believe you, Kamala? I it is just everything centered back on Trump.

What a huge, huge mistake to say when when the country is off track to say, well, Trump's been running for president. How much power do you think this man has? You are the one making the decisions. Well, yeah I it it it is the inability to take ownership. And there's actually another clip about that. We've got to take a break.

And if you're on the phone, stick with us. We'll get to your phone calls as well. Coming up on the fall River propane, call and text line (208) 542-1079. It's a Thursday and we'll be back.

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Do you? It's 831 on Newstalk 179. Neal Larson, along with Julie Mason. And, we're going to go right to the phones. Hi, caller. How are you today? Hi. My name is Hamilton. Your name is. Hey. Hi. Hi. What what would you like to say today? Hey. So I have this, last week about to start. Trump is not a bad person.

I think Kamala Harris is an excellent person. She helped she she them. And I watch that. And I think that she is the nicest thing. She's more flexible than Trump, more flexible than Trump. Would you say that Kamala Harris is more calm? Would you say she's more capable than Trump? Yep. Came here. Would you say she's more experienced than Trump?

Yep. Okay. Would you say she's smarter than Trump. So she's smarter. She's more capable. You know if you believe that then I strongly encourage you go go ahead and vote for Kamala Harris if that's what you really believe. Anything else. Are you there. Jesus. Okay I think Jesus wanted a fight. I'm not. I think Jesus, I broke Jesus's brain because I'm not going to fight with him.

Look, if you if you're all in on that, you feel free. You. Yeah, you go for it. You do you and go. Sneaky suspicion that might not have been 100% genuine, but, you go ahead and do your thing. Call her. Yeah, that's.

(202) 085-4210. We have so many checks coming in today, and it's got to be a prank. That's it. I'm not convinced you. Whatever you do, you, buddy. Yeah. That that was, No, people are. People are insisting that was fake. Okay. Oh, boy. I don't know quite where to go. Look like. Let's just examine it for a second, okay?

Let's say it was fake. Okay? Let's say it was fake. Yeah. If you have to be fake about what you're selling, it's not worth selling. That's my thing with prop one, if you have to hide 50% of the proposition, it's not worth having. Yeah, if you have to be fake on a phone call, if it was fake, you don't have any value in what you're selling.

You either have the capability to defend what you feel or you don't have the capability. And that's the problem with prop one. You can't defend ranked choice voting. So you're hiding it. Yeah. If that was a fake call. You truly can't defend Kamala. So you have to pretend to be somebody else. That's true. Yeah. That's a that's a good point.

Which is you, Julie, we actually talk in our radio meetings here about the importance of authenticity when you're on the air, when you're when just be yourself because it's too much energy to be fake all the time. And people see through it. Yeah, yeah, they do, they do. Let's go to I, I had a gas station burrito this morning.

I won't hide that. It's so fun for me to be in this studio with them. And it was even I had to microwave it. You did it. I'm not exaggerating anything. All right, let's let's go back to the phones. Caller. Welcome to the show. How are you? Well. I'm good. Nailed your leg. Yeah, I just have, Kamala Harris gets in, which I hope she doesn't.

When I heard that guy saying things like that, I just thought to myself, well, he's probably about as dumb as she is. Yeah. If she does get in, then he finds out just what a big mistake was made on his part. He won't have anything. They'll be able to complain about Willie. No, I in fact, one, the last couple of election cycles, I had heard this quote.

And I'm sort of just remembered it and incorporated it. We we get the leaders that we deserve. If you if you love Kamala Harris and you think she'll be fantastic, then you deserve Kamala Harris. You absolutely deserve Kamala Harris. If that's who you think is going to be the best president, but not you, I, I certainly, just not going to vote for her.

No, I'm not sure. I'm not. Yeah, I understand what you're saying, but and I, I totally understand. So if that guy, if she gets in and eight votes for. He gets exactly what he deserves. Yes. Anyway. Agreed. Hey, you do you have a great day. Thank you. You you as well. Julie. If somebody texts in and is nasty, Julie has a very good reply to them.

She says, I hope you have the day you deserve. Yeah, okay. It comes back around, you get what you give and if you're going to be nasty, it's going to come back around to you. So if they're going to send in something nasty, I always just say, I hope you have the day you deserve. Yeah, yeah. Yep. And that's the that's the truth with Kamala, if you're going to vote for Kamala, you get what you deserve.

Do you think it registers with them when you text that back saying, I hope you have the day you deserve? No, no, no I don't I don't think they. Yeah. And that's okay. Which is sort of our passive aggressive way of saying, we hope you crash your car and your puppy died. I don't want that for them. Okay.

But I do think that if you want good things to happen in your life, you need to give good. And then I think that in all parts of your life, like, don't be dishonest, don't be. We're talking about being authentic. If you're not an authentic person, it's going to come back to bite you. Yeah, you're going to get it.

It does. It eventually catches up with you, like that gas station burrito. Yeah, but but at least you were authentic about having it. It was. It was a very authentic gas station burrito to.

We should have a day of our listeners attempting to prank call it. No, because then I don't want it. I feel like I'm always like, are they going to say something that we need to silence really fast? Well, okay. So I, I genuinely don't think that was a prank call. I think that person was being genuine, like it was real.

I think it was real. I don't I don't think it was a Trump supporter posing as a Kamala supporter. I don't think I think they actually called up and they truly think that, look, I've been doing this a long time and you you get a real spidey sense for the people who are pranking you. I don't think he was.

I think the call was a little bit unbelievable because Kamala is so demonstrably incompetent and incapable. But I actually think there's a set of people out there. They've got Kool-Aid stains all over their upper lip. They are all in on this and and the, well, our deranged texter who texts in and can't stand Trump and it doesn't matter.

