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10.16.2024 -- NLS -- "Ranked Choice Voting: Hidden Complexity and Open Primaries Debate"

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 On this episode of the Neal Larson Show, Neal and Julie tackled the controversial topic of ranked choice voting and open primaries. Neal expressed his frustration, especially when he mentioned that ranked choice voting is confusing, only for it to be downplayed. Both hosts questioned why proponents of these changes heavily emphasize open primaries while avoiding deeper discussions about ranked choice voting, suggesting it might be because it’s more complex than they want voters to realize. 

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You I am. This is completely opposite of what we're talking about. That proposed expressway. Yeah. Given week. Sunny side traffic. So much lighter. That's why I'm excited for it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I didn't even read about that. But what are they? Is it my idea? Basically. What? Now, where would it come? What is the route? It cuts off at that Shelley exit.

So. And then goes. Wait, Shelley or Dad's? I said, Shelley, that we're saying the same thing. Your dad's. Is this clear down? I'm saying the the Yellowstone Highway and going to Shelley. Okay, so it's the same I just yes. Yeah. So same place comes off there and circles around clear till it connects to 25th. So it connects to hit and then they'll connect it to Crowley also.

Okay. So if I'm trying to get Iona, it might actually be faster to take the expressway. Oh yeah. Like if I'm coming from Salt Lake, are they just studying it now? Are they going to do it? The mind of a metropolitan planning organization is hosting an open house on October 15th to help shape the future of traffic across greater at All falls, including discussing a potential expressway south of 65th South.

So it's, like it's in the planning stages. Good. Okay, this is there. It's see? Hiram. Shifty. Oh, absolutely. On. Hold on and good morning, Julie. Today we're talking off air and here we are. You're probably going where are they? Where are they? We were talking about the idea for the new expressway that they're going to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I'm so glad that they've listened to this show before because I've been saying you've been saying to do this, they need to have a loop that goes into the, you know, hit road from anyway.

So it sounds like they're excited about that, that they're, they're looking at planning this, looking at something similar to that. So oh okay. Julie. I guess summarize. Well, we're I'm not going to I'm not going to shred here. Mary. He's not not on the air with this anymore. But I will tell you, that was a bit of a frustrating interview.

Here's what I'm actually not that frustrated. I, I my one frustration point is when I said ranked choice voting is confusing, and he basically told me it wasn't. Well, I think that, that's fun for anyone who's voting for prop one. To say it is confusing. Ask Alaskans. It's confusing. It's not a Julie thing. It's a voter thing.

Yeah. Yes. So I just want to point that one out. That is not a Julie thing. It's a voter thing. It is confusing. The ranked choice voting portion is confusing. Well, and I think the portion to where he's saying the long ballot title, which was written by the Attorney General's office, is not reflective of what's in the statute.

And I would say it's not reflective of the part of the statute he read where it does talk about a candidate packet, and you can identify with a party. And if you do, you can't say you're from another party. All right. So you are you're tied to what you say in the candidate packet. But it doesn't appear to be there's there's no method of actually figuring out if you're being honest in your candidate packet.

So if you're going to lie, it'll just happen earlier. I guess you have to lie earlier and he doesn't think anybody will lie. And I'm like, absolutely the lie in Idaho. Well, that's the point that we made when we mentioned that Jim Jones has been advocating for this for several years now for people to lie, you basically took a small gate and said, here, lie this way, and got rid of the whole gate and the fence and said, everyone lie.

Yes. With proposition one, you're encouraging everyone to lie. Yeah, I well, yeah you are. Here's what I don't what I don't understand. And I guess it requires decency, right. It it requires decency in Idaho, the only viable party is the Republican Party. It is if you look at the numbers of the legislature, the imbalance that's there, all the statewide offices and the it's been this way for 20 years.

They're all Republican. So there there is an imbalance. Republican party is the only viable party in Idaho. But that's not their fault. And they shouldn't be penalized for that by basically saying, well, the only election that matters is in May. It's not that November is now just a formality. That's still not the Republican Party's fault. And so if you had viable competing parties and there's a very good reason why we have a two party system, you have to build a coalition to get to 50%.

And so Ronald Reagan called it a big tent that you want a party big enough and appealing enough to get to 50%, right? Yes. Because you that in democracy there's actually a math lesson here. You don't you can only fit 50% twice in 100% of the electorate. So you're building a party to get to that, to that 50%.

The fact that the Democrats can't do that, haven't done that, can't provide an alternative is not the Republican Party's problem. It's not. And, and it even though in independent voters can be a little frustrated, they're choosing to be independent now, I think it's disingenuous for them to join the party just so they can vote. And, and I think come up with better candidates, improve your party, improve your messaging, make it more appealing.

Don't don't try to tear down and take away, something that is inherent in a party's ability to choose their own nominee. I also think it's disingenuous to have one of the coauthors or crafters of this pop proposition. Todd Achilles, in a video, say the purpose of the proposition is to get more moderate candidates elected. And then when you're now, giving an interview or trying to extoll the virtues of this proposition, you're just saying we want everyone to vote no.

The purpose is to get more moderate candidates elected. Not my words, their words. Which means we have to blow up the primary process to get those people in. And then we have to add the ranked choice voting part that we don't want to talk about. We don't ever want to talk about it because it's so ugly. Let's not mention it in commercials.

Let's not put it on the fliers. We don't want to talk about it, but we have to have that other piece to keep pushing forward. Those more moderate candidates. Yeah, that's their I'm not saying I'm not assigning motives to them that's not in existence. Yeah. Look at their mailers. Look at their commercials. They don't mention ranked choice voting.

Look at their big banners. All it talks about is open primaries. I am all I'm doing is saying, read the room, people. If they're hiding the ranked choice voting part. But they had to have it to get those moderate candidates. They're the ones embarrassed of what they've done. You know, I would respect them more, Julie, if they had called this not the ranked choice voting initiative.

They're not going to because they know everyone who looks at it goes, that seems unnecessarily complicated. If they had just called it election reform or election improvement or whatever, that would have been far closer to the truth. It would have been more honest. Yes, because I don't think they're acknowledging now. It has to say it in the proposition, because that's what they're trying to accomplish.

And thankfully they have to be transparent in the fine print. It's sort of weird, but they have to be transparent in the fine print if they want to actually have it. Have teeth in Idaho. So when you read that, what you realize is they're taking a wrecking ball to our, our election system. They're, they're, they're wiping it clean and they're clearing it out and they're putting in something very, very different.

That is not a they would acknowledge it if you press them. They don't actually want people to know that though. Then there's been an active effort to distract people from that fact that this is a complete obliteration of what we have right now. If it was a slight tweak, a couple of things wouldn't be required, which is a, 25 to $40 million price tag.

That wouldn't be part of it. Extensive training for your county offices to now run these, elect these elections and count them. That's where the extensive training is going to come in. And then the third thing, they're going to actually spend money on training voters how to understand the system. Yeah. If it wasn't a wrecking ball, you wouldn't have to spend money to train voters on how to understand it.