They believe anything they hear that is pro Kamala. Yeah. I didn't think it was a, somebody calling in pretending to be a liberal. Yeah, I think it was a liberal pretending to have a Hispanic accent. Oh, making up the accent. I you know what? I have to go. You know what? We'll ask Domingo. I'll pull the audio and I'll say, Domingo, is this a real Hispanic person or is this,

Yeah, that's that's what I thought. I thought it was somebody who. True. I think they truly are voting for Kamala, and they don't know how to defend her, but they didn't want to reveal who they really were, so they were pretending to be Hispanic. So this Kamala support was authentic? The accent? Not so much. That's what I thought.

Okay, okay. That could be. That could be all right. Yeah. No, I truly believe I was I was telling Neal I had a conversation with somebody yesterday that's 100% in on Kamala. Yeah. That Donald Trump is so dangerous. Yeah. But that's her only option and I so I was chatting with her and she said oh she's not smart.

She's a dumb woman. Yeah okay. Oh all right. But they're still supporting her. Yeah. All right. You go ahead and vote for is it just Trump derangement, Yeah, man, I got I don't even know how to respond to that. Yeah, you know what that means. You're signing up for for the next four years, more of the garbage we've had for the last three and a half.

My response to her was, well, that terrifies me on the foreign front, because if you just said she's a dumb woman, how will she ever handle the safety of our country? Yeah, you have to be a thinker to handle the safety of a country. Incompetent should be a deal killer. No matter what. 841 back after this.

847 On Newstalk 179, Neal Larson and Julie Mason. Do you know what we have not done in a while? Julie, tell me, had I write a song? Yeah, it's been a minute I could have. I write a song about a radio caller that calls in and fakes a Hispanic accent and a game. I mean, just a hypothetical idea like that might work.

Yeah. All right. (208) 542-1079 my CNN TV keeps turning off, but I will I will say one of the things that happened on CNN this morning is they have focused heavily on the bombing of Hezbollah. That happened overnight. We haven't talked about that at all. I'm sure you've heard it in the national news breaks. That tells me they have nothing to talk about with the interview with Kamala.

They can't push a positive narrative at all. Yeah. So they're going to have to focus on that instead. Yeah, I think you're right. That's a good point. Like it's a good excuse to not talk about Kamala Harris. Absolutely. But then you have Brian Stelter. Not Brian Stelter Brian Stelter is carrying the Kamala water. And here's what he had to say.

Strategy from Harris was a Google strategy. She wanted Fox viewers to start to Google some of the things she was saying, because some of the comments she was making in this interview are foreign to the Fox audience. For example, general Mark Milley saying Trump is a fascist to the core that's barely been covered on Fox News. So she was able to get some of those talking points.

And this was the most adversarial interview Kamala Harris has probably ever done. Instead of getting to debate Trump again, she got the debate. Bret Baer and a lot of viewers are going to come away saying, wow, she's willing to do that. That's a sign of toughness and strength. Nobody thinks that, Brian, now a sign of toughness and strength would have been she's not scared at all to do this interview.

She would have shown up on time and she would have answered some questions instead of defaulting to trump with every answer and filibustering. Again, you can't hide what happened for the 25 minutes yesterday. No, it was a horrific interview for Kamala Harris. I also. Excuse me. Gas station. Brita, I'm. No, I, I don't know, I feel like I just sucked in a mosquito or something, but, like, I listen to what Brian Stelter has to say and he acts like the Fox audience only listens to Fox News 24 seven.

Well, that would require him to admit about the ratings failure that is CNN. Yeah. Which is what he's on. Fox has been dominating this race for years now. You know what I think it is. And this is probably I don't think he's being necessarily dishonest. But I think I could media splain to him. No Brian you know what you guys just keep telling lie after lie after lie after lie about Donald Trump.

So when this whole Milley said he's a fascist thing, now that's just another string of nasty things you've said about Trump, whether it's Russia, Trump collusion or quid pro quo with Ukraine or, or, whatever. Yeah. I mean, there's a there's a long string of those at some point, all those accusations like, you know, crying wolf, it just fades into the background noise.

And so it doesn't it's not that Kamala is smarter than everyone and she knows things Fox viewers don't. It's that Fox viewers have caught on to this whole shtick that you have of just incessantly spreading every nasty thing you've ever heard about Trump, as though it's gospel truth. Yeah. So like we have the clip and I can't remember who was interviewing Brett Bear.

Who was it that it was the female Fox anchor in that clip? I can't remember. Anyway, last night she was saying that, Fox News has the widest demographic of independent news watchers, meaning those who don't, who don't identify as Republican, those who don't identify as Democrats, the independent voters, a majority of them. Watch Fox News now. The data plays that out.

You would think that's just Fox News congratulating themselves. No, the data plays it out because if you have a bigger audience, share, you're going to have more independents watching you than are watching CNN. Because just by default, you have a not just a kind of bigger audience share. It's multiples, it's multiples. So you are going to have more independents watching that.

I would throw right back in Brian Stelter space and say, they've got to get their news from somewhere. You have been lying there trying to find it. They probably tune in to CNN every once in a while also. Yeah, but this gave independent voters a good idea of what can Kamala do in a tough situation. Well, I think if you think back and we compare CNN to Fox, let's get a little more specific and compare Dana Bash to Bret Baer, Dana Bash had the interview with Kamala Harris, and she asked one couple of questions that were a little tough, but they most of it was softball.

Was that the one where both of them, Kamala and Tim, sat down together? That's the way they agreed to it. Yes, yes. And Dana Bash at one point gave her the multiple choice, and they were all really pleasing answers. Like here, here's here's a few examples that you could use to answer this question. And I think if you're an independent, you're actually not all that interested in the Dana Bash interview because she is not going to drill down to get the answer.

You watch Bret Baer. He has a much more determined style. He's not rude. He's not he's not uncivil. But he he is persistent and tries to get to the heart of it. It's similar to the well before 60 minutes altered their interview. That interview, I thought, did a pretty decent job, and I'm hoping it's an editor after the fact that did what they did and not him.