That's true. In the voter guide, they said voting is as simple as counting to four. You don't have to spend $2 million to teach people to count to three. Nope. You wouldn't. So they're they're not being honest. Yeah. About this proposition that bothers me as much as anything. The price tag bothers me. The lack of honesty bothers me.

And your unwillingness to stand up for half of the proposition. Yeah. All you want to do is talk about open primaries. If it is so good, you should be able to brag nonstop about the ranked choice voting part. Yet you don't even want to mention it because you're embarrassed about it because it's a cheat. Yeah, yeah it is.

And and I think they know it, but they've been doing it so long, they they've stopped recognizing how dishonest and disingenuous it's been. All right. 2.542 179 let's go. Let's just go right to the phones. Hi, caller. How are you today? Good, good. What's up? Well, my opinion, this guy sounded like some kind of wingnut crazy guy, to talk out of both sides of his mouth and all this, but, you know, he can affiliate with the party, but the parties don't have to play with him.

And you got to do this and do that. Every other answer. Contradiction. So I think. Yeah. Well, that's the thing is, and I, we try to ask questions that get down to those contradictions. And I think he struggles a little bit with some of the answers that, that we either to the questions that we gave him. Yeah.

You mentioned we talked to Kamala. He's about the same way. Yeah. Okay. Well, thank you for the call. 285421079 someone said, let's see, they proposition one, they DoorDash, they talked to the kids collecting signatures. They really had no idea what was in prop one. I pray that it will not pass, but I'm worried about the voters in the Boise area.

So it could be. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and the Boise areas, not the only that's not the only part of the state that has a little bit of flavor of the left. So yeah, it's just the most populous part of the state that has a little bit of flavor of the left. Yeah. You know, I, mentioned how frustrated I was with an Idaho Statesman headline that says All Idahoans deserve a chance to vote in the primary.

This initiative would let them. And I think that that right there is every Idaho in at least that they're referencing already has a chance to vote in the primary. I, I, I just, I can't, I know I get hung up on this but how do they, how do they just lie so easily. I don't know. It's, it's complete dishonesty and they do it I, I don't think Hiren thinks he's lying when he says that.

But when you say they're blocked they're not blocked. No. They're making a choice. They made a choice. Yeah. Guess what? A felon doesn't get to vote, right? They're blocked. They're blocked. But it was by choice. Yes. Block means you can't. Yes. And so I, I it is really hard to accept the language except the, the headlines accept that they, they're going to victimize groups when there is no victim ization happening.

Yeah. And I got to say it again and then not talk about the ranked choice voting part at all. Hide it, hide it, hide it. Yeah. It's what they've been instructed. Yes. Yeah. Well it. Yeah. Also Julie one more thing. We have callers. We have people who really want they want to weigh in. Yeah. So and I'll get to that in just a moment.

But I want to read this is their language. This isn't what the attorney general put on I. But I think this is the reason why the attorney general wrote what he wrote. Ballots for top four primary election chalet style candidates who've qualified pursuant to section 34 704, a Idaho code, after each candidate's named the ballot shall include that candidate's indicated party affiliation, if any, and the ballot shall contain a disclaimer informing the voter that a candidate's designated affiliation does not imply that the candidate is nominated or endorsed by the political party or group that the party or group approves of, or associates with that candidate.

We want to blow up the system so much that we have to put a disclaimer on there saying, yeah, it did. It might have an R behind their name, but they're not really an R. Yeah, let me write it. But let me finish what this says. It says is nominated or endorsed by the political party or group, or that the party or group approves of or associates with the candidate, but only that the candidate is registered as affiliated with the political party or political group.

So if you go back, they can register with a party. That doesn't mean they affiliate or associate with the party. We got three words here Register, affiliate are an associate. I think affiliate and associate are pretty much interchangeable. Register with is is different okay, I can register with a group but not really associate with them. There's lots of people who are members of churches and don't go, yes, they've been baptized members of a church.

That doesn't mean they're part of them. Yeah. Or that they live the standards or that they they believe in what the church has. Yeah, but but here's another thing. And again, I want to say this lightly, the way Hyrum presented it, because we wanted clarity, the way Hiram presented it was basically he didn't say this, but there was this inference that the attorney general put false information in the long ballot title, when in reality, there's a couple of different places in the long, small print of this, of this proposition that there seems to be kind of a contradiction there.

Now, there's not, because you can get really legal and you get into the minutia about it, and you can see how they've they've woven this, part. But I feel like full disclosure would have been I think the attorney general was probably referring to this passage here, where it does talk about how the candidates can say they affiliate with any party simply by registering, but they also have to include the language.

And I think they did that to pass constitutional muster, to put in the disclaimer that that doesn't mean the party's good with it or that the party endorses them or whatever, because I, I feel like people sign the petitions here and they're going to pass it if they vote yes. That's what they're agreeing to. If they vote yes on that.

Right. So I agree that the, the, the disclaimer is probably put in there so it can pass constitutional muster. Yeah. Okay. Let's go. To the phones. Caller. Welcome to the show. I just, tuned in. And so isn't the Republican Party a private like entity? Yes. So why do we have to let anybody else in that we don't want in number one?

But then if it's our private party, then we cannot allow someone to put it behind their name, can't we? Well, that I think that may be a court issue if this thing passes, I, if I were the party, I would file that lawsuit and say, look, if you're going to force us then to not be able to choose our own nominee, then we can say, and it should be effective on the ballot, the candidate that we actually believe is the candidate and the nominee or the we, the the idea of nominee goes out the window, but they can indicate who their preferred candidate is.

Will we be able to as a Republican, wouldn't we be able to to limit the number of, of representatives to one in any given race? That should be what happens. Yes. Because what the what what were the kingmakers? Well, not not in the state, but as far as the Republican Party were the kingmaker, of who, who who holds the.

Yes. And if we don't want to let out too, then we don't have to, because we're a private entity. Nobody can force us to do that. Or my crazy. I do think there is an argument there. You can't keep anybody off the ballot if they're one of the top four there. Their name is going to be on the ballot.

I think there might be a court case in in that November ballot. Who can actually say they're a Republican. And that might be dictated by who the Republican Party, agrees to associate with. So can can we limit affiliation? In what direction? Well, let's just say, oh, somebody wants to register with the party. Gotcha. Yeah. And we can we just say no, like, like like Hyrum.

Would there be any reason to letting him register as a Republican or join the Republican Party? I guess I can see none. Well, it's not just that he's registered Republican or joined the party. He's actually a precinct officer in Madison County. He's already an elected Republican. So that they we're past that point. So. Well, then maybe he needs to be removed.

Well, somebody can they could run against him. Well, can't the Republican Party kick him out? No, no, no, not according to the rules. He got elected. Oh that's who won. So no. Now they can they can encourage and help someone who wants to run against him. But I don't think they could kick him out based on. Hey, look, I'm going to tell you something.

Hiram's not the only one. He's not the outlier here. You have a number of precinct Republicans that are going to vote for prop one. I can I can name one. It's on the tip of my tongue. I'm not going to. But it was a very high profile. He put it out last night that he's voting yes on it.

It was it was public on a social media account. And it's a precinct officer in Bonneville County. So they were able to infiltrate the party, and then there's no way to purge the party? Well, there is. I don't know if I'd call it purge, but there is a way that you can win this when you get good people to run, for these these.

Right. It's exactly what Trent Clarke did with with that whole group. They got people to run, they got money, they got they ran campaigns. That's how we we win these things. So I don't know if purge is the right is the right word here. And I think, approaching it as a purge is what has harmed us.

It's what open the door for this to happen in the first place. So I think we just need to defeat them. Right. Well, I agree, but here we are now, I, I know here we are. You're right, you're right. Thank you for the call. (208) 542-1079. Let's go back to the phones. Hi, caller. Oh, hi. How are you today?

I think one of the biggest things is it, talks to me about this problem. And the people who support it is this they claim that there's approximately 250,000 people that are more or less disenfranchized. I don't look at it that way. I look at it is that 250,000, they're the ones who need to get out and exercise their right to exercise their vote.

Now, some of that 250,000, maybe illegals, maybe people who are stripped of the right to vote due to legal reasons. But the one man, one vote is the only way to go. Yeah. Agreed, agreed. And and thank you for the call. I, I think we need a little bit of a paradigm shift here. The primaries don't belong to the people.

The primaries belong to the parties. And even though they're taxpayer funded, the it it's a taxpayer funding mechanism. So any recognized party in Idaho can conduct their nominee selection. That's how it's been set up and that's how it's been. And quite frankly I think it works pretty well. Any party can do this in Idaho okay. Let me state that again.

Any party any eligible voter can vote in any primary that they want to. There are different requirements for different parties. The Democrats are open. They say come vote in ours. The Republicans in a concern over crossover voting because their brand is so valuable and effective in Idaho. They've said we can't just have it be a free for all.

So they have rules that are in place that are well-established in the courts. They are certainly precedented all over the country and that is what they are. So this idea that you hear people saying, no primary elections are for the people. No they're not. Primary elections are a privilege that voters can vote in in and show up and and choose a nominee for the fight later on in November.

That's what May is for. And, so we're we're conflating our right to vote in November with something that happens in May that looks like it, but it isn't the same thing in its nature. I love that you explained that, because I think that that confusion exists, not purposely. It's just the way people think about it. We have two elections.

No, what you have is a determination of who's going to represent a party. Yes. And you do it via an election. Yeah, we could do you could do it another way. You could do a caucus. I mean, there's other things, another way to do it. But currently we do it via election. The real election happens in November. Yes.

The the primary is just establishing the representative from the party. Yeah. That will then advance on to the election in November. I, I cannot understand Julie White any Republican, much less elected Republican could be for this. Yeah. It is masochistic if you're a Republican to be for proposition one. You are you are self-harming. If you are for proposition one and you are a Republican, right.

Let's answer this question. Somebody sent in a text that said, so how do we, as the party, choose our candidate if the primary is open to everyone? You don't. That's the point. Yeah, that's the point here. Yeah. They want to blow up the system and have the people who advance to the November election be done. Completely different.

Yeah. There. Well, they had to, they had to do this because under current Idaho law, parties have standing that they're recognized as an official group that gets to have a nominee on the ballot. And because of that, there was no way around this other than to take a nuclear bomb to our system, blow it up and make open primaries.

So what, you consider having your Republicans find the what you think is what the constituents want, the the candidate for the November election. It's completely different now. Yeah. Let's go back to the phones. We got to take a break soon. But caller go ahead. You know, I'm I'm with you on this one thing, Neal, when you said that, how they represent it and how they present it is so dishonest.

Like when they say everybody deserves the right to vote. Well, that's not what it's about. Just like I remember back when they started the right to work. Well, everybody deserves the right to work. Well, that's not what it was about. Yeah, that's true, but that's the way they do it. But they they're so dishonest about how they present it.

Yeah. That my my little mother in law, you know, she's 80 years old back then. And she said, well, yes, everybody deserves the right to work. Yeah I know and it is it, it is a it's really kind of a lie if you want to look at it. Yeah. It, it in that way. Sure it is. So. All right.

Well thank you for the call. We we've got to take a break here. We'll come back and continue. Who's paying for all these TV ads? They are everywhere. They're everywhere right now. They are everywhere. Dark money out of Idaho. Yeah. Oh, right. Right. Oh, it's Tony ground.

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Do. It's 845 on Newstalk now. It's 846 fake news. It just turned to 846 on Newstalk 179. Neal Larson along with Julie Mason. So, Julie, I've seen some stuff on social media, about where different lawmakers stand on this. People want to know, I think they have a right to know where where the lawmakers stand. And so, one of them was, well, two well, we'll just do two right now.

Josh Wheeler and Ben Furman. Ben Furman, of course, won the primary. And I don't think he's opposed in November. So he'll go on to to serve in the in the legislature. But Josh Wheeler is a sitting member of the Idaho Legislative session. We asked him this very question, and here's what he said about it. I am disappointed that is not Josh Wheeler, but, this is do you support ranked choice voting?

I have to hide my terrible poker face when you ask this question, but I mean, honestly, no, I don't want to see it come to the state of Idaho. It's on that. Well, I don't know if it did it make it on the initiative yet? Do they get it now? They're close. They're really close there. Really. They got another month almost.

So like if it didn't make it I would be fine if it didn't show up. If it shows up on the ballot, then we'll wait and hear what the voters had to say about it. I personally would not be supportive of it. That's the second thing you need to talk to. Sean Caladiums. Well, again, the big tent might welcome multiple opinions.

Still like, okay, I gotcha. All right, so you're against it. You plan on voting no. Yeah okay. Josh Wheeler's a no. At least just prior to the May primary election, he was a no. He was this past spring, he was a no. That was April 16th. That interview was conducted. This is my interview with Ben Furman. I am disappointed.

And I've had this conversation with the leaders of I think it might be Reclaim Idaho. That's pushing this one again. Yeah. And I said I am not in any way, shape or form in support of ranked choice voting. I don't like it. I don't think it works. It's confusing. I like our system as it is. We get good people to run against candidates and let people choose, okay, he likes the system as it is, okay, I will say this in the interest of full disclosure because I failed to ask him the money question.

The the the most important question of all is how are you voting on this during that interview? Because we kind of got lot. He started talking about how he wanted the primaries to be open and I never got around to, how are you voting on this? To get clarification, a week or two ago, I messaged Ben and he did get back to me, and he's undecided.