But, you they're you're much more interested in that interview that's going to get down to the heart and, and the guts of everything. So let's go back to the independent voter, because that was my worry. Right. Well, I'm sitting there with you at the debate watch party with Trump and Kamala, and I'm getting a little bit frustrated about Trump's answers.

I felt like he was diving down rabbit holes. He did not need to dive down. Yeah it was. And it was. I'm like, I get why why you're doing it Trump. But it's not going to help you. The reason I was saying that is because it's not going to help him with the independent voter, because those are the voters that are going to tune in to see these two side by side, to see how they compare to each other.

Yeah. Okay. This same kind of voter is going to tune in to see how Kamala Harris does in a tough interview. Now, I don't think Trump had a great debate performance, not a stellar win. I don't think he had a horrible win. Yeah, I think this performance by Kamala yesterday was disastrous I agree. So the independent voter saw, performance from Trump and a disastrous performance from Kamala.

I promise you, if if you could be a fly on the wall inside Kamala's campaign today, they're they're panicking. Upheaval. Absolutely. It is. 8:54 p.m. on Newstalk 1079. We'll come back. We'll wrap up this hour just ahead.

All right. 858 on this Thursday on Newstalk 1079. By the way, if you missed our interview with Hiram Erickson from yesterday, we brought him on to, well, sort something out, about candidates and affiliating. We will include that in the podcast feed very, very soon. So yeah, keep an eye open for that. Hour two coming up on this Thursday on Newstalk 1079.

Welcome. Our two. It's 907 on Newstalk 179, Neal Larson and Julie Mason looking forward to tomorrow. A proposition one vote, no sign distribution that sort of turned into a political rally. And we are looking forward to hearing from representatives Wendy Harmon and Barbie Hart. Senator Dave Land just earlier this morning confirmed he will be here as well. And that will happen tomorrow afternoon, 1 to 230 in the parking lot of Wealth of Health at the corner of First Street and Woodruff.

Yes. Yeah, Woodruff and first Street. In my mind, I got him mixed up anyway. Yes. So just the the kind of the larger area between Wealth of Health and Subway just you won't miss it. Just just come in and, grab a sign, hang out, wear your jacket. I checked the temperature. It should be sunny, but we're going to have high 40s and low 50s during that time frame, so might be a little brisk.

Yeah, we won't be sunbathing, so get a nice sweater, good cardigan, maybe a jacket. You'll be just fine and come party with us. We're gonna have music and you have the capability to chat with your lawmakers. We'll also hopefully have some precinct officers there. I'd love to see people interact with them. So it's going to be a good atmosphere.

And the big deal is getting that vote no on prop one sign. So far, I've had no request for my interpretive dance. I'm sorry. People just don't understand your talent level. I know, I get it, I know it, it it really is. It just, you know, it, but it it's a quiet pain that I deal with. I mean, like, have our difficulties.

And you're handling this one stellar. We do like I, you know I keep it in and I just struggle in and but it's okay. I put on a front face that my interpretive dance skills are not in demand. Things. What's that you put on a front face? I mean, a strong face. Look, I you know what? I had another night of about 3.5 hours of sleep, so I don't want to hear from you.

In comparison to my back face or my side face, I put on my front face. My front face like a front facing camera. So I, 208542127I will go to the phones. Hi, caller. How are you today? I'm doing well. How are you guys today? Yeah, we're doing pretty well. What's up? Good. Just wanted to, give, resident of Idaho Falls a shout out if you guys, if you opportunity to drive down 17th.

Heading east right before homes, there's a amazing sign, on a yard that, says, Kamala Harris is an idiot. It's about five feet long and three feet tall. And, on the heels of last night's, interview, I thought it was very fitting. I just wanted to give them a shout out. Thank you. Good day.

Okay. Thank you for the call. It would be interesting to talk and see what they have. They got any hate for that or people sending them letters like. That's rude. That's name calling. It would be interesting if you really want to like, you really want to find it. It's, at the intersection of Higbee and 17th on the south side of 17th Street.

I was actually the first time I drove it, because we had heard this sign was out there. I was looking on the north side and then caught it out of the corner of my eye. It was on the south side, so south side of 17th Street at the Higbee intersection. Yeah. All right. (208) 542-1079 next caller yeah. Hung up.

Yeah. Hung up. We're missing you. Neal's got his front face on and everything, and you hung up the phone. You know what? Have compassionate south. Julie, come out for a minute. I like compassionate south. Julie, I don't know, there's way too much sassiness going on right now. I don't know how to I don't know how to, like, stifle that.

Yeah. I mean, we are in the midst of a a crazy, crazy election. So you mentioned this, yesterday I saw this story, Julie, that, the owner of Lay's Doritos into Tostitos and Ruffles chips. They are putting more chips in some bags to claw back customers tired of higher prices with skimpy back. Can I ask a question?

Why aren't they doing it all along? I don't know, I mean, inflation, I mean that's what they're going to say. And that they're now they're finding ways to cut costs to give back to consumers. That's what they're going to say. That's the great PR talking point. Yeah. I honestly think do you want my psychoanalysis of what I think of America thought, yeah, I believe they thought this would be far shorter lived than it was the inflation issue.

That's what they were sold. That's that's what people told them. That's what the quote unquote experts said. And we get these reports that the job market is great and blue. But when you dive into the reports about unemployment, it is the same people are working. They're just working three jobs now. Yeah. So jobs are being fulfilled. It doesn't mean that it's not there.

They have to work more. Yes. They've got to work more to maintain the just the regular standard of living that they had. Yeah. That's a that's a really interesting distinction. So I think that people thought it was going to be shorter. I did see yesterday that, $7,500 or 7500 jobs were lost at an auto plant. I think it was Detroit.