He hasn't. He's conflicted. He doesn't really know. I mean, I would think in the interview when he says I like our system as it is, by logical extension, you would say I'm voting no on it. Am I wrong about that? Oh, no, I that's I don't think you're making an Evil Knievel leap there. Yeah, I'm saying it's it's like the, you know, the bike ramp that my son used to build when he was seven, and he'd jump off and he'd go like, three feet.

That's the leap you're making. It's not very far. So I don't have audio of our follow up communication because it was just Facebook messaging back and forth. And I said, do you plan on telling us, yeah. I said, your constituents and, and publicly saying where you stand on it. And his answer to that was probably, yeah.

So out of neutrality, there probably might be pro with commitment here. But it was, you know, he did say he probably would tell his voters, but he, he's in a struggle over it right now. You know, a Jewish dad is Santa Claus coming? Possibly. Probably. Maybe. Maybe because December 25th is happening November 5th. The election is happening.

Both of those days happen whether we want them to come or not. So maybe answer the question. One thing I do want to point out, and that is to the credit of both Wheeler and Furman, they have stated they will honor however the vote goes in their particular legislative district. They'll honor that. Aside from whatever their personal opinion is.

So that's they do their work. That's good. Yeah. In the legislature. So, yeah, we can say, oh, we got a number of interviews where it's very clear where, lawmakers stand. Kevin Cook is a hard no. Wendy. Wendy, Harmon is a hard no. We know where Barbie heart is on there. She's she's a hard no.

Dave Lentz against it. We know Rod Furnace is against it. He. Now, rod told you that both Gerald Raymond and Van Burton are against. Absolutely. Yep. I had much like you had a, text exchange with Ben Furman. I've had a text exchange with Rod Furnace and he said, yes, they are against it. Okay. The forces are aligning, hopefully.

I don't know. I said, I hope they're bold. I hope they're telling people this. Yeah. Oh, well, I hope it's not just, you know, the news is getting out here. I hope it's getting out in other channels as well. Yeah, yeah, I here's what's interesting, Julie, because the the legislature overwhelmingly voted to ban ranked choice voting a couple of years ago and or maybe it was year before last.

So almost two years ago, I if this thing does pass, though, it kind of changes how they approach this. So yeah. All right. It's 852. Although I do think they have all the bases they need to repeal it. But we'll be back. It's 852 on Newstalk 1079. And Denise.

And it's 856 on Newstalk 1079 Neal Larson, along with Julie Mason. So, Julie, we had a do we have a question about Rick Cheatham? Is that right? Yeah. Someone wanted to know if Rick Cheatham is voting yes or no on prop one. Well, here's how our interview with Rick Cheatham went back in late April. March 13th.

Okay, so many dated it. Weird. Here it is. Stand on this voter initiative. Are you for ranked choice voting or are you against it?

I think there's two issues here open primaries and ranked choice voting. I wish the initiative had separated those two things. I want open primaries, ranked choice voting. I've talked to a friend who lives in Alaska, who was in the political life in in eastern Idaho for a long time, he says. It's been a disaster up there. They ended up with a representative in Congress who absolutely would never have been elected without ranked choice body.

That one concerned me. But I definitely want open primaries. Okay, so I got right to the heart of the matter. The way it stands. I would probably vote for it because I want open primaries. I would bite my tongue. And I think this is true, Neal, of almost every bill, every day that we look at down here, they're parts of my love and part some that just stink.

And it just depends on how rancorous the odor is, whether I vote for or against. In this case, I would vote for it. Okay, okay. Do we know where Doug Ricks, John Weber, and Ray Boldt stand? I don't I don't know if we have any, like, card audio on it. Yeah. Man, I'd be surprised if I would be surprised if Doug Ricks was for this.

It would. Looking at his past and looking at the way that he wrote, he votes and I. It'd be pretty shocking for me to believe that Doug Rex is voting yes on Palin. Yeah. Wait. We can reach out. I think that, we we'd have a right to know. All right. It's 859 on Newstalk 179. That's going to do it for this hour.

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Welcome back. It is 907 on Newstalk 1079 Neal Larson along with Julie Mason. And if you'd like to reach us on the program (208) 542-1079. A lot of things going on. We have President Trump doing a town hall with Fox News, he's with Harris Faulkner, and we might we might catch a little bit of this. It's a little bit different than a press conference.

It's an exclusive Fox thing. So I don't think we can carry much of this, but we might eavesdrop on it, here and there. We if you have any residual thoughts about ranked choice voting, our interview with Hiram Erickson this morning, it was, spirited. Would that be a good a good way to say it? I think it always is.

When we talk to Hiram, I think it is spirited. He. We have strong opinions, and he has strong opinions. That's okay. Yeah. I I I will never, ever not give him credit for being the brave one. Yeah. Because Luke Melville and Todd Achilles are ducking any hard interview. So that's true. He always gets credit for that. Yeah, I will he's he's he's the one taking the arrows.

So again thanks to him and we have a fundamental difference in how we view this, this issue. So we have that going on. There's also lots of great audio. Julie, Donald Trump was talking with the Bloomberg Economic Forum. Yes, a bunch of business a business. And the influential business people in the in the room is what was going on.

Okay. This is what I don't understand. You have do you want to hear from Mark Cuban now? Okay, well, you hear Mark Cuban and Rachel Maddow. That's like a double whammy. It's so weird. You can play it, but it's also weird because they're doing a split screen. Mark's at his place. Rachel Maddow was on set. Yeah, they look too much alike in the in the split screen kind of do.

And it's a little creepy because Cuban had the earbuds in his ear, but they look like earrings. Case. And as haircuts a little similar to Rachel's, he's wearing the thick rimmed glasses. Yeah. Like what? What look are you going for here, Mark? I don't know, it's a little a little weird, but, yeah, one of the things that he said was that Elon Musk is the only business CEO that supports Trump.

And I thought, are you kidding me? That is so not true. It is not true. Did you hear the clip? No. I sent it to you. I didn't I didn't listen to it and listen it. Okay. That he is talking about for a second term. And what we saw in his first term when he picked out individual businesses or sometimes individual businesses leaders who he wanted to use the government to punish, when he went after Amazon and Jeff Bezos, when he went after saying he wanted to go after Mark Zuckerberg, when he did other things that were targeting businesses because of what were perceived to be his political interests, I would have thought that

that would have made him radioactive in the business world, because business people are too smart to think that they can always be on the right side of those calculations, right? That they won't ever be the one who's in the crosshairs. Once you've got somebody who uses the government that way to reward and punish his enemies and his friends, well, you don't hear a whole lot of CEOs other than Elon Musk, particularly of large companies, coming out and supporting him for that very reason.

You know, you don't hear them condemning him because they're worried about his retribution or his vengeance. But literally there's been nobody that I know other than Leon Elon that has come out in support of them. Okay. This is such a garbage take. Number one. It's not true. You've had major business leaders that have supported Trump. But if there's hesitation, it's not because they're afraid of Trump, and it's not because they're afraid of retribution from Trump.

They're afraid of they're the woke shareholders that may come after them. So they're like, I'm going to take a neutral stance on this. They want economically an America that Trump is much more capable of providing than anybody on the left is. Yeah, eight. I mean, I just I just did a quick search to see who is supporting him.

But while I'm pulling that up, JD Vance, as a business owner, right. It's his vice president. He was very successful as a business owner. Grandma Swamy yeah, right. Sorry. I didn't mean to steal your point. I mean, you don't know how I didn't even have to google anything to figure that one out. Come on. Mark. Yeah? What are you saying?

You're just outright lying. Now, if he's saying, like, the massively big, like Procter and Gamble or Coca-Cola or what? There might be some truth there, but not for the retribution piece. It might just be. It's not great for our PR and for our business, for me to make a big endorsement. I'm looking super quick here. There was a lukewarm endorsement by, JP Morgan.

This happened just a little bit ago. Yeah. You had people on the left going. That wasn't a true endorsement. It was. He voiced support of Trump's policies. He didn't say, I'm endorsing Trump. He said the policies that Trump is putting forward are the ones that will benefit America. So take that how you want substantively. Is that any different than an endorsement?

No, but that was the difference that the mainstream media, oh, sure, that they put out there. Okay. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. But go ahead. The same thing happened with Bank of America CEO Brian Monahan. He said, people say who are for or who are you for? Who are you against? That's not our job.

We try to help every administration through good advice. But he does say that Trump's policies focus on good, solid financial advice. So he again, lukewarm endorsement. Would the way that Trump is wanting to run the country will be beneficial financially for Americans. Yeah. Okay. So there's two right off the bat. I found it on one Google search.

You Julie, you sent me a clip, from CNBC this is Howard. Let Nick, he's a billionaire. And this is what he had to say about Trump's tariffs. And of course, it's a bargaining chip. We can sell a Ford or GM in Europe. You go to Europe, you can't sell a Ford, a GM. Why? There's 100% tariffs. How about in Japan?

100% tariffs. So do you think if we said we're going to tariff you the way you tariff us, do you think they're going to allow Mercedes and all these Japanese companies and Porsches and BMW to all of a sudden have 100% tariffs in America, of course, that they're going to come in, negotiate and their tariffs are going to come down.

And finally, Ford and General Motors have going to be able to sell in these places. How's that sound. And that's of course they're going to come down. Of course, this is just to go okay. So you know, there's Trump Derangement syndrome. There's tariff derangement syndrome right now. And we've even had callers who I think are otherwise conservative and freaking out about Trump's tariff position.

I'm like, you don't understand Trump one bit. Then, because Trump knows how to create the best negotiating position. And you do that by taking a real hard stance on something. And then these the your I wouldn't say opponent, but whoever you're negotiating with comes to the table softer they come ready to to do more. He's just it's just leveraging.

It's taking that power that he has as president to implement tariffs and then levering leveraging it for the most favorable outcome in the negotiation down the road. Yes. I it's it's so obvious to me. Well do you know what the problem is. This isn't the first time it's occurred in history. We've used this strategy prior to the last, the last few decades where Democrats were primarily in power.

Yeah. And when Democrats were primarily in power, all we've done is weak at the American economy. Yeah, yeah. So true. This is not it's not like Trump invented something brand new here. He's just a lot more vocal. And I'm okay with that. I want foreign entities to be a little nervous about America. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.

Yeah, well, I and I, I'm no Trump. I'm not trying to make comparison here, but I, I remember the first car I bought just on my own went to the and it was years ago. I was barely an adult at the time, but I remember some advice somebody gave me. They said, you go at the end of the month and you, you give them a completely unreasonable offer like so low.

And I'm like, okay, I'll try that. And no, it's going to be awkward. No, they're going to throw a fit. So I did that. I went and I, I'm not even going to tell you what kind of car it was because that's nobody's business. Which means it was a Subaru. But, you know, anyway, so I, I go to the lot and I, I said, I'll give you this much.

And the, the salesman was like, oh, we can't sell cars for that. We can't. I'm like, okay, that's fine, but here's my number. If you change your mind and I just leave, I'm like, I don't act like I really need the car or want the car or whatever. I was being very unreasonable. And I just said, here's, here's what I'll take for it.

And, I go home and sort of forgot about it. But a few hours later, the phone rings and I pick it up and, oh, hi, this is Bob down at the band. Down at the lot. I think we can get your price really close to what you said. Okay? You walk in being unreasonable and the room changes.

That's what Trump's doing with tariffs. Yeah. Stop having a freak out about it. It's not gonna turn out this disastrous way you think it is. Well, what they've done is that the Democrats in the mainstream media have turned him into such a boogeyman that no matter what he proposes, it's going to be the end of America. Yeah, that's the way they treat everything.

And so when when they're talking about tariffs, they act like it's the end of America. Well, it's never ended before. And we've used tariffs before. Yes we have. Yeah we're gonna be fine. Absolutely. And I know that there's been this discussion about Trump implementing across the board tariffs okay. He's not gonna just stop. He's not just trust him.

We know his M.O.. Yes. And he says that. So everybody perks up. Everybody goes oh boy. We've got to we've got to make some accommodations here. And that's just going to benefit American long run. So just trust it. Just trust it. What these foreign entities are doing is standing. They're going well, we spent the last four years person Joe Biden around getting whatever we wanted.

Oh. We're going to have to rethink this because it looks like Trump's going to win this election. He's already got him rethinking it. He's not even the president yet. And he's already got them rethinking what they're doing. Yeah, you have to remember that America, per capita, is one of the most prosperous nations in the world. It may be the most, people want to do, but this is a massive market for countries all over the world.

It is. They want to do business here. And so Trump's going to get as many concessions as possible in order for, for them to do business here. So yeah, I mean, you know what else amazes me? We have four years, three of which three of the three non-COVID years that we had with Trump. We had a stellar economy because of his policies.

But yet they think they can armchair quarterback what Trump ought to be doing. No, he's already proven himself. And we've had almost four years now of an of a very lackluster economy. It hasn't been great. It's been it's been written with inflation. It's got issues with debt and interest rates and and people think that it's Trump that's going to make things worse.

It's just crazy. It's so crazy. You had me thinking with this Mark Cuban clip. Do you have the one where, in his rally, Governor Walz is dressed like Elmer Fudd again. I don't know what's going on. He's in a flannel. It's so weird. It's like he's cosplaying. Whatever. But he he's he's saying that he doesn't know what a venture capitalist is.

Do you have that one? I do have that. Here it is. Okay. Yeah. Senator Vance, he became a media darling. He wrote a book about the place he grew up. But the premise was, was trashing that place where he grew up rather than lifting it up. This guy's a venture capitalist cosplaying, like he's a cowboy or something. I don't even know what a venture capitalist does most of the time.

Okay, I sure as heck would rather have Donald Trump, who has an incredibly strong alliance with the richest man in the world, Elon Musk, or right up there in the top ten versus a vice presidential candidate who's sitting there saying, I don't even know what a venture capitalist does most of the time. Yeah, well, then you don't understand business.