Yeah. Connected to Jeep. And I only remember Jeep because I drive a Jeep, so that's why I remember that. But. Yeah, because they're not selling enough cars. There are still cars 20, 23 new models, are sitting on some car lots. We're about to get the 2025 rolling in. Yeah, right. Yeah. So two years. Wow. Oh okay.

I like I think back to the the pandemic and I distinctly remember the supply chain issues being blamed for why everything is, is expensive. And I think that definitely a part of it. But I think they were trying to hide the inflationary policies and consequences behind the supply chain excuse. Yeah. And now that the supply chain thing is not an issue anymore, then they got nothing left.

And and what we found out is they created so much extra money in the economy, it devalued the dollar. And it's not that stuff is more expensive. It's just our dollars aren't aren't going as far. Yeah. Yeah. They're just not as valuable as they used to me. And and so Yeah. Yeah. Is Trump going to fix it.

Well I can't answer that. I can't answer if Trump is going to fix it, I do I do know this. It's not going to get any better with the current strategy that the Biden-Harris administration is implementing. And so I don't want to keep doing you don't do the same results and expect something different. Yeah. And that's what we've been doing for nearly four years now.

I don't want that. I did have prior to Covid landing in March of 2020, a pretty darn good economy going on with Trump. Yeah. So if I'm going to judge it completely off of history, I feel my chances are a lot better with Trump as the quarterback. Yeah, very much I and I would agree with that. I think.

I don't know that we'll see prices come back down, but what I think, because you don't really see that the general trend is up because of inflation, I do think Trump will be able to enact policies that will get wages up. So that our income can better match up with the higher prices. So I'm guessing that's the that's the strategy here.

(208) 542-1079 is there anything unique at the grocery store that is actually cheaper that you have looked at and go, oh, that's less than I thought it would be. I ran into something the other day, but I can't remember what it was like I bought one. I'm like, that's actually not that that unreasonable, that expensive. I, I would say no, but I eat a lot of almonds and pistachios.

Those are through the roof. I feel like fruit and vegetables are very, very expensive. Now. I eat a lot of that. I don't purchase, like carbs or bread or noodles or things like that. Maybe those are down, those packaged things I don't. Maybe they are down a little bit. I don't I don't know enough to say I haven't noticed anything now me, me very happily going, oh, I love that it's down.

I haven't recognized that, but maybe somebody else has. Yeah. All right. (208) 542-1079. If you'd like to join us on the program this morning, we are talking about proposition one. And it were if I'm curious where people are at, should we just do, like, a best 10s people can call in and tell us where they're at on this thing.

And I'm guessing our audience is going to be pretty overwhelmingly against it. But I want to know why. Like, what is their observation? I would also love to know the conversations they've had with people, if they want to share some of the conversations that, hey, I chatted with a coworker and couldn't change their mind because they feel like this is true.

I would love to know those talking points that people are using. Oh yeah, we could actually just make that a segment. And just have people call in about that. Like what has your experience been as you've talked to people maybe week there could be a pulley element to it. Do you think it's going to pass or not.

Because right now I have no idea I have I, I'm still leaning towards it's going to pass. I, I'm day to day, I'll be honest with you because I am. So look, I'm thrilled that Frank Vandersloot is lending his considerable voice against this. That's what we need. And typically, Frank's usually on the the winning outcome.

Does that make sense. Yeah. And so I, I think he's viewing it as a, as an achievable outcome to, to stop this thing. So I'm, I'm happy to hear that, that he's doing that. I also it's, it's weird if you all could experience what we experienced with the text feed. Some people say I'm seeing vote yes signs everywhere.

Other people are saying, I, I've seen like one or I don't see any anywhere. So I it just depends. Hard to read. Yeah. It really is. All right. Let's go to the phones. Hi, caller. How are you today? Is it me? It's you. Yeah. Go ahead. So, up in the upper Valley, and I think it's really interesting because I'm a no.

But there was no signs until a couple of weeks ago, I put a sign in my yard and had two people that I thought were super solid, drive up and say, what's prop one? So I don't think I don't think many people know I've even talked to people and say, hey, where are you at with prop one?

And they said, I don't know, what are you talking about? What what's your take on it? So I was real hopeful that we're pretty solid on. No, but I'm shocked how many people don't know. And, heading up to, the college this weekend, there were, multiple more vote yes signs heading up to BYU Idaho this weekend.

And there has been there's been nothing. And there were several yes signs heading up the hill. So anyway, it makes me nervous. Okay, well, thank you for the call. I appreciate that. Makes me a little nervous too. So, we have somebody on the Facebook Live feed that said, I talked to a couple from Alaska yesterday. They have a prop one on their ballot to repeal ranked choice voting.

We've talked about that on here, that Alaska hates it so bad they're trying to get rid of it, she said. This couple adamantly said vote no on prop one. We've experienced it. You don't want it. Okay. All right. Let's go to the next caller. Welcome to the show. Hi. Hi. I don't think that most of us, those of us that are voting go, don't understand enough detail to explain to all of our friends and neighbors and why they should vote.

No. All we can say is you should vote no. I wish there was a YouTube video or something that they explain more detail. Yeah, it's that we could point people to. Look, I've been very vague, but I'll say it. Okay, Neal is working, tireless hours to put together a project. Exactly what you're talking about. Very understandable. Clips of interviews that we've conducted, clips of interviews that other media have conducted, all collated in one place.

He doesn't want to give a deadline on this because it it is extensive. It is extensive to do. And when I say he's worked tirelessly, he was here past midnight last night, so I'm hoping to get it done in the next couple of days. As soon as it drops you, all of these listeners will be the first to know, so that you can then take it and show it to your neighbors and help them understand great.

Thank you. Thank you for the call. And yeah, like I said, this has been sort of bubbling in my mind for like two months now. And, as I have seen the escalation and things that people have said to us, and I think about the just the massive amounts of material that we've had, we've asked so many lawmakers and candidates where they stand on this, and we have their answers.