And I don't want you anywhere near taxpayer dollars. Exactly. I think it was sort of him trying to connect with the common person who may not always know what a capital venture capitalist does. We don't want you to be a you're going to be the vice president of the United. You're gonna be a heartbeat away from the presidency if you wait.

I don't care if my plumber doesn't know what a venture capitalist us, I don't care. You don't care that the vice president knows what a venture capitalist does. 100% agree. 921 A new stock. 107 nine. Quick break. We'll come back.

Okay. Turn this bumper music. Did you get that text? Sorry. Just reading a text that somebody has with, John Weber. Oh, sure. I feel held over a barrel. I kind of do. All right. Yeah. Okay. I can't think about that right now. Anyway, somebody sent us a text, Bob, that they a text feed that they have with, John Weber, and he is asking him, could you tell me where you, Brett and Doug.

Rex. So Brett Ray bold and Doug Rex stand on prop one. John Weber responded and said, good to hear from you. I can't speak for Doug or Brett for myself. I'd like to see open primaries, but not a fan of ranked choice voting. It'll be interesting to see what the people in Idaho say. The person responded with, well, are you voting for it?

And John Weber did not respond. How long ago? Well, I, I can't tell that because I don't know. When he took the screenshot, it says today 9:03 a.m., but he might have taken that screenshot days ago, so I don't have that answer. Okay. If it's in the last day or two, I'm not getting to worry worked up.

But I do. I would like an answer. I can text him back. Okay, I bet it was today because we were talking about that. We could be it could be today. So if that's the case, he gets lots of room because he could be in the middle of something. Okay. Well, somebody out of a minute. Ten. Did you hear the good news?

But good news that Tostitos and Ruffles basically frito-lay's. So Doritos, Frito-Lay's, ruffles, Tostitos, they're going to start putting more chips in their bag because people have been complaining about shrinkflation and they want to give back. So I don't know if more chips means two more chips, but and not raise the price and not raise the price. They said yeah.

So we'll see. We'll see if you notice a difference soon. Five I'm a fan of chips. Sign me up. Yeah. Give me all the Tostitos. All the Doritos.

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She beat Trump so bad that he's scared to death to beat her again. He had a rough day yesterday. Yes. Yeah. This I don't even know. It wasn't a rally. He was in front of a group of people or something. For Kamala, it was a tough day for him. Let me play it one more time. It's so good.

She beat Trump so badly in the debate. He's scared to death to beat her again. He's scared to death to beat her again. Yeah, he's scared to death. It's like, my co-host. I have my co-host right where she wants me. Remind me that clip or that that little, you know, thing.

Those are the things that are actually kind of endearing. Like, it's sort of. It's funny, you know, and dementia is not a laughing matter, but there are these little comedic moments that can happen. There are I all it all this does is when you put him out there, Kamala, when you invite him to go stump for you.

Yeah. It all it does is raise questions for people. Why haven't you 25th amendment amendments in the sky yet? Why hasn't that happened? And then how dare you question Trump? So now it's senility. If this is what's going on with the guy you have stumping for you, you left in office. That's true. That's a really good point. Like if you're using this guy to campaign for you, keep your mouth shut about Trump.

And it's a distinct yes. Yeah yeah. Crazy. All right. Trump is doing the let's let's listen in to at least a little bit of this. This is with Harris Faulkner on Fox. America is a land of opportunity. And it's policy welcomed immigrants legally. How different is your policy versus Harris when it come to securing our borders and only accepting people to us without causing any issue to our country?

Yeah. On the borders. Well, and people coming legally. Yeah. We want to have as many people come in as possible, but they have to come in legally. We don't want murderers. We don't want drug dealers, we don't want, human traffickers. We don't want people from prison that are being let out after murdering somebody. We don't want to have that.

We want to have great people come in. And that's the sad thing. So many people work to come in our country. They've worked for ten years getting ready, and then millions of people pour through the southern border. They fly them over in airplanes. Nobody knew that until about nine months ago. They were talking about the border and like they're trying and all this, look, he's the worst president in history, and she's the worst vice president.

She's worse than him, which is worse than her. And she was made the borders. And she's destroying our country. I don't want to use the word destroyed, because that makes it sound like it can't come back, but it's it's awfully close. She is the worst. He made her borders are. She never even went there. The border patrol yesterday, two days ago, thousands of them.

The whole thing. 100% unanimous. Every single person, thousands of them. They endorsed me. And they work for her. They're not even sure if they're allowed to do what they said. We don't care. She's so bad. We don't care. Do whatever you want to do. We have to have borders. If we don't have borders. But we also want to have people come in.

You know, we actually need people we sort of like. All right. So, Trump answer and answering the questions. They love him. Yeah. And this is an audience of women. Yes. Yeah. I, I'm sure there's going to be some tough questions on abortion, things like that. But I think it's also fair to ask questions about the border.

I if I had a daughter attending college somewhere in a sanctuary city, you better believe I'd be nervous. I was super scared. Yeah, and that's just that's not me being racist. That's not anyone being racist. I would be nervous about it. I was nervous for sending my girls to college for lots of reasons. Yeah, that would just be one of them.

I and I expect my government to help protect me from violent criminals. Yeah, or at least have basic policies in place that prevent it. Yeah, it just is. It's a mess. But, Yeah, I feel really good right now. I almost feel like Trump has gotten ahead of of Harris the last 2 to 3 weeks. And I don't know if she can catch up.

Like I think he's rolling. He's and making big gains. And if we have any integrity in our election at all, I'm not sure there's anything that she could do to catch up to him at this point. So it's a big day for her. She's with Brett Bear this afternoon. Yeah. He did come out on his feet and clarify.

They will not edit the interview. It is pre-taped, but they will not edit the interview. So why not release the transcript? I don't know, I know, and maybe we will see the transcript, but that's what I saw on his ex feed and it's recorded. Right. So we'll see. We'll see how it goes okay. We'll see what it looks like.

But it is a big day for her. She's in talks with Joe Rogan. She might go on his podcast. That man will eat her lunch I don't even yeah. I can't believe that she's willing to go and do that. That should tell you how bad she's doing with the male demographic. I think she's desperate at this point. I think she'll do anything that she can to try and salvage her chances, but I think the the, the risk reward in that scenario, especially with Rogan, is horrifically bad for her.

That's the whole reason to go on. Charlamagne the God yesterday was simply because she's trying to get back some of that black male vote. She also put out the policies that talk about, you know, a business loan for black males legalizing marijuana. Why is that just the most bizarre combination of policies there? I need the black vote.

And so for black men, I'm going to do a couple of things. I'm going to give you a free business loan. Oh, and by the way, I'm also going to legalize marijuana. Oh, who are you? Santa Claus. What are you doing? Yeah. Yeah they are. She is so desperate right now. I think she's just in that mode of tossing out promises that she knows she can't.