We I feel like we understand the issue very well and and what the impacts are going to be if there is confusion, it's because the proposition is confusing. It's like the affiliation issue that we dealt with yesterday when we had Hyrum Erickson on. We're not confused about it. The proposition itself is confused about it. And it's confusing. Yeah.

Wording by proponents and wording in the proposition and how it's written in its actual long form and then how it's written in the short form on the ballot are all different. Yeah, it is. And I will I will tell you it's it's a documentary style presentation. I've never made a documentary before, so I, I'm a little hesitant to say this is a documentary, but that's the style that I've, I've put forward.

I'm anticipating it already. I'm probably up to about 25 ish to 30 minutes of it, and I've got another couple of scenes to go. So in the end it'll be probably 40 ish minutes. I'm guessing maybe a little bit longer than that. And we will, spread it far and wide and, and let anybody who wants to watch it, they can watch it and I it's clear, Julie, from this, you know where I stand on this prop.

Oh, yeah. And that's going to be reflected in, in this piece of work that I've, put together. But I actually believe it's not rooted in bias. It's rooted in understanding the whole thing. Yeah. And I feel like I'm actually more neutral than anything because I get the entire story when I look at that flier that was sent out by Bruce Nukem.

That is a travesty that they have spent thousands and thousands of dollars to send out a half truth to how many hundreds of thousands of Idahoans are going to get that flier, and they're going to think what they're voting on is just an open primaries thing, that everybody will get to vote in the primaries, in an election that they pay for.

That's what so many people are going to vote on. And then when they find out after it passes that, no, it's not just that it's ranked choice voting. They are gutting statutorily. They are absolutely gutting our entire election system. That doesn't say that. And they're replacing it with a much more complex system that has features that some people might find problematic.

In Alaska, for instance, in the special election with Palin and Portola and Begich, they started voting November 8th. They did. They could not even begin tabulating until November 23rd, 15 days later. Now that's a mess. Quite frankly. And furthermore, you had the race where Peltz, she had 60% of people in the first round not voting for her.

And and we know that Alaska's, conservative Republicans state and and certainly that congressional seat. Dan Young has held that for 50 years before he passed away. And, he he was a Republican overall, Alaska is very red. And they have a Democrat who's fairly liberal. And that's that's that candidate is not reflective of the Alaska electorate. So despite the promises that they give you, all this is just about finding candidates that are more reflective of the electorate.

That is not what happened in Alaska. Yeah. Okay. So let's talk about something from here. Americans, interview yesterday he he was focusing on this concept about open primaries and that he would like to not have taxpayer dollars pay for, a private election. A private party election is what he was calling it. Yeah. Okay. In that interview you said to him, then why didn't you just try to fix that?

Yeah, if that's truly the problem, if that's what they're saying, is the problem. You used a sledgehammer when a screwdriver could have worked. Yeah. So you have to somehow back up the 50% of the rest of the proposition that has to deal with ranked choice voting. If you really feel like it is unfair. I don't think it's unfair, but we can disagree on that.

If you really feel like it's unfair to voters that tax dollars are used to pay for a Republican Party primary, then fix that problem. Yeah, stop blowing up the whole system because you're not being genuine. You're not being truthful. You're destroying the whole entire system because you have a problem with one little with with one singular part. Well, and I will also say, could we tackle open primaries as a standalone issue in Idaho.

Absolutely. So if you're pro prop one because you like open primaries, pause your thinking for a moment. Let reopen your your decision here. You can do that. We're 19 days before the election. You have plenty of time. And just ask yourself a question. If my issue is open primaries, isn't that the issue that we should address without all this other complexity?

Exactly. Because we can. And I actually think there's a massive amount of pressure to do so, even if this thing were to fail, if it passes, I think it's going to be bogged up in the courts and lawsuits and everything else and may not it may not survive. If it fails, we have a clean slate and we can revisit open primaries.

I'm not for it because I understand the the principles behind it, but I understand those people that are and I think it's worth the discussion and and worth the addressing that that issue in Idaho. I think there is enough of a groundswell of, hey, more independents should be able to have more voice or whatever. However, we do that, that's fine.

But can't we address that issue as its own issue, which is what Attorney General, Raul Labrador was saying? These are two very separate ideas, and the proponents for prop one are only are only talking about one half of it. Yeah, that's dishonest to Idaho voters. And it is not what Idaho voters were asked for or presented. Yeah, you just tagged on this other 50%.

That is the sledgehammer. Yeah. All right. (208) 542-1279 caller go ahead. You're on. I went to a, presentation by Ben Furman. Was very quote unquote unbiased. Yeah. And, I thought it was fantastic how he demonstrated, the the race between Brian Smith, Wendy Harmon and Sean Coletti. He seemed very excited at the end of it, like, and with regard to his goals, which Sean Cleary would have won, and I think the, it was lost to the crowd that was there.

But, I mean, he the writing's all over the wall on, what you're going to get. Okay. I, I, I appreciate that I number one, I don't think that's actually accurate. If I'm going to be totally honest, if I look at the dynamics of that race, I think Coletti hit his ceiling. Wendy Herman got mid-forties, 43, I think 43 or 44.

And Brian Smith was 25 or 26. I think there would have been enough Brian Smith second choices going to Wendy that that would have put her over the top. I, I don't think I do find it. I mean, again, we have to be careful because it's a second hand account. We weren't there. Yeah, yeah. All right. Let's go back to the phones.

285421079 Caller go ahead. Yes, I'm a precinct committeeman in Jefferson County, and I had an opportunity to sit in on a presentation by Mr. Erickson here. So last about a month ago, and he handed out some information on a specifically how that Alaska election took place. And it was absolutely terrifying, because if you go through the different iterations, you know, the first count of ballots, the second count of ballots, and the third kind of ballots where they throw out the bottom, you know, the bottom person in each one.

When you go from like the second to third iteration, there was about 15,000 fewer votes counted in the third iteration than in the second iteration. Yep. And that's when that's when the Democrat won. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely terrifying. I came out of there. And I mean, this was information presented to us that was supposed to convince us of his point of view.

Right? It was, you know, it had exactly the opposite effect. Yeah. I did want to throw up really quickly. I information is scarce on this. There is a secure Idaho elections.org that's been thrown together and these guys have done it's not a comprehensive all information you know package but it is pretty good stuff. And it specific on prop one ranked choice voting doesn't go into the other.

You know the other stuff that's involved. Yeah. But that that is out there and there's some guys I think there are folks up here in Jefferson County that have put it together. It's good information, especially where we're kind of struggling to find, you know, information on it. Yeah okay. Secure Idaho elections.org. That's the website. Yep. Just all all one word spelled just like it, you know okay.

Should just secure secure Idaho elections.org. Okay. Great. Thank you for the call I appreciate it. Yeah. The more I learn about that Alaska race it it's it's super sad it was those spoiled or exhausted ballots of Nick Begich that cleared the way for Paul Tola to win that race. It's 932. Back to the.

Okay, okay. Do you need to talk to me? No. Okay. No, no. So someone said nobody's going to watch it. If it's 40 minutes, it has to be 15 minutes. Like, well, I don't that's not what the. I mean, Matt Walsh has 90 minute documentaries in there. Stellar. Least successful. So I don't I don't I mean I know what he's saying from a social media standpoint and there should be shorter, shareable content.

I, I can understand that, but. Well, it is what it is. You could also do a couple of things. You could, you already have it broken into segments. True. You can tell people in segment one, this is if you're looking for something to talk about with this, go to segment one. If you're looking for this, go to segment two.

If you're looking for this like there can be, a break down so that you can actually skip to a portion of the the documentary and find the exact nugget you're looking for. Like maybe your neighbors been asking you about the Alaska race. Go here to get it. It's in segment four. Like that's true. And and, you know how you can timestamp different segments of a YouTube video?

I'll do that to show totally can be done. Yeah. So you don't have to commit the neighbor to sitting and watching all 40 minutes. You can say, remember how we were talking about the cost of it? Yeah, well, here it is. Or remember how we were talking about how how much Alaska doesn't want it. Here's why. And you can go to that segment.

Yeah. You know, it's interesting that Hyrum would even bring up the Alaska race. Because if people look at that, that I think more people would say, I don't want that in Idaho than would would do it. So that's a weird thing to bring up. It is weird. I there's so much weirdness to this, but it really doesn't match my personality.

This this proposition doesn't match my personality. And here's why I don't want you in my frickin business. I don't want you telling me what to do with my vote. Yeah, I'm going to go find information. I don't need you telling me I need to break my vote up into four spots. Yeah, I also don't need government any more involved in my life than they already are.

Yeah, and this proposition feels like it is. They've got a scalpel. And like that colonoscopy tube. And I'm like, get off of me. Yeah. I don't need you telling me how to do stuff, and I don't need you claiming victimhood. I don't need you. The poor people who can't vote, they can vote. That's just a lie. And guess what?

It's not my problem, right? They made their choice. Don't need to take care of an independent. It is not my job. Yeah, you take care of yourself. I'll take care of myself. And both of us shouldn't want government involved in any of it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. John, do your timberline here. Sure. Or we can do it whenever.

I just got to do over the next. I've got to do three more. So. Oh, oh this week. No, no, no. Over the rest of the month. Oh. Gotcha. Okay. So let's do right here okay. Might as well. And then I'll take a quick break and then a Catherine has a report for me that I got to go check up.

She doesn't like. Hey, look, these people like you, they don't care if you say I'm going to the bathroom. You guys all know it's just they're just the ongoing funny joke. I do have to ask Facebook, though. We've upgraded our cameras, and I just want to know if you can tell. Does the video look better? Is it noticeably better?

Does anybody said anything? It is on my side because. Because I'm not in it. I'm just kidding. No no no no I mean on my side of the screen like like oh from what they're seeing. Yeah. On my visual. Oh yes. Okay. It is so clear. Yeah. Anyway, I'd love to hear from Facebook if you've noticed. And if it's, if it's better.

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And I'll see if you're in it. You're in it. You're in the.

Okay. Paddling down, you and I need to have a talk. I have Matt. I have all of the control when it comes to Facebook. All of it. Nield has nothing to do with this. It's me. And I feel like you and I have a good relationship. If you're going to come in here, I need you to be honest with your arguments.

I don't mind that you you push back against our listeners. I actually really like it because I feel like, we need tested, if we're going to be strong conservatives, we need to test ourselves. But I also can make it all go away. So I need you to be honest with your arguments, or else I'll just stop the conversation from happening.

How's that? And how's everyone doing today? Currently freezing right now. And we have an internal fight, as almost all offices do. But we definitely have an internal fight that goes on here. The radio stations overheat. And when Neal and I moved to the new studio, it's notoriously known as the Cold Studio. I even have my heater on right now, and I'm freezing, so I don't know what I'm going to do.

I'm going to start wearing my parka coat. I'm going to like the sleeping bag coat that you might see me in. And on Friday, that might be the constant view in this camera because I'm freezing and I feel like the, the, the temperature argument in offices that women get blamed for it all the time. And maybe that's accurate on a whole.

Maybe it's always women that are blocking it, or that are like changing the, the, the thermostat or whatever. That's probably true. It is probably women who change it more often. That's not the case here at all. I am the only female on this side of the building, and I never touch it. I never touch the thermostat. It's a little chilly in here.