She can't deliver on em. And when she can't deliver on, she'll find a reason why. It's the Republicans that got away. Yeah. Here's President Trump. He was asked at the Bloomberg economic Forum about Jerome Powell and the fed chair, and he had a sort of a vintage Trump answer. You've gone backwards and forwards about it. Depends on who you want, whether you want to keep Jerome Powell as chair of the Federal Reserve, his term as chair runs on to May 2026.

Would you seek to remove remove or to meet him? Look, I think it's the greatest job in government. You show up to the office once a month and you say, let's say flip a coin, and everybody talks about you like you're a god. Oh, what will he do? I mean, before the guy used to walk into my office, he was like, begging for shoes and he was fine.

So you did. You did talk about him. You talked about removing him once. I did, because he was keeping the rich who I am, and I was right. And you would do that again? In fact, he actually dropped them too much when I did this because I said I was threatening to terminate him. There was a question as to whether or not you could, and there was an article in the New York Times, two half pages, one page, that I can do it by lawyers, one half page that I couldn't.

And that was enough for him. And he dropped the hell out of the race. He dropped them too much. He went, so I was he dropped them actually. Too much. Okay, here's the story. I think that if you are a very good president with good sense, you should be able to at least talk to him. I don't say make the decision at all, but, I mean, I've been a very successful businessman.

I've done really good, much better. Now people are understanding how good I am because they're seeing it real much better than the fake news wants to give me credit. But good answer. Yeah, audience liked it and we'll be back. 936 on Newstalk 179, the fall River propane call and text line is (208) 542-1079. Okay. Boy, the texting has been kind of nuts today.

Yeah. You know, we've done good radio. Yeah. When we've heard from almost every one of our trolls. That is, that is that is a, that's a sign that we did our job today. That is so true. Yeah. Take that. Trolls. I'm so worked up. I have to send a text to them. That means I hit your nerve. Yeah, I saw the ones where your favorite convicted felon will protect you from the felons.

Like, I I'm not sure this man understands about protecting people, which probably speaks far more about him being a beta male than about me wanting my government to provide strong borders. Yeah. You know, I would I would hope that men, the kind of men who have strong values, would want to protect the citizens of America. Yeah, that's what I would think.

So darn it, I hope I instilled that in my son. Speaking of beta males, the story about Doug Emhoff when Kamala was getting the nominee to play that. Yeah, we do. We need to play that because he is such a bad Amal. Oh, he totally is. Can you? She asks him, what the f are you doing and get busy matching?

No, no, she's clearly in charge in that relationship. Yeah. No. And he, he tells the conversation like he's proud of it. Yeah. That's weird. Like, she bosses me around and I'm proud. Do you see how good she is? She bosses me around. Yeah. Okay. Well, there's a reason she's losing with the men. You guys just keep highlighting it.

Go ahead. Keep highlighting it. Doug. Yeah, that's that's a really good point. That's a good point. It shows the way she at least tries to treat the men around her. So how's everyone by the way if I don't bring up Friday the sign giveaway just interrupt me because you know I got you brain goes sometimes. So I got you actually on it today.

They'll really clear minded today. Good show. Good I'm there for you. Not so much last week. Yeah. One thing Covid has taught me first. For sure, for sure, for sure, for sure. I've done enough reading about inflammation. That inflammation is not just in your joints, it's in your brain, too. And when my joints inflame, my brain does not work near as well.

Yeah, she wasn't having a good week last week. I did not feel well again last week and but the upside is, as I'm figuring out the signs as they're coming and I think I'm attacking it better. So yeah, that's you learn learn how to listen to your body. So it's good. I learned I saw this little detail.

You probably already saw this, Julie, but that picture that they sent the the corner that has a vote no. And a vote yes sign in it. It says stretch of lawn that has a vote. Now in a vote yes, if you look down, 107.9 is on the radio. So.

What was that? That was me. Screenshotting. I had no idea it made that noise. Chuck Berlin it's like magic shutter. And that actually went all over the air. So. Chick, chick. Blink. Yes. Okay. I gotta find that. Okay, here it is. I just sent back to our felon troll. Living in your head is so cozy. Thanks for reserving so much space for me.

Yes. It says it's still uploading, but I don't know if that's true. What is still uploading? The. I screenshotted just the 179. I'm sending it back saying this is the most important part of your picture.

I don't know if it wants to send it. Okay. Did the Jackson fire get taken care of? Because we have so less, so much less smoke. Yeah, well, in the air last night when I went out and saw the comet. Yeah, there was, there was a little haze low. But it was, it was, it was okay. Good viewing conditions.

I mean the hope there is I'm glad you got to see the comet better, but the hope there is is that fire is actually. Yeah. Controlled. But yeah, I'm just saying that it looks like there's smoke that's lessened. That's good. Yeah. Apparently that comet is going to be visible for like ten more days. So it's kind of fun.

Okay, CNN running a headline, right. Oh. We're on. Hold on. I'll give it to you in a minute. 944 on Newstalk 179, Neal Larson and Julie Mason on this Wednesday. And Julie, you were about to tell me about a CNN headline. Yeah, they're running a headline right now that says Trump again refers to fellow Americans as the enemy within their drawing from what he said about immigration in the Fox Town Hall.

This is the stupidest headline. I can't stand it. I just cannot stand that the the outright lies that you have to tell to justify rapists and murderers. Okay. CNN which fellow Americans. Because quite frankly, Charles Manson's a fellow American. Yeah. Yep. And he's an enemy. Jeff Dahmer was a fellow American. Yeah. Lots of convicted murderers, which you could probably name.

And I couldn't because of what you do. Our fellow Americans. So CNN what that you mean like I they are they're terrible. They're terrible. Don't trust them. Yeah, yeah. But it's okay for Democrat lawmakers to to refer to Trump as somebody who needs to be exterminated. Yeah, they don't cover that. But if Trump refers to people acting illegally as the enemy within our borders, yeah.

Then that's oh, you've gone too far, buddy. You have gone too far. Yeah, well, I just there are some quoting. Okay. The thing is, the whole term fellow Americans is not an official term. Like that's a, it's a warm reference to other Americans that you like, like you're my fellow Americans. So they use that but they're nonspecific.

They're terror. They're just terrible Julie. They're just terrible. Look I, I'm going to do something very non-life threatening. Nancy Pelosi has made millions and millions of dollars in 2024 alone on stock trading. Yeah. Just in this year. When she can do that and get away with it I consider her an enemy within the border. Yeah. There's no there's no physical fear there.

But she is messing around in, in, in policymaking that enables her to make lots of money. And I consider that enemy territory. So wait you can't take a phrase like that and act like he wants to kill people. It just doesn't work. You remember back a couple of years ago when I think it was the Department of Justice said, the biggest terrorist threat we have, our white supremacists.