It is. I'm freezing again. Oh, yeah. We have the thermostat battle here. Part of the problem is some studios are little. Some are big. Yeah, and some have exterior walls. That's. Ours has two exterior walls. So it every situation. So one thermostat setting for all the studios just isn't all that great. Yeah. It says 71, I don't think.

I think it's cooler in that I know it's a 70 and, Oh, it was 71. It it just. Yeah, it, drop and I like it. I and I have it on high over here. Yeah, I have my little heater on high. Yeah, I think it. Did you ever hear back in text. So this will be the fourth time.

If we reschedule. It will be the fourth time. Peter, we are thinking about putting a mini split in. That's actually. Yeah, that's on the the docket. Yeah. Because the, the studios really need their individual. Yeah. I and I have my electric blanket. Somebody said we need to get Julie's Snuggie. I have my electric blanket that people gave me for my 50th.

It's at my house, so maybe I need to bring it here.

I will say that about Neal. Stephanie says men don't seem to notice the cold nearly as much. Neal is that man. It can be 68. In here and it's tolerable for him. It can also be 78 in here. And it's tall liberal for him. Yeah. Like he just he has a much wider range. If it drops below about 72 in here, it's like my hands start freezing.

My nose is running. Yeah.

944 on Newstalk 109 fall River propane. Colin text line is 208542107. You know what? Let's do some kind of fun, Julie. Okay. I mean, I know, I know, I know, it's fun, but a little bit I'm curious because you and I, I mean, I'm vacillating on the prop one whether it's going to fail, whether it's going to pass.

You're a little more pessimistic. You're starting to think it's going to be dynamic. It's going to be a wide margin. 52, 48, 51, 49 I think that's what it's going to be. I want to know what our audience thinks. So I'm going to take this phone call and then we'll do a flagpole okay? Okay. All right. Caller go ahead.

My I live here in Idaho Falls, and I was listening to your program today. I listen to you every day. I learned so much. I feel differently about the the, Kamala Harris sign. The idiot sign. I think it's beneath us. And it doesn't bring me any joy to see it. Thanks. So much for everything you do.

Okay. Thank you for the call. I think that's a fair opinion. I totally think that's a therapist. You know what? I look at it, too, and I think generally not a fan of that, that kind of language. And I'll follow it up with a but when you look at everything that they've thrown at Trump and the way Trump supporters get characterized, the way conservatives get characterized, I kind of feel like anybody can have any reaction they want to in this environment, because how how is that when one side drops all rules of civility?

It used to be that we were fairly polite, you know, things would get a little rough and tumble. They don't do that anymore. They they call us fascists. They call us white supremacists or whatever. It is. All all the things. I'm probably not going to get worked up if somebody out there decides they're going to punch back a little bit and call Kamala Harris an idiot, I won't defend it, but I understand it and I'm not going to judge it.

Yeah, I would, I it wouldn't be a sign I would put in my yard that would never come from. Yeah, something that I would be generating shame. But I also I get why people are there. I mean, she conducted an interview with Bret Baer yesterday where she called Trump unstable and unhinged. Her words, not mine. Yeah, that's the kind of rhetoric that's being thrown back and forth in this race.

And I get why you don't want to say it, but I'm not going to judge somebody who's going to respond in kind. Yeah. No. Agreed. All right. We have a few minutes here. We're opening up the phone lines. If prop one, if the election were held today. I'm not asking you. Are you for it or against it?

I know most of our audience is probably against it, but how do you feel, how it's going to pass? Do you think it's going to pass, or do you think it's going to fail based on conversations, based on the number of signs you've seen, based on just your overall, the force that your Jedi, the force. I'm just curious where you're at, and we got phone lines are full now, so let's go.

Caller, how do you think prop one is going to turn out? Go ahead.

Okay. We're going to go to our next caller. Caller go ahead. How do you think prop one will turn out? Well, you know I'm a little worried because Kamala shouldn't be as high up as she is against Trump right now. So yeah, there's just too many people that are not informed. And, you know, can I break the two call rule and call back after the flagpole?

Yeah. That's fine to call you before. Yeah. No problem. All right. Thank you. (208) 542-1079. How do you think prop one turns out? Caller.

Unfortunately, I think it's going to pass. I think it's going to pass by a big margin. A lot of people out there don't understand that. Okay. Thank you for the call. Let's go to the next. It's the low information voter. Yeah. Go ahead. Caller how do you think it'll do? I think it's going to fail. Okay. Do you think it's going to voice two diametrically opposed callers?

No hesitation there. Caller. It is a pass or fail. It will pass based on just sheer the amount of money being spent to support it and the volume of support lines that are out there right now. That's how I see it. I think it'll be close, but it will pass based on the money being spent from outside sources.

Okay. All right. Thank you for the call. That's pretty levelheaded analysis. It is. And when I, I do joke that I'm a cynic. I joke about that all the time. But I am when I say that. I think it's going to be very close. And then I think it is going to pass. I'm being very just objective with that.

Sure, I'm not showing bitterness towards one side or I. I actually do wish we would have done a couple of things different on the, the opposing of prop one. I feel like we kind of entered the game a little late. I don't love some of the imaging that we've put out there, but we're also battling massive amounts of dark money.

That's a hard fought battle. You're also just you're battling basic psychology here. People like to vote yes on things. Yeah, they want to. It's just natural. Especially around a really good idea. Yes. And so we're battling some things that that are just human nature. And I'm taking those things into account when I say I think it barely passes.

All right. (208) 542-1079 and it's the fall River propane call and text line. We're asking you today to reach down into your spidey senses. How do you feel prop one is going to fare on the ballot? Caller go ahead. River propane. I'm afraid it's going to, I presume to fire in the mail. You say that return open primaries.

Idaho, which we already have open primaries. It's just you have to the jurors what you want to vote for. Yeah, but I'm afraid too many people are just totally uninformed. They have no clue. All right. And there's also the the amendment on the ballot, which you do want to vote yes for, which is for only citizens can vote.

Yeah. So I think they're going to get confused. The issue. Yeah. Agreed. That's I think, problematic. I almost wish this constitutional amendment could wait a year or two because I, I, I it's conflated and it's easily conflated that and the constitutional amendment is listed first. So you're voting yes on that. Then the prop proposition one is listed second.

Yeah. And I think we kind of are like oh yes. Yes. You know, you Jim, you just move on. You don't really pay enough attention. Let's go to our next caller. Yes, sir. How do you how do you feel the, prop one vote is going to go? Caller we're 19 days away.

I hope it fails. Well, I know, but how do you think it's going to turn out?

Oh, come off. Oh, okay. And hung up. Okay, so the question is how do you think it will turn out? Not how do you hope, but how do you think (208) 542-1079 we've received a couple of texts from people that are saying they're a little, TSD would be the phrase I would use from Medicaid expansion. Yeah.

In their minds, it was so clearly a bad idea that passed. Anyway that they think, why is this one going to be any different? Yeah. So, I don't I don't disagree with that. I think we're all a little twitchy from that. I will say there is one thing that's, very, very different. I don't know if it changes it, but Donald Trump's name will be on the ballot.

Yes. This is a chance for Idahoans to vote up in mass and cast their vote for Donald Trump, which we are a big Trump state. I mean, we're at 60 plus percent in favor of Trump. I think that is makes it a little more uphill for the prop one people. So I that's a that's a a little point of optimism here.

Yeah. And I have a very valid point. It's it's not like you're just reaching for something there that's gonna make a difference. Someone said we're working very hard to defeat it. We'll defeat this. If not, we need to barrage our legislators, urging them to repeal it. We have Labrador's potential lawsuit, so we need to keep praying and working.

Yeah, that that's true. And if it passes, I. I don't want everyone down in the mouth because we have some we have a number of cards left to play on this. So. Yeah. I think you know what? That flier from Bruce Nukem. If I were a lawmaker, I'd be like, this is all the justification I need to repeal this thing.

Yeah. He lied. Yeah. They've all the way through. Yeah. Okay. (208) 542-1079. You know what long term discussion we need to have after this, getting rid of the voter initiative. Oh, I would love to have that go away. I know there's a big push, that it's the one way for voters to speak. It actually isn't. Yeah. No. All right.

Last call. Carl, what do you say? How are you feeling about prop one? Oh, I'm worried that it's going to be really close. I'm afraid it's going to actually pass, but I'm hoping it's not going to. But. Okay. You're worried it might, but the biggest thing is, is, Like, Julie, I have PTSD, too. I'm, pretty tired of silly Democrats, so.

Yeah. All right, thank you for the call. And we actually have one more caller real quick. We just got a few seconds. How do you think it's going to turn out? I think it'll fail. Okay. All right. Mixed bag here today. Yeah yeah I like I appreciate the optimism. 954 we'll be back. Okay okay Peter I'm going to try to effectively answer your question and please jump in Neal here okay.

How many rounds of voting is there in ranked choice voting okay. That depends upon the race in the way that it's written. In Idaho, you have the capability of four people surviving the jungle primary or the open primary and moving on to the November election. That doesn't mean there will always be four. So then let's let's let's pretend it's four.

You're gonna have four people move on. They're going to count the initial round, then they're going to drop off the person who got the least amount of votes. Then they're going to look at all of the ballots and see who didn't complete the ballot completely, who didn't fill in all four spots. Then they take all of those people and they throw those ballots out.

So you've lost the bottom candidate and you've lost all the ballots that didn't weren't completed. They're now exhausted. Then you go and you count again. So now you have three candidates and you count again. If in that round nobody reaches a solid 50%, they then drop off the lowest person and they will count one more time. Yeah. So I can't say there's four rounds because they're a little bit different in the way that they're counted.

Yeah. Well at most you could have three rounds. At most you could have three rounds. Yeah. So it and it's very confusing. In some races we only have three candidates or actually some races we'll probably only have two. Yeah. It just depends on the race. Yeah. Yeah I'm tired I maybe the only thing maybe the only thing that really like personally graded me from Hiram Erickson's interview yesterday is I think it is so condescending to even try to argue that this is not a complicated system.

Yeah, it's so condescending because even Hiram can't explain every part of it. Yeah, but then he'll turn right around and tell me to lie. It's simple. Yeah, that's that's pretty condescending. Well, I it's, it's an elitist attitude. Like, they know what has to happen to count these votes is kind of complicated, but the average voter doesn't need to worry about that.

We can. It's like we take care of you. You just need to show up and count to four and we'll do the rest. And so it it is this elitist attitude when I, when I feel like every voter ought to be able to go in, count their vote, know how they get compiled and tallied. It shouldn't be complicated at all.

So they can say my vote got counted. In a ranked choice voting environment you have to really think through the issue to go. Did my vote get counted? Especially if if you have a second and a third and a fourth choice you're like how did how did that happen. Your first round. You're like, oh yeah, I know that vote got counted.

But if it if it, if it goes beyond that, then it starts to get a little murky. Like what happened to those rankings and where you can figure it out. I'm not saying you can't, but I think most people, the fact that people continue to have questions and continue to have confusion is proof that it's not just this really simple, straightforward system.

Yeah, there's so many hypocritical things back and forth with this system of the expectation on the one part of it, and then the expectation on the other that we could just line out forever. Yeah. All right. 958 not, boy, we've got a lot of texts and I want to thank everyone for your calls. And that's going to do it for our show today.

I do want to remind everyone, please spend a little time with us tomorrow afternoon. We will be at Wealth of Health between 1 and 230. We'll have no signs to handout on prop one, and we'll do a little rubbing elbows and shoulders and and chatting. Plus our some of our elected leaders will be there. We're excited to see you.

See you tomorrow.