Yeah, those are fellow Americans, right? There you go. They the DOJ called fellow Americans terrorists. Yep. There's a lot of enemy activity that I can still go, but I share the border with you. But I'm going to call it out for enemy activity. I you know, I'm a little disappointed. I don't know if I'm disappointed or not. CNN is what it is.

For a while, though, they were like doing okay. Like I think Jake Tapper and Dana Dana Bash handled the the presidential debate fairly well. They've been going after not going after Kamala, but telling the truth about Kamala in the polling. And but then you see a headline like that and you go, oh yep, there's still CNN. Yep. There they go.

They're at it again. Still the same old, same old. Yeah. All right. 947 (208) 542-1079 is the number. Guess what? Oh yes. See, I, I had to do this. I told Julie during the break I'm like, if I ever get to talk about Friday just interrupt me. And I just did. So I waved at him. And now let's talk about what's happening on Friday.

All right. If you haven't heard, we, confirmed yesterday Julie and I are going to join. We know representative Hart is there. We know that Wendy Harman's going to be there. We know that a whole bunch of our listeners are going to be there, thanks to, local county or. Excuse me, County Republican officials, there are hundreds of Vote No signs now available.

And the Friday afternoon will be a distribution of those signs. We just want you to come. It'll be kind of a rally. We'll have some music, I'm sure. The representatives will speak, you and I, I'll probably say a few words. Nothing crazy. But we'd love to have you there. Pick up some signs and get those posted.

Okay. 1 to 230 Friday afternoon. It is at the corner of Woodruff and first Street in Idaho Falls. It's the Wealth of Health parking lot. If you're familiar with that area, we're going to be set up just south of Wealth of Health. So kind of if you're if you're familiar, the Woodruff is going to run north to south.

We're going to be on the Woodruff side south of Wealth of Health. Yes. Yeah. So, come join. You don't have to be there for the whole 90 minutes if you can just pop up and grab a sign, I don't. Are we going to limit the number of signs people can take? Well, now that we have so many, I mean, we're probably going to ask you.

Yeah, you know, what you're doing and who are you giving them to? Like, we had people that could give us clear names. Oh, you know, your listener, so-and-so. I need to get an extra sign for them. Yeah. So, yeah, be prepared for probably those questions because we're not just going to hand out endless amounts. Yeah. That that's that's true.

Okay. So we'll see you there. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and, we'll have our final segment when we return. If you'd like to be on the program with us. (208) 542-1079 okay. Man, I did not hear this clip. Somebody said that Kamala, it's got to be old. It's got to be old. Yeah.

The Kamala called 18 to 24 year olds. Dumb. Just plain dumb. Do you remember her doing that? Yes, I have a vague memory of that. Yes. Okay. Robert said he drove from Riverton, Wyoming on Friday and the fire by Dubois, Wyoming was smoldering and smoky help smoldering means they almost had it out. Yeah okay.

Paula said it said it's new. She said she said that's why we make them live in dormitories. Because they're dumb. Just plain dumb, And I'm surprised I did not see that anywhere. Oh, it's a 2014 video. Yeah, it's a 2014 video. Okay, I don't care. I mean, because in the context. What what is your phrase, all 17 year old girl?

Oh, yeah. I totally believe all 17 year old girls are crazy and all 17 year old boys are stupid. Yeah, their their brains aren't developed yet. Right? Okay, I'll answer that guy who's asking about Friday's event. Oh, okay. Okay. That one, that they sent out with the picture of the local lawmaker, That's horrible. Yeah, that is, you know that person, right?

The one who sent it that. No, do I do I know, I, I just know she's super active in the the rebuilding of the downtown area. Okay. Which if that's what your thing is, that's a dumb move because I don't know much about her other than that, that she's pushed that a ton. I do, I'm not in my face.

But but I do think we're friends. Really? I'll look it up. Give me just a second. That's too bad. 955 on Newstalk 1079 it's Neal, our salon with Julie Mason. Let's listen in one more time. Trump is speaking on the forum with women on Harris. Forget that you're here. We're all very blessed to be here with you.

And thank you for taking your questions. So I'm the mother of three small children, and I have many friends that have struggled with fertility issues over the years while trying to grow their families. And while they're pro-life, they're very concerned that the abortion bans will affect their ability to access IVF and other fertility treatments. So although abortion does lie with the states, what is your stance on that and what would you say to those women?

So I got a call from Katie Britt, a young, just a fantastically attractive person from Alabama. She's a senator, and she called me up like emergency emergency because an Alabama judge had ruled that the IVF clinics were illegal and they have to be closed down. A judge ruled. And she said, friends of mine came up to me and they were, oh, they were so angry.

I didn't even know they were going, you know, they were. It's fertilization and I didn't know they were even involved. And nobody talks about they don't talk about it. But now that they can't do it, she said, I was attacked in a certain way. I was attacked and I said, explain. Obviously very IVF very quickly and within about two minutes I understood it.

I said, no, no, we're totally in favor of IVF. I came out with a statement within the hour, a really powerful statement with some experts, really powerful. And we we went totally in favor of the Republican Party, the whole party, Alabama legislature a day later overturned, meaning approved. It overturned. The judge essentially approved it. And we really are the party for IVF.

We won fertilization and it's all the way. And the Democrats tried to attack us on it, and we're out there on IVF even more than them. So we're totally in favor of it. Okay, that's an interesting I understand the pro-life concern with IVF. I do not think that's a hill they should die on. No, I don't think it's a hill we should die on ever.

As Republicans and the I if I remember correctly, the genesis of all of this was project 2025 because in that massive document, 900 plus pages, there's a portion that addresses the fears of of IVF with the pro-life crowd. Yeah. And they have they tried to seize on it and capture the women's vote. This is the answer that needs to be given.

Well. And when you look at it, the overall effort of IVF is is very pro-life. And so couples can have children. Yeah. So yeah it's that's a good answer by Trump too I think it, it puts that to bed into rest. So. Oh wait I don't need to start the music quite yet. We have another minute to go okay.

What's happening Friday. What is happening Friday? Well lots happening Friday, but we are going to be at Wealth of Health in the parking lot at the corner of Woodruff and First Street and just south of be right in front. So that area between, Wealth of Health and Subway will be there. We're going to have a sound system.

We're going to have representatives Barbie Hart, Wendy Harman, maybe others. They've been invited. And, we're going to have the most important thing is hundreds of signs that we will be passing out to people who will show up. It can be a drive through if you want, if you can't get out and you just need to grab a couple signs, that's not a problem.

But we'll be there from one until 230. Did I do okay? Perfect. Yeah. Join us. Please. We want to generate an exciting atmosphere. We want to make sure that, your voices are heard. We encourage you to either put the sign in your yard or, even better, in the back window of your car or the side window of your car.

Make it a mobile declaration that you do not want to blow up the election system in Idaho. Yes. So we'll see you there. Please put that on your calendar. We would love to to hook up with you on Friday afternoon. And, we do have enough time to get into a couple of other issues here, but we will tomorrow, and we'll talk to you tomorrow.

